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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Bush sees tide turning in Iraq

    Bush sees tide turning in Iraq
    By Jon Ward
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    April 21, 2007


    President Bush yesterday said his strategy to send more troops to Iraq is turning the tide in favor of U.S. and Iraqi forces and rebutted claims by a top Democrat that the war is lost.
    "The direction of the fight is beginning to shift," Mr. Bush said in a speech at East Grand Rapids High School in Michigan. "Day by day, block by block, Iraqi and American forces are making incremental gains in Baghdad."
    The president's speech, his second in two days on the war on terrorism, came one day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters, "This war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything."
    The speech also came as Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who was in Baghdad, warned Iraqi political leaders that American patience is wearing thin.
    "Our commitment to Iraq is long-term, but it is not a commitment to have our young men and women patrolling Iraq's streets open-endedly," Mr. Gates said.
    On Thursday, Mr. Reid, Nevada Democrat, cited a series of five suicide bombings on Wednesday that killed more than 200 people as an example of why the war is lost.
    Mr. Bush acknowledged the violence and said that since he began sending the first of about 30,000 reinforcements in January, "we have seen some of the highest casualty levels of the war."
    "And as the number of troops in Baghdad grows and operations move into even more dangerous neighborhoods, we can expect the pattern to continue," he said.
    But the president said coalition forces have reduced by 50 percent the sectarian murders by militias and death squads in Baghdad. He also said coalition troops are getting an increasing number of tips from the civilian population, which have helped them capture weapons, chemicals, and members of death squads and car-bomb rings.
    "This is a difficult period in our nation's history," Mr. Bush said. "It's natural to wish there was an easy way out, that we could just pack up and bring our troops home and be safe. Yet in Iraq, the easy road would be a road to disaster.
    "The price of giving up there would be paid in American lives for years to come," he said, arguing that terrorists in Iraq would attack U.S. targets if troops withdraw prematurely.
    The president, for the first time in a speech on Iraq, used a handful of pictures and maps to illustrate his points.
    To show the reduction of al Qaeda in the city of Ramadi, he showed before and after slides, claiming that cooperation from local sheiks has allowed the United States to almost completely eliminate terrorists and insurgents there over the last two months.
    Mr. Bush also showed a picture of the carnage caused by the largest suicide bombing on Wednesday, which killed an estimated 140 people.
    Mr. Reid responded to the president's remarks with a speech of his own on the Senate floor, claiming that "the longer we continue down the president's path, the further we will be from responsibly ending this war."
    Mr. Reid did not repeat his claim that the war is "lost," a comment that prompted vigorous criticism from Republicans on Capitol Hill for the second straight day yesterday.
    Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, called the comment "a mistake for the ages."
    But Sen. Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat, said Mr. Reid's words needed to be examined in a broader context.
    "I think his larger point is that there's no military solution here; there's only a political solution, and there doesn't appear to be any movement in that direction," Mr. Levin said.
    Mr. Bush and congressional Democrats are locked in a standoff over whether to include a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq in a $100 billion emergency war-spending bill. The president yesterday again called on Democrats to send him a bill without such a deadline.
    But the Democratic leadership said it will keep pushing for an exit date, even if Mr. Bush vetoes the pending legislation.
    The standoff threatens to stall war funds, even as the Pentagon begins raiding other military accounts to pay for the war until June.
    Mr. Reid has advocated cutting off war funding if Mr. Bush follows through on his threat to veto the spending bill.

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    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #2
    Well, with all the credibility, who could argue?

    By progress, does he mean suicide bombings and ambushes?

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59651

      #3
      Chimpy "sees" a lot of things that aren't there. And the Moonie Times believes him.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Keef
        Roadie
        • Jun 2004
        • 101

        #4
        Re: Bush sees tide turning in Iraq

        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
        Bush sees tide turning in Iraq
        By Jon Ward
        THE WASHINGTON TIMES
        April 21, 2007


        President Bush yesterday said his strategy to send more troops to Iraq is turning the tide in favor of U.S. and Iraqi forces and rebutted claims by a top Democrat that the war is lost.
        "The direction of the fight is beginning to shift," Mr. Bush said in a speech at East Grand Rapids High School in Michigan. "Day by day, block by block, Iraqi and American forces are making incremental gains in Baghdad."
        The president's speech, his second in two days on the war on terrorism, came one day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters, "This war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything."
        The speech also came as Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who was in Baghdad, warned Iraqi political leaders that American patience is wearing thin.
        "Our commitment to Iraq is long-term, but it is not a commitment to have our young men and women patrolling Iraq's streets open-endedly," Mr. Gates said.
        On Thursday, Mr. Reid, Nevada Democrat, cited a series of five suicide bombings on Wednesday that killed more than 200 people as an example of why the war is lost.
        Mr. Bush acknowledged the violence and said that since he began sending the first of about 30,000 reinforcements in January, "we have seen some of the highest casualty levels of the war."
        "And as the number of troops in Baghdad grows and operations move into even more dangerous neighborhoods, we can expect the pattern to continue," he said.
        But the president said coalition forces have reduced by 50 percent the sectarian murders by militias and death squads in Baghdad. He also said coalition troops are getting an increasing number of tips from the civilian population, which have helped them capture weapons, chemicals, and members of death squads and car-bomb rings.
        "This is a difficult period in our nation's history," Mr. Bush said. "It's natural to wish there was an easy way out, that we could just pack up and bring our troops home and be safe. Yet in Iraq, the easy road would be a road to disaster.
        "The price of giving up there would be paid in American lives for years to come," he said, arguing that terrorists in Iraq would attack U.S. targets if troops withdraw prematurely.
        The president, for the first time in a speech on Iraq, used a handful of pictures and maps to illustrate his points.
        To show the reduction of al Qaeda in the city of Ramadi, he showed before and after slides, claiming that cooperation from local sheiks has allowed the United States to almost completely eliminate terrorists and insurgents there over the last two months.
        Mr. Bush also showed a picture of the carnage caused by the largest suicide bombing on Wednesday, which killed an estimated 140 people.
        Mr. Reid responded to the president's remarks with a speech of his own on the Senate floor, claiming that "the longer we continue down the president's path, the further we will be from responsibly ending this war."
        Mr. Reid did not repeat his claim that the war is "lost," a comment that prompted vigorous criticism from Republicans on Capitol Hill for the second straight day yesterday.
        Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, called the comment "a mistake for the ages."
        But Sen. Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat, said Mr. Reid's words needed to be examined in a broader context.
        "I think his larger point is that there's no military solution here; there's only a political solution, and there doesn't appear to be any movement in that direction," Mr. Levin said.
        Mr. Bush and congressional Democrats are locked in a standoff over whether to include a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq in a $100 billion emergency war-spending bill. The president yesterday again called on Democrats to send him a bill without such a deadline.
        But the Democratic leadership said it will keep pushing for an exit date, even if Mr. Bush vetoes the pending legislation.
        The standoff threatens to stall war funds, even as the Pentagon begins raiding other military accounts to pay for the war until June.
        Mr. Reid has advocated cutting off war funding if Mr. Bush follows through on his threat to veto the spending bill.

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        I don't post much and have not been around enough to tell, but has this Brian guy always been this diluted?

        I see it here and there, but from what i can tell he is of the few that are really trying to hang on to this thing.

        Paid or fucking stupid, i can't tell?

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        • Cathedral
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2004
          • 6621

          #5
          The only tide Bush ever sees is in the fucking bathtub on a gassy night after spicey foods.

          His reality is very subjective.

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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Re: Re: Bush sees tide turning in Iraq

            Originally posted by Keef
            I don't post much and have not been around enough to tell, but has this Brian guy always been this diluted?

            I see it here and there, but from what i can tell he is of the few that are really trying to hang on to this thing.

            Paid or fucking stupid, i can't tell?
            I post articles and op-eds. That doesn't mean I agree with everything in them. It's fun to see "you guys" react anyway.

            Besides, the word you were looking for is "deluded."

            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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            • EAT MY ASSHOLE
              Veteran
              • Feb 2006
              • 1887

              #7
              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              Besides, the word you were looking for is "deluded."
              You would know!
              RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49567

                #8
                :D

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                • EAT MY ASSHOLE
                  Veteran
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1887

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  I post articles and op-eds.
                  So do I. Here's one I recently came across!

                  "Brian Is A Fucking Idiot"

                  The text of the article can be found by linking to any of Brian's posts. Happy reading!
                  RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                    So do I. Here's one I recently came across!

                    "Brian Is A Fucking Idiot"

                    The text of the article can be found by linking to any of Brian's posts. Happy reading!

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                    • hideyoursheep
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6351

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: Bush sees tide turning in Iraq

                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      I post articles and op-eds. That doesn't mean I agree with everything in them. It's fun to see "you guys" react anyway.

                      Besides, the word you were looking for is "retarded."

                      HA!


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                      • Hardrock69
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 21897

                        #12
                        Keef understands correctly the Brian has his head in the sand.

                        And refuses to take it out, and look at the real world.

                        It's ok.

                        He is allowed to be delusional.

                        Just makes a perfect example for everyone else of someone who has no common sense.

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                        • hideyoursheep
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6351

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hardrock69
                          Keef understands correctly the Brian has his head in the sand.

                          And refuses to take it out, and look at the real world.

                          It's ok.

                          He is allowed to be delusional.

                          Just makes a perfect example for everyone else of someone who has no common sense.
                          An intellectual punching bag of sorts....


                          *POW*

                          *POP*

                          *THUMP*


                          You ok, brian?:p

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                            So do I. Here's one I recently came across!

                            "Brian Is A Fucking Idiot"

                            The text of the article can be found by linking to any of Brian's posts. Happy reading!
                            Fuck off, little boy. Run along, daddy's coming to use the computer.

                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • BigBadBrian
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10625

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hardrock69
                              Keef understands correctly the Brian has his head in the sand.

                              And refuses to take it out, and look at the real world.

                              It's ok.

                              He is allowed to be delusional.

                              Just makes a perfect example for everyone else of someone who has no common sense.
                              Geez, I'm surprised you managed to string so many words together. The Forum Idiot is improving....a little.


                              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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