April 4, 1968

[jhale667]

Originally posted by sadaist
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Having any type of organization or group that is based on color is racism. So if it's to get any better, these have to go. Or is it the "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality?

I disagree. Your throwing out platitudes doesn't change the fact that they exist to combat racism, not continue it.

[FORD]

sadist doesn't understand what racism actually is. It isn't just merely defining someone by the color of their skin.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by FORD
sadist doesn't understand what racism actually is. It isn't just merely defining someone by the color of their skin.

Exactly, exactly.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by sadaist
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Having any type of organization or group that is based on color is racism. So if it's to get any better, these have to go. Or is it the "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality?

These organizations exist largely BECAUSE of the exclusion African Americans faced when they tried to come into the middle class.

These organizations were founded simply because every other organization were white by default, and discriminated!

Jesus, is it that difficult to figure out that everything ISN'T equal? Everything isn't the same...

[jhale667]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh


Jesus, is it that difficult to figure out that everything ISN'T equal? Everything isn't the same...

Some people prefer to remain in denial.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh

Jesus, is it that difficult to figure out that everything ISN'T equal? Everything isn't the same...

And it never will be as long as organizations remain that cater to a specific color of person...and discriminate against any others.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
These organizations exist largely BECAUSE of the exclusion African Americans faced when they tried to come into the middle class.

These organizations were founded simply because every other organization were white by default, and discriminated!

Your key words here "when" and "were", are both past tense. Sure, discrimination is still happening, but not nearly the magnitude you are speaking of. The only way to end discrimination is to end ALL discrimination.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by jhale667
they exist to combat racism, not continue it.

Fight fire with fire?

[jhale667]

Originally posted by sadaist
Your key words here "when" and "were", are both past tense. Sure, discrimination is still happening, but not nearly the magnitude you are speaking of.

And you would know this how...?

The only way to end discrimination is to end ALL discrimination.

Agreed.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by sadaist
And it never will be as long as organizations remain that cater to a specific color of person...and discriminate against any others.

Blaming blacks for racism now? It's all their fault?

What complete bullshit! Theses organizations is a reminder that the black community still has a way to go in order to establish a stable socioeconomic class in this country.

Your points are pretty much arguments used by white supremacists in order to mask the justification of their dominant culture terrorist and hate groups, so they can pretend the dominant culture is "under attack and will be destroyed" or some shit like that...

Give me a fucking break dude, try taking a college course or two, and pull away the conservative "blaming the victim" mentality used as propaganda...

BTW, the NAACP has fought on the side of poor white people on numerous occasions.

[Sweet Irony]

Originally posted by sadaist
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Having any type of organization or group that is based on color is racism. So if it's to get any better, these have to go. Or is it the "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality?

This thought process goes back 30-40 years,,,,,,,,,,

What King said in '68 was right...yet, he could never have imagined what would be happening in the 21st century........Never....

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by sadaist
Fight fire with fire?

Fighting poverty, ignorance, and stereotypes is "fighting fire with fire?"


What, did you want to be part of the NAACP or something?

Dude, grow the fuck up...

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I don't think he can be characterized as a "socialist."

In fact, he and most of the band, lost there ass in German investments after "The Joshua Tree." And also a tour that was so enormously expensive to put on (ZooTV), they lost money on many shows and made only a small profit overall...

They've had to work hard to recoup...

Fortunately they've managed it by tax avoidance and promoting their music through huge 'charity events'.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Fighting poverty, ignorance, and stereotypes is "fighting fire with fire?"


What, did you want to be part of the NAACP or something?

Dude, grow the fuck up...

Fighting discrimination by having an organization that discriminates is.

Dude, wise the fuck up...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Fortunately they've managed it by tax avoidance and promoting their music through huge 'charity events'.

And don't forget changing their citizenship to avoid Irish taxes...