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Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Your point being?
Your point being?
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Rumsfeld? His immediate chain of command were very aware of the circumstances. What the Pentagon did with it was an outrage. Glorify the death of a soldier due to his celebrity status with an invented scenario.Originally posted by BigBadBrian
None.
Someone in the Army chain of command fucked up.Comment
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Goddammit!! I tell you there is no fucking excuse for this asshole...Nothing is ever his fault and he never does anything wrong.Originally posted by blueturk
Someone in the Army chain of command fucked up alright. They didn't delete e-mails concerning the circumstances of Tillman's death. Are things so fucked up in the Bush Era that Dubya doesn't get e-mails of such importance? Or did Bush (or Cheney, or both) tell the Pentagon to shut the hell up? I think the latter.
He's the fucking pResident and he doesn't fucking "know" anything-ever.Comment
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It's Rumsfeld's fault?Originally posted by hideyoursheep
Rumsfeld? His immediate chain of command were very aware of the circumstances. What the Pentagon did with it was an outrage. Glorify the death of a soldier due to his celebrity status with an invented scenario.
OK by me....you'll never find me defending that bastard.
“If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. BushComment
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Liar! You have defended him!Comment
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"I'm no Rambo." --Jessica Lynch
Jessica Lynch Sets the Record Straight
Jessica Lynch tells Congress what really happened to her in Iraq.
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Julie Scelfo
Newsweek
Updated: 3:58 p.m. ET April 28, 2007
April 24, 2007 - Jessica Lynch became a national hero in 2003 after she was dramatically rescued by a team of Special Ops soldiers from an Iraqi hospital where she was believed to be a prisoner of war. Her story was compelling not only because she was a 19-year-old supply-unit clerk who had stumbled into an attack during convoy travel with her unit, but because she was portrayed by military authorities as having valiantly fought back against her attackers even as her unit was surrounded and her comrades were killed and injured. The legend quickly unraveled, however, after Lynch returned to the States, recuperated from her substantial injuries (broken arm and leg bones, damage to her back and kidneys, and a six-inch laceration to her head) and began to speak out about what had really happened. Today, Lynch testified before a House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing probing the source of misleading information about Lynch and about the death of Army Ranger Specialist Patrick Tillman in Afghanistan. NEWSWEEK's Julie Scelfo spoke with Lynch, who turns 24 on April 26, about her experiences. Excerpts:
NEWSWEEK: Why did you decide to testify?
Jessica Lynch: Mainly it was about me just getting out the truth. I’ve spent the past four years trying to tell everybody the real truth, and not the stories they put together. They were false, ya know?
What was the greatest misinformation about you?
The whole Rambo story, that I went down fighting. It just wasn’t the truth.
So what really happened?
I didn’t even get a shot off. My weapon had jammed. And I didn’t even get to fire. A rocket-propelled grenade hit the back of our [Humvee], which made Lori [Piestewa], my friend, lose control of the vehicle, and we slammed into the back of another truck in our unit.
Who is to blame for spreading the misinformation?
Well, I think really the military and the media. The military, for not setting the record straight and the media for spreading it, and not seeking the true facts. They just ran with it instead of waiting until the facts were straightened out.
What do you hope Congress achieves with today’s hearing?
I hope it [helps] the Tillman family get the accurate information that they deserve. They need to know what happened to their son and why they were lied to.
Do you feel like this is a pattern, misinformation from the military?
Well, it kind of seems like that’s the way it’s been happening. I hope they can learn from mistakes and correct this and not let other family members and soldiers have to deal with the things that my family and I went through.
What was the hardest part of having misinformation spread?
Knowing that it wasn’t the truth. I just, I had to get [the truth] out there. I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself knowing that’s not exactly how it happened.
You said during your testimony you weren’t there for political reasons. But do you have an opinion about how the administration used your story and Tillman’s story for political gain?
I don’t know because there’s no way of knowing why this stuff was even created in the first place. Only the people who created it would have the answers.
So how is your recovery going?
I still have a lot of problems, a lot of injuries. I will probably never heal or be the same again. But I’m OK with it, and I’ve learned to cope with it in my own way.
You said in your testimony that Iraqi nurses actually tried to return you once to the Americans. What happened?
We were fired upon, and [the] driver of the ambulance had to turn around and brought me back to the hospital.
So the Iraqis were trying to return you?
Yeah, hopefully that’s what they were doing. That’s what I was told they were doing. We were headed to a checkpoint and we were fired upon.
If the Iraqis wanted to give you back, why did the military stage a big rescue? Couldn’t they just knock on the hospital door?
I don’t know. I hope that they had my interests in mind, and were wanting to get me out of there.
Do you feel like you were exploited by the military?
No, I don’t. I felt sort of like that in the beginning, yes. But now, four years later, I don’t.
During today’s testimony Pat Tillman’s brother, Kevin, says he feels his brother’s death was “exploited” for political reasons.
I agree, they did that in a way. Pat Tillman's situation was similar to mine but completely different. He didn’t have the opportunity to come home and tell the truth and set the record straight like I did.
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She sure has some "guns" though.
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Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's Rumsfeld's fault?
OK by me....you'll never find me defending that bastard.
Actually, tjhough saying "never" is a mischaracterization, Brian HAS strongly criticized Rumsfeld a number of times, including well before he stepped down.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Liar! You have defended him!RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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Yes. But he seems to cover ass for the guy that hired him, and kept him far far too long...
Rumsfeld wasn't the 'disease,' he was one of the many symptoms...Comment
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I'm glad to say she's looking pretty damn good!Originally posted by Nickdfresh
She sure has some "guns" though.
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There's a laundry list of things that are a direct result of his incometence and thick-headed ideas, you know that...Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's Rumsfeld's fault?
OK by me....you'll never find me defending that bastard.
Nice to see you using your common sense.
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He understands Dumsfeld was a mistake.....Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Actually, tjhough saying "never" is a mischaracterization, Brian HAS strongly criticized Rumsfeld a number of times, including well before he stepped down.
Now if only he could admit that Dubyah is an idiot for hiring him/ keeping him/ defending him.Comment
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No I have not. Prove it.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Liar! You have defended him!“If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. BushComment
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Right here!Originally posted by BigBadBrian
No I have not. Prove it.
"Ooooh, look at how smart Rumsfled'adomous was! What a seer!"
Fucking spare me...Comment
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Uh..."flip-flop", or admitting mistakes, Brian...Which?Comment
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