Holy Fuck!! Cheney says BCE will try to nullify 22nd Ammendment!!!

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59558

    Holy Fuck!! Cheney says BCE will try to nullify 22nd Ammendment!!!

    Cheney: Bush Administration May Challenge 22nd Amendment in 2008 Election.

    JACKSONVILLE, North Carolina. — Vice President Cheney delivered a speech early Sunday morning before a formation of soldiers at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. The speech was not publicized and the prepared remarks were intended to boost troop morale. The comments were fairly unremarkable except for one short comment near the end of the speech in which Mr. Cheney suggested that the Bush Administration may seek to challenge the 22nd amendment in the 2008 presidential election in an effort to ensure that the war in Iraq is successful.

    Mr. Cheney again cited the war in Iraq as a key component in the effort to combat terrorism, saying "The war in Iraq is such a crucial part of the greater war on terror that we currently have our legal advisors looking into the possibility that the 22nd Amendment may not apply in 2008."

    Because the speech was not publicized and was held on a secure military base, very few journalists were present, and none were able to ask questions about what the Vice President's comments might mean. Repeated efforts to contact the Vice President's Office to clarify the comment were unsuccessful.

    The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution prohibits U.S. Presidents from running for a third term, stating "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice...". The 22nd Amendment was passed in 1951 after President Franklin Roosevelt broke a tradition that dated back to George Washington, in which Presidents voluntarily refused to run for a third term.

    Political pundits and Constitutional experts are split on what the Vice President's comments could mean. Some see the comments as an effort to extend the Administration's "war powers" due to the fact that the country is at war. They argue that there is a tenuous case to be made that the 22nd Amendment doesn't apply during war time since the Congress waited until after WW II to introduce such an Amendment. Others say that the mere fact that the country had just ended the war in 1951, when the Amendment was passed, suggests that the Congress would have put such an exception into the language of the Amendment if they had intended it not apply during times of war.

    Others say that the Bush Administration will argue that the 2000 race was not actually decided by an election and that the Bush administration has technically only been "elected" once since the Supreme Court's Decision in Bush v. Gore effectively nullified the popular vote. Anonymous sources inside the White House have corroborated that this may indeed be the Administration's plan.

    Arguing that it was not actually elected would be a very interesting approach for the administration to say the least, but most experts agree that it is certainly possible given the Bush administration's history of creative interpretation of the law with regard to such cases as:
    # the assertion that The Geneva Conventions do not apply to U.S. detainees captured on the battlefield,
    # suggestions that the legal definition of "torture" only includes activities that cause death or organ failure,
    # the argument that U.S. Citizens do not have a right to "due process" if declared "enemy combatants", which was recently rejected by the Supreme Court,
    # Attorney General Albert Gonzales's testimony before Congress that the Constitution doesn't guarantee U.S. Citizens a right to Habeas Corpus,
    # The Administration's claim that the FISA law does not apply to their warrantless wire taps of Americans.

    Critics of the Administration argue that these cases are all the proof needed to believe that The Bush Administration would try to argue that its own victory in 2000 demonstrates that it could run for a third term in 2008.


    Is CHIMPEACHMENT back on the fucking table yet???


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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49563

    #2
    You really think Bushleague wants a third term, Ford?

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59558

      #3
      Why would Dickless say such a thing if they didn't?

      And yes I do think so. They haven't implemented the entire PNAC agenda yet.
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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49563

        #4
        Yeah, far be it from Cheney to make delusional, retarded statements completely disconnected from reality in the face of irony::D

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59558

          #5
          But you must remember that reality isn't even a barrier to the neocons.....

          Bush himself, on more than one occasion, has told reporters he does not read their work and prefers to live inside the information bubble blown by his loyal minions. Vice President Cheney feels free to kick the New York Times off his press plane, and John Ashcroft can refuse to speak with any print reporters during his Patriot-Act-a-palooza publicity tour, just to compliant local TV. As an unnamed Bush official told reporter Ron Suskind, "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality--judiciously, as you will--we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." For those who didn't like it, another Bush adviser explained, "Let me clue you in. We don't care. You see, you're outnumbered two to one by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don't read the New York Times or Washington Post or the LA Times."

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          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • BITEYOASS
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2004
            • 6530

            #6
            I'm surprised Dick didn't quote The Stooges by saying "My idea of fun, is killing everyone."

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            • Guitar Shark
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 7579

              #7
              Re: Holy Fuck!! Cheney says BCE will try to nullify 22nd Ammendment!!!

              Originally posted by FORD
              Link
              Linky no worky...
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              Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
              Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59558

                #8
                Shit.... don't know what happenned there, but it was the New York Times, not "Conspiracy Web Digest" or whatever.
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                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Little Texan
                  Full Member Status

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4579

                  #9
                  Even if they were somehow able to succeed in getting that ammendment repealed, and able to run for a third term, are they delusional enough to think they would actually be re-re-elected, once again, after all that has went down the past few years, and with Bush's approval rating what it is right now? No way in HELL is that going to happen! They would have to rig an awful lot of Diebold voting machines...

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59558

                    #10
                    They weren't elected the first 2 times and that didn't stop them.

                    I don't buy it anyway. I don't believe this sickening motherfucker got 50% of the vote in 2004, and I don't believe his approval rating was EVER over 30%, except for maybe a week after 9-11-01 where a bunch of freaked out people were ready to rally around anyone, even a moron.

                    We know the elections are corrupt. We have just been led to believe it's "minimal".

                    And who knows HOW they come up with these poll numbers.

                    Bottom line is, I simply have not seen anything (other than posts on the Internet) that ever made a case for Chimpy having half the country (or more) behind him.
                    Last edited by FORD; 04-05-2007, 08:15 PM.
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                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • EAT MY ASSHOLE
                      Veteran
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1887

                      #11
                      It'll never happen. not with their approval numbers and with nancy pelosi watching over them.

                      then again, if an attack occurred again on american soil, who knows how the country would swing?
                      RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49563

                        #12
                        Time to call Waxman!

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                        • Steve Savicki
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3937

                          #13
                          senility & craziness combined!
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                          • Steve Savicki
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3937

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steve Savicki
                            senility & craziness combined!
                            By his actions. Since Cheney is in control anyways, he should've just run for President himself in '08. In my opinion, he's made a bigger fool of himself suggesting to stay vice for a third term, something that hasn't happened in years.
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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #15
                              You spin quite a yarn ford.
                              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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