Is Obama this election cycle's Howard Dean?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
There is ZERO chance any republican is gonna be the next president.

Absolutely ZERO.

Outside of massive electro-fraud hijacking, anyway

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Gee, what does "Hollywood" think of Fred Thompson, or your Republican guvvena'?

Nick, why do you have a hard-on for every post I make? Every single one has you making a pithy comeback on it.

Hollywood clearly is divided on Obama/Clinton, many AP articles would tell you that. My collegues who attend these fundraisers all say the same thing. The ones I have been to, the talk is all about how to unify hollywood behind x or y. Why does a fact like that bother you so much?

Conservatives in Hollywood (as quiet as they are) are actually very interested in Thompson, as well as Guiliani.

[BigBadBrian]

I liked Obama's stance on the immigration bill...he doesn't like it.

I think immigration is going to be my "pet" issue this election cycle.

Whomever stands up for American workers and rails against foreign workers coming in and taking jobs (both blue and white collar) away from Americans is going to get my vote, whether they have a "D" or an "R" after their name.

Also...education. If we need "foreign workers" to come in and do jobs that there is a shortage in, why can't we come up with some programs to get American kids into those fields? I'm talking technical and medical fields for these so-called "shortages." Higher level education is out of reach, still, for much of American high-school students. That needs to change.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
BBB is to the Army as Eddymon is to the Links.

Everybody thinks he's a complete idiot, yet he keeps coming back for more.

Oh yeah...I left you out on the list of those who shouldn't post because they can't bring meaningful discussion to the table.

Sorry...didn't want you to feel left out. Need a tissue?

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Well, what choice do we have...

Ron Paul!

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I liked Obama's stance on the immigration bill...he doesn't like it.

I think immigration is going to be my "pet" issue this election cycle.

Whomever stands up for American workers and rails against foreign workers coming in and taking jobs (both blue and white collar) away from Americans is going to get my vote, whether they have a "D" or an "R" after their name.

Also...education. If we need "foreign workers" to come in and do jobs that there is a shortage in, why can't we come up with some programs to get American kids into those fields? I'm talking technical and medical fields for these so-called "shortages." Higher level education is out of reach, still, for much of American high-school students. That needs to change.

i agree on the education.



as for immigration...well, up here, we clearly have a number of illegal immigrants. but they're not really taking any American jobs. our regional unemployment is so low that if you want a job, you'll get a job. the illegal immigrants are taking the low-entry jobs; janitor, hospital orderly; dishwasher.

i'm in no way advocating breaking the law and completely ignoring illegal immigration.

on the other hand, regardless of the residency status of those low-entry workers, if we suddenly didn't have them (illegal immigrants) in those jobs, MORE legal residents would lose jobs because our regional economy would take a hit.

the solution isn't to ignore the law. or at least it shouldn't be. but i like the (let's call it anything but what it is, "amnesty") guest worker-path to citizenship plan. SO LONG AS we then begin to police the border and put some teeth behind the enforcement for those currently illegal immigrants who don't participate.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian


Oh yeah...I left you out on the list of those who shouldn't post because they can't bring meaningful discussion to the table.

Sorry...didn't want you to feel left out. Need a tissue?

LMAO. Are you truly deluded enough to believe that I care?

[FORD]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian


Whomever stands up for American workers and rails against foreign workers coming in and taking jobs (both blue and white collar) away from Americans is going to get my vote, whether they have a "D" or an "R" after their name.

Also...education. If we need "foreign workers" to come in and do jobs that there is a shortage in, why can't we come up with some programs to get American kids into those fields? I'm talking technical and medical fields for these so-called "shortages." Higher level education is out of reach, still, for much of American high-school students. That needs to change.

Wow, that last part sounded downright LIBERAL of you. Did you change your meds recently?

What you failed to mention though is outsourcing. Foreign workers don't have to come here to steal American jobs when the corporations willingly deliver the jobs to India, China, Vietnam, or where ever.

It's time to make corporations responsible. If they are going to profit from Americans, then they should employ Americans. They should also pay taxes in America, and I do mean PAY them, not jump through loopholes and pass them off to their customers while paying a ceo an 8 figure salary to sit on his ass.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Well, what choice do we have...

I dunno. But you could stop automatically rewarding phony-baloney Republicans with your Southern white male auto-vote.

Then maybe they just might do things that are actually in your interest....

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Nick, why do you have a hard-on for every post I make? Every single one has you making a pithy comeback on it.

I don't know. Why do you have a "hard-on" for Fred Thompson? Is he even running?

Is he your Moses?

You're the one that brought up the "Hollywood" angle, yet your favorite not-yet-a-candidate is an ex-actor...

Gee. What why would anyone ever point out the logical inconsistency on a political board?

Hollywood clearly is divided on Obama/Clinton, many AP articles would tell you that. My collegues who attend these fundraisers all say the same thing. The ones I have been to, the talk is all about how to unify hollywood behind x or y. Why does a fact like that bother you so much?

Conservatives in Hollywood (as quiet as they are) are actually very interested in Thompson, as well as Guiliani.

But who really gives a shit about Hollywood? as much time is devoted to it by the conservative op-eds and whatever...

It's almost like they're trying to deflect the sleazy oil industry bribes they've received, whose actions around the world are thousands of times worse than any actor's I can think of, or the ones from drug companies, HMOs, the gun lobby, the credit card industry, etc. It's just another meaningless contrived issue of complete and utter bullshit. And your talking about the imposed and sustained ignorance of industries that have affect our public policy for the worse --so we can all obsess over what fucking Alec Baldwin said in 1998. Who gives a fuck!

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
II think immigration is going to be my "pet" issue this election cycle.

Whomever stands up for American workers and rails against foreign workers coming in and taking jobs (both blue and white collar) away from Americans is going to get my vote, whether they have a "D" or an "R" after their name.

Of course it's going to be your "pet" issue. You conservatives are assigned "pet" issues in every election.__They are designed to distract you form any of our actual problems.

You don't know anyone who lost their job to an illegal immigrant.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Ron Paul!

I'm pretty keen on Paul too.

Even with his views on foreign policy? He feels that we were attacked on 911 because of our policies.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by ELVIS
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George Bush let us down...

You could maybe kind of have an attempt at arguing that after the first term.

You voted him in again!

You let yourself down.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I don't know. Why do you have a "hard-on" for Fred Thompson? Is he even running?

Is he your Moses?

You're the one that brought up the "Hollywood" angle, yet your favorite not-yet-a-candidate is an ex-actor...

Gee. What why would anyone ever point out the logical inconsistency on a political board?



But who really gives a shit about Hollywood? as much time is devoted to it by the conservative op-eds and whatever...

It's almost like they're trying to deflect the sleazy oil industry bribes they've received, whose actions around the world are thousands of times worse than any actor's I can think of, or the ones from drug companies, HMOs, the gun lobby, the credit card industry, etc. It's just another meaningless contrived issue of complete and utter bullshit. And your talking about the imposed and sustained ignorance of industries that have affect our public policy for the worse --so we can all obsess over what fucking Alec Baldwin said in 1998. Who gives a fuck!

OK,

First off I bring up hollywood because an ENORMOUS amount of Dem funding comes from here. I live here and work in those circles, so I see it often. Clinton and Obama have split hollywood in two in terms of who to support/fund. I fail to see the inconsistency in it that I mentioned Thompson. I'm just making a point about the fundraising. Takes money to win. The conservative side of Hollywood is not fractured in that way. I could give a fuck about op-eds and the "conservative media", a point I did not bring up, you did. I don't know where I'm talking about "the sustained ignorance of industries". Spin that out with another illogical counter if you choose, but it should be pretty straight ahead.

Fred Thompson is my candidate of choice , should he choose to run? Is he my Moses? WTF?