McCain Backs Gun Rights After Shootings

[Hardrock69]

Gun Control Law Helped Campus Killer
Yet disarmament lobby and establishment media exploit tragedy to disarm more potential victims

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, April 17, 2007


In January 2002, a student at the Virginia Appalachian School of Law, Peter Odighizuwa, shot three people dead before other students were able to retrieve guns from their cars and put an end to the carnage before there was more bloodshed. Over thirty victims at VA Tech yesterday were denied that right as a result of a campus gun control law that helped the shooter pick off his targets at will.

A bill in the Virginia legislature last year that would have allowed students with concealed weapons permits to carry their guns at schools was killed, with VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker heralding the move as action that would "help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." How hollow those words sound now in light of eyewitness reports of how victims had to cower under desks as the killer calmly approached, their only means of defense throwing chairs or risking their lives by escaping out of high-rise windows.

"Isn't it interesting that Utah and Oregon are the only two states that allows faculty to carry guns on campus. And isn't it interesting that you haven't read about any school or university shootings in Utah or Oregon? Why not? Because criminals don't like having their victims shoot back at them," Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt said yesterday. "That's why the American people want an end to this ineffective gun ban."

85% of Americans support the right of a principle or a teacher to have instant access to a safely stored firearm in order to defend the lives of students and prevent a school massacre, but a drive is already underway to disarm more victims and grease the skids for more horrors similar to what unfolded yesterday.

The talking points have already been disseminated and the disarmament lobby and the establishment media is doing it's best to exploit yesterday's tragedy to push for gun control.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/170407helpedkiller.htm

[scamper]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Gun Control Law Helped Campus Killer
Yet disarmament lobby and establishment media exploit tragedy to disarm more potential victims

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, April 17, 2007


In January 2002, a student at the Virginia Appalachian School of Law, Peter Odighizuwa, shot three people dead before other students were able to retrieve guns from their cars and put an end to the carnage before there was more bloodshed. Over thirty victims at VA Tech yesterday were denied that right as a result of a campus gun control law that helped the shooter pick off his targets at will.

A bill in the Virginia legislature last year that would have allowed students with concealed weapons permits to carry their guns at schools was killed, with VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker heralding the move as action that would "help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." How hollow those words sound now in light of eyewitness reports of how victims had to cower under desks as the killer calmly approached, their only means of defense throwing chairs or risking their lives by escaping out of high-rise windows.

"Isn't it interesting that Utah and Oregon are the only two states that allows faculty to carry guns on campus. And isn't it interesting that you haven't read about any school or university shootings in Utah or Oregon? Why not? Because criminals don't like having their victims shoot back at them," Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt said yesterday. "That's why the American people want an end to this ineffective gun ban."

85% of Americans support the right of a principle or a teacher to have instant access to a safely stored firearm in order to defend the lives of students and prevent a school massacre, but a drive is already underway to disarm more victims and grease the skids for more horrors similar to what unfolded yesterday.

The talking points have already been disseminated and the disarmament lobby and the establishment media is doing it's best to exploit yesterday's tragedy to push for gun control.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...lpedkiller.htm

The thing to remember is that this terrorist had a plan long ago. He was going to kill people, if he couldn't get guns he would have found another way. They say he hated white rich people so he was also a racist, which makes it a hate crime.

[FORD]

Hating rich people makes you a racist?

[Ellyllions]

The misconception is that if you're deemed "mentally ill", you can't legally own or obtain a firearm. That's incorrect by all accounts. There is ZERO communication between the Criminal registry databases, and the mental health facilities unless a crime has been committed and documented to be caused by a mental illness.

That being said, is this the final straw for that divide to be guaged and begin some kind of restrictions on the sale of firearms to people who are seeking treatment for mental illness or just mental distress cases? If so, how will that affect the doctor/patient privilege and right to privacy laws?

It's a big question. But what we're hearing cosistently in these shooting cases is how "distraught" or "weird" the shooter was before killing himself/herself and others. If we can't determine which patients will ultimately take the action, should we begin to try to determine which patients could be a danger to society and keep them from obtaining the means with which to be dangerous?

If you buy or sell a gun to/from a shop, a copy of that receipt that you get is also going to the local law enforcement office. A trace is done on the gun, and you to check for priors as well as whether or not the gun is stolen. That print out is then filed and kept with the receipt. (I know, this was one of my many jobs)

When Cho purchased either of those guns, had there been some communication between law enforcement and St. Albans or Access, law enforcement who did the background from the receipt of sale would've known the nature of his trips to mental health facilities.

In my opinion, we're being too short sighted in trying to blame this on gun control laws. A mentally ill person will carry out their plans however they can. And it doesn't matter if it's legal or not.

[scamper]

Originally posted by FORD
Hating rich people makes you a racist?

Rich white people. Hating rich people only makes you a socialist.

[scamper]

Just kidding

[FORD]

Originally posted by scamper
Rich white people. Hating rich people only makes you a socialist.

What if you only hate USELESS rich people who did nothing to earn their money, like Chimpy or Paris Hilton?

[scamper]

Originally posted by FORD
What if you only hate USELESS rich people who did nothing to earn their money, like Chimpy or Paris Hilton?

Then you're a victim of normality.(

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Gun Control Law Helped Campus Killer
Yet disarmament lobby and establishment media exploit tragedy to disarm more potential victims

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, April 17, 2007


In January 2002, a student at the Virginia Appalachian School of Law, Peter Odighizuwa, shot three people dead before other students were able to retrieve guns from their cars and put an end to the carnage before there was more bloodshed.

well THAT'S a little revisionist. how's about what actually happened?...

After the shootings, student Mikael Ray Gross said he saw Odighizuwa put his gun down and pace back and forth outside the school. Gross, who also is a police officer, went to his car for his gun and body armor.

As two other students wrestled Odighizuwa to the ground, Gross said he could hear Odighizuwa say: "I had to do it. I had nowhere else to go. I have nothing else to do."

source

yes, a guy went to go get his gun. but it appears that crossfire had absolutely nothing to do with stopping this jackoff...

[BITEYOASS]

So if they don't allow the mentally Ill to own weapons, will that include Ted Nugent? :D

[FORD]

Originally posted by BITEYOASS
So if they don't allow the mentally Ill to own weapons, will that include Ted Nugent? :D

Hopefully.....

[Nickdfresh]

"Cho was found with a backpack containing a receipt for a Glock 9mm pistol that he had bought in March.

As a permanent legal resident of the United States, Cho was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of any felony criminal charges, a federal immigration official said."

--Noncitizens should have to go through very strict background checks in order to purchase a firearm, and have a justification!

This would thwart any potential terror suspects from legally purchasing weapons as well...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by scamper
The thing to remember is that this terrorist had a plan long ago. He was going to kill people, if he couldn't get guns he would have found another way. They say he hated white rich people so he was also a racist, which makes it a hate crime.

Do you really believe this guy was going to kill 33 people with a screwdriver?

Every statistic I've ever read indicates that guns make it much easier to impulsively kill someone, especially in the cases of these crazy assholes that just snap...

I could be wrong, but in fact, I think gun owners (like me) are far more likely to be shot...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Gun Control Law Helped Campus Killer
Yet disarmament lobby and establishment media exploit tragedy to disarm more potential victims

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, April 17, 2007


In January 2002, a student at the Virginia Appalachian School of Law, Peter Odighizuwa, shot three people dead before other students were able to retrieve guns from their cars and put an end to the carnage before there was more bloodshed. Over thirty victims at VA Tech yesterday were denied that right as a result of a campus gun control law that helped the shooter pick off his targets at will.

A bill in the Virginia legislature last year that would have allowed students with concealed weapons permits to carry their guns at schools was killed, with VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker heralding the move as action that would "help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." How hollow those words sound now in light of eyewitness reports of how victims had to cower under desks as the killer calmly approached, their only means of defense throwing chairs or risking their lives by escaping out of high-rise windows.

"Isn't it interesting that Utah and Oregon are the only two states that allows faculty to carry guns on campus. And isn't it interesting that you haven't read about any school or university shootings in Utah or Oregon? Why not? Because criminals don't like having their victims shoot back at them," Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt said yesterday. "That's why the American people want an end to this ineffective gun ban."

85% of Americans support the right of a principle or a teacher to have instant access to a safely stored firearm in order to defend the lives of students and prevent a school massacre, but a drive is already underway to disarm more victims and grease the skids for more horrors similar to what unfolded yesterday.

The talking points have already been disseminated and the disarmament lobby and the establishment media is doing it's best to exploit yesterday's tragedy to push for gun control.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...lpedkiller.htm [/B]

Yeah, because a kid who committed suicide after a mass-murderous rampage is really worried about being shot...

BTW, it was nice of Sen. John McCain to remind us after a nat'l tragedy that spouting off with NRA talking points is more appropriate than consoling the victims...

Good one John. Yet another reason his campaign is in the toilet...

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by FORD
Hopefully.....

Seriously, who the fuck shits their pants for a week to avoid the draft. The rest of the "Amboy Dukes" just got high to avoid it, I wonder if it was Ted who caused all of the trouble in the group rather than the other way around as he claims it to be.