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  • Ellyllions
    Veteran
    • Mar 2006
    • 2012

    Iraq looking like I'm right about Iran

    ...So when you begin strategic bomings or maneuvers, what's one of the first things you take out?....



    Suicide truck bomb collapses Baghdad bridge
    10 people reported killed as explosion sends cars crashing into Tigris river

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide truck bomb exploded on a major bridge in Baghdad early Thursday, collapsing the steel structure and sending cars toppling into the Tigris River below, police and witnesses said. At least 10 people were killed.

    Hospital officials said another 26 were injured, and police were trying to rescue as many as 20 people whose cars plummeted off the al-Sarafiya bridge.

    Waves lapped up against twisted girders sinking into the water, as police patrol boats searched for survivors. Scuba divers donned flippers and waded in from the banks of the Tigris, as U.S. helicopters whirred overhead.

    Farhan al-Sudani, a 34-year-old Shiite businessman who lives near the bridge, said the blast woke him at dawn.

    “A huge explosion shook our house and I thought it would demolish our house. Me and my wife jumped immediately from our bed, grabbed our three kids and took them outside,” he said.

    The al-Sarafiya bridge connected two northern Baghdad neighborhoods — Waziriyah, a mostly Sunni enclave, and Utafiyah, a Shiite area.

    Police said the attack was by a suicide truck bomber, but Associated Press Television News footage showed the bridge broken apart in two places — perhaps the result of two blasts.

    'One of Baghdad’s monuments'
    Cement pilings that support the bridge’s steel structure were left crumbling. At the base of one of them laid a charred vehicle engine, believed to be that of the truck bomb.

    “We were astonished more when we saw the extent of damage,” said Ahmed Abdul-Karim, 45, who also lives near the bridge. “I was standing in my garden and I saw the smoke and flying debris.”

    Locals said the al-Sarafiya bridge is believed to be at least 75 years old, built by the British in the early part of the 20th century.

    “It is one of Baghdad’s monuments. This is really damaging for Iraq. We are losing a lot of our history every day,” Abdul-Karim said.



    ...Second incident...



    Blast rocks Iraq parliament; 2 lawmakers killed
    Officials say explosion occurred inside cafeteria as lawmakers ate lunch


    MSNBC News Services
    Updated: 4 minutes ago
    BAGHDAD, Iraq - A bomb rocked Iraq's parliament building in the heavily fortified Green Zone Thursday, killing at least two lawmakers in a stunning security breach in the third month of a U.S.-Iraqi crackdown on violence in the capital, officials said.

    At least four other people were wounded in the blast, which shook a cafeteria while several lawmakers were eating lunch, initial media reports said.

    Mohammed Awad, a member of the Sunni National Dialogue Front, was killed in the blast, said Saleh al-Mutlaq, the leader of the party, which holds 11 seats in Iraq's legislature. Another female Sunni lawmaker from the same list was wounded, he said.

    A security official at the parliament building said a second lawmaker, a Shiite member, also was killed. He spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

    "We heard a huge explosion inside the restaurant. We went to see what was going on. We saw lots of smoke coming from the hall, with people lying on the ground and pools of blood," a parliamentary official told Reuters by telephone from the scene.

    Precautions had been in place
    Apparently concerned that an attack might take place, security officials at the parliament were using sniffer dogs earlier Thursday as people entered the building — a rare precaution.

    A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, which is also in the Green Zone, said no Americans were injured in the blast.

    "We are aware of reports of an explosion in the Green Zone. We are investigating the nature and source of the explosion," spokesman Lou Fintor said. "No Embassy employees or U.S. citizens were affected."

    One of Iraq's vice presidents survived a bomb attack at a government ministry outside the Green Zone in February. A deputy prime minister was wounded last month in a suicide bomb attack at a prayer hall in his compound in the capital.

    At least one bomb collapses bridge
    Thursday's attack came hours after a suicide truck bomb exploded on a major bridge in Baghdad, collapsing the steel structure and sending cars tumbling into the Tigris River below, police and witnesses said. At least 10 people were killed.

    Hospital officials said another 26 were injured, and police were trying to rescue as many as 20 people whose cars plummeted off the al-Sarafiya bridge.

    Waves lapped against twisted girders, as patrol boats searched for survivors while U.S. helicopters whirred overhead. Scuba divers donned flippers and waded in from the riverbanks.

    Farhan al-Sudani, a 34-year-old Shiite businessman who lives near the bridge, said the blast woke him at dawn.

    "A huge explosion shook our house and I thought it would demolish our house. Me and my wife jumped immediately from our bed, grabbed our three kids and took them outside," he said.

    The al-Sarafiya bridge connected two northern Baghdad neighborhoods — Waziriyah, a mostly Sunni enclave, and Utafiyah, a Shiite area.

    Police blamed the attack on a suicide truck bomber, but Associated Press Television News footage showed the bridge broken apart in two places — perhaps the result of two blasts.

    Cement pilings that support the steel structure were left crumbling. At the base of one lay a charred vehicle engine, believed to be that of the truck bomb.

    "We were astonished more when we saw the extent of damage," said Ahmed Abdul-Karim, 45, who also lives near the bridge. "I was standing in my garden and I saw the smoke and flying debris."

    ‘This is really damaging for Iraq’
    Locals said the al-Sarafiya bridge is believed to be at least 75 years old, built by the British in the early part of the 20th century.

    "It is one of Baghdad's monuments. This is really damaging for Iraq. We are losing a lot of our history every day," Abdul-Karim said.

    The al-Sarafiya bridge has a duplicate in Fallujah that was built later and made infamous in March 2004, when angry mobs hung the charred bodies of U.S. contractors from the bridge's girders.

    "This bridge is linked to Baghdad's modern history — it is one of our famous monuments," said Haider Ghazala, a 52-year-old Iraqi architect.

    "Attacking this bridge affects the morale of Iraqis and especially Baghdad residents who feel proud of this bridge. They (insurgents) want to demolish everything that connects the people with this land," he said.

    Before the al-Sarafiyah bridge was destroyed, nine spans across the Tigris linked western and eastern Baghdad.

    Line of division
    The river now serves as a de facto dividing line between the mostly Shiite east and the largely Sunni west of the city, a reality of more than a year of sectarian fighting that has forced Sunnis to flee neighborhoods where they were a minority and likewise for Shiites.

    Baghdad's neighborhoods had been very mixed before the war but hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced since then as militants from both Muslim sects have sought to cleanse their neighborhoods of rivals.

    There have been unconfirmed reports for months that Sunni insurgents and al-Qaida in Iraq were planning a campaign to blow up the city's bridges. U.S. military headquarters near the Baghdad airport and the Green Zone, site of the U.S. Embassy and Iraqi parliament and government, are both on the west side of the river.

    Also Thursday, the U.S. military said its troops killed two suspected insurgents and captured 17 in raids across the country.

    Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
    "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2


    Iraqi river police on patrol the area where a truck suicide bomb exploded in the middle of the al-Sarafiyah Bridge in Baghdad on Thursday.



    BAGHDAD, IRAQ APRIL 12:- Iraqi rescue workers search for victims in the river Tigris at the destroyed al-Sarafiya bridge after a suicide bomb attack, on April 12, 2007 in Baghdad, Iraq. A suicide truck bomb exploded on the busy bridge, killing at least 10 people, cutting the bridge in two. The bridge connects the Sunni Waziriyah and the Shiite Utafiyah neighbourhoods. (Photo by Wathiq Khuzaie/Getty Images).



    Iraqi women use their mobile phones to take photographs of Baghdad's collapsed al-Sarrafiyah bridge where a suicide bomber blew himself up in a truck, 12 April 2007. The bombing damaged the bridge which spanned on the Tigris River and killed eight people, a security official said. The attack happened during the morning rush hour on the Al-Sarafiyah Bridge which connects the Shiite Al-Atafiyah neighbourhood on the western bank of the Tigris, to the Sunni neighbourhood of Waziriyah on the eastern bank. Eight people were killed and 22 wounded in the explosion, the force of which saw the bridge partially collapse, said the security official.
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    • Ellyllions
      Veteran
      • Mar 2006
      • 2012

      #3
      It's fixing to be bad Brian....
      "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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      • Hyman Roth
        Veteran
        • Nov 2006
        • 1817

        #4
        um....with respect, what does this have to do with Iran?

        If the US was going to initiate operations against Iran, it would be much more extensive than blowing up a bridge over the Tigris River.
        Trollidillo-T

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        • Ellyllions
          Veteran
          • Mar 2006
          • 2012

          #5
          I posted a couple of days ago about the upcoming relations between Iraq and Iran.

          To save from the long post again, I'll just say this (and it's completely my opinion) there is more than co-incidence that the Iranians announce they've got "industry-sized" enriched Uranium capabilities one day after monster protests against the US in Iraq, and 3 days before letting the UK 15 go free.

          Iran is losing 5.5 billion dollars a year in it's budget because it's ignoring it's oil production to work on the Nuclear program. If Iran can make friends with the Sunni's in Iraq, they can gain control of the oil in the Southern-most portion of Iraq and that 5.5 billion won't be an issue.

          It's time to bring the troops home cause it's about to get REAL ugly in Iraq. And this time, it's most certainly about economic and military power in the world.
          "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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          • Ellyllions
            Veteran
            • Mar 2006
            • 2012

            #6
            Oh and I'm not saying that the US is beginning military operations against Iran....I'm saying that it's looking like Iran is going to become a real force in Iraq against the US, Shiite, and Kurds. With Israel in the crosshairs.

            Ahmennie is a crazy bastard and I don't mean the slang of the term.
            "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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            • Hyman Roth
              Veteran
              • Nov 2006
              • 1817

              #7
              I see what you are saying now. Sorry - I didn't read your post from the other day.

              Its a huge mess over there. I am against this war and have been from the start but I wonder if there is an argument to be made to keep coalition troops present in Iraq to stuff up the vacuum of power created by the toppling of Saddam? I guess that depends on whether or not you believe that the parties might eventually reach a diplomatic solution - certainly we can't have such a huge presence there forever. Yet history doesn't place much faith in diplomatic solutions in that region.
              Trollidillo-T

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              • ODShowtime
                ROCKSTAR

                • Jun 2004
                • 5812

                #8
                Originally posted by Ellyllions
                It's time to bring the troops home cause it's about to get REAL ugly in Iraq. And this time, it's most certainly about economic and military power in the world.
                That's a very dangerous and ironic statement elly.
                gnaw on it

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                • Ellyllions
                  Veteran
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2012

                  #9
                  Hit me with your best ODShow, maybe you'll feel better.

                  I've been expecting it since when I made my revelation public on here the other day.
                  "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                  • ODShowtime
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Jun 2004
                    • 5812

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ellyllions
                    I've been expecting it since when I made my revelation public on here the other day.
                    What was that? I wasn't paying attention.
                    gnaw on it

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59558

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ellyllions
                      If Iran can make friends with the Sunni's in Iraq, they can gain control of the oil in the Southern-most portion of Iraq and that 5.5 billion won't be an issue.
                      You meant the Shiites in Iraq, right? Iran is a Shiite country, and southern Iraq is also mostly Shia. They aren't going to be friends with the Sunni's, but then the Sunni's probably wouldn't care if they stayed down south. But right now there's a Shia dominated government (which is still basically a BCE client state) in the middle of Sunni territory (Baghdad) and that pisses the Sunni's off.


                      It's time to bring the troops home cause it's about to get REAL ugly in Iraq. And this time, it's most certainly about economic and military power in the world.
                      It always was. But I agree. Iraq no longer exists. Just split it into the three areas that "unofficially" already exist and let them determine their own fate.
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