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  • hideyoursheep
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2007
    • 6351

    #31
    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    I see your point, but in my view, I don't see this particular group of people as being a "problem"....

    These people volunteer to serve their country, which can't be said for a whole shitload of people, most of whom do nothing but bitch...

    So while they do their time, they take advantage of the tremendous education benefits that the military dangles in front of them, and they then decide to get out when their time's up.....
    The problem is what you've indicated yourself-less people are intrested in serving at all and the recruiters hit up the lower-income neighborhoods for new faces, most of which have no chance of going to college on their own, or in some cases never even graduated HS. The quality of manpower is going to suffer and the standards to which you have to meet to be eligible for service have already been lowered.
    The draft would bring in a higher quality of recruit and increase the number of combat ready forces without having to lower the standards of the military. Even the "volunteers" have an issue with the way things are right now and are opting out as soon as their time's up.

    Drafting again wouldn't be such a bad idea. There are alot of "supporters" who could serve, but won't.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #32
      Originally posted by hideyoursheep
      WTF???


      Using them for ground security forces now??
      Yes. Air Force and Navy personnel have increasingly been put in HUMVEEs on patrol duties once reserved for infantry related combat arms...

      We simply do not have enough people...

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      • hideyoursheep
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2007
        • 6351

        #33
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Yes. Air Force and Navy personnel have increasingly been put in HUMVEEs on patrol duties once reserved for infantry related combat arms...

        We simply do not have enough people...

        Great...

        A result of Rumsfeld's "steamlining" the military?

        What's next? 1st Cav running around on the USS Independence??
        Last edited by hideyoursheep; 05-28-2007, 10:23 AM.

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          #34
          Blackwater can do that...

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          • hideyoursheep
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2007
            • 6351

            #35
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            Blackwater can do that...
            I'm about to pull a Dennis Hopper and move to the mountains.

            These pricks have gutted the military with a serrated blade.

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            • Va Beach VH Fan
              ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
              • Dec 2003
              • 17913

              #36
              Originally posted by hideyoursheep
              The problem is what you've indicated yourself-less people are intrested in serving at all and the recruiters hit up the lower-income neighborhoods for new faces, most of which have no chance of going to college on their own, or in some cases never even graduated HS. The quality of manpower is going to suffer and the standards to which you have to meet to be eligible for service have already been lowered.
              The draft would bring in a higher quality of recruit and increase the number of combat ready forces without having to lower the standards of the military. Even the "volunteers" have an issue with the way things are right now and are opting out as soon as their time's up.

              Drafting again wouldn't be such a bad idea. There are alot of "supporters" who could serve, but won't.
              Yup, you nailed it....

              They're also enticing prospective recruits with a pretty decent signing bonus of up to 40 grand....
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              • hideyoursheep
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2007
                • 6351

                #37
                Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                Yup, you nailed it....

                They're also enticing prospective recruits with a pretty decent signing bonus of up to 40 grand....
                Actually, I thougt about it...making a "comeback"...


                Chimpy's gonna have to pony up a little more than 40 G's to get me interested...

                And the wife thinks I'm nuts...

                She doesn't understand.

                Man, those guys need help.

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                • BITEYOASS
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6530

                  #38
                  I say get the military out of Iraq and abandon the private haliburton mercenaries, like their doesn't have enough money anyway to pick their asses up. They can use those russian transports to evacuate for all I care. Yep, shit you not! They have their own aircraft, saw it with my own eyes.

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                  • hideyoursheep
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6351

                    #39
                    Originally posted by BITEYOASS
                    I say get the military out of Iraq and abandon the private haliburton mercenaries...


                    Karma.

                    Sweet.

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                    • BITEYOASS
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6530

                      #40
                      Shit they make 100k grand a year and supposedly know the country inside and out. Kind of reminds me of that one line from that movie "The Rock": When we started taking hostages and demanding a ransom, we gave up our oath as Marines and became Mercenaries. And Mercenaries get paid. So where's my fuckin money!

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                      • BITEYOASS
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6530

                        #41
                        Here's what will happen when the Halliburton mercenaries wind up with back pay:

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                        Last edited by BITEYOASS; 05-30-2007, 12:15 PM.

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                        • hideyoursheep
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6351

                          #42
                          And they don't have to deal with garrison!!

                          Let's me an' you start our own "private security" Corp....


                          OOPS!!

                          I'm broke!

                          Let's call W's brother in charge of Blackwater instead.

                          How's the SAW work in the sand, BITEYOASS?

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                          • BITEYOASS
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6530

                            #43
                            Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                            And they don't have to deal with garrison!!

                            Let's me an' you start our own "private security" Corp....


                            OOPS!!

                            I'm broke!

                            Let's call W's brother in charge of Blackwater instead.

                            How's the SAW work in the sand, BITEYOASS?
                            Your broke and I'm too stingy with my money & gettin too much pussy to worry about starting up a private security firm. Sorry! :D Never fired a shot over there, but I built a shitload of Helo rockets, JDAMs, laser-guided and general purpose bombs.

                            Now on a different note, the government contract companies can get away with anything. But if you do stuff on your own like that one former Green Beret in Afghanistan who actually captured some terrorists for bounty, then they throw your ass in an Afghan prison. I forgot the name of that guy.

                            While I was over there, someone in my unit mentioned about joining KBR when they got out and become a forklift driver. I told him how out of his fuckin mind he was, seeing that they don't let any of the KBR drivers arm themselves. It was almost as stupid as some others in my unit who wanted to make money off of the new Iraqi Dinar, which I also shot down. I also told everyone to avoid the real estate market a couple years back, nowadays it's seems that I'm right.

                            Halliburton has great death benefits guarantees. They guarantee that you die for their benefit:

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                            • hideyoursheep
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6351

                              #44
                              Originally posted by BITEYOASS
                              Your broke and I'm too stingy with my money & gettin too much pussy to worry about starting up a private security firm. Sorry! :D Never fired a shot over there...

                              Now on a different note, the government contract companies can get away with anything. But if you do stuff on your own like that one former Green Beret in Afghanistan who actually captured some terrorists for bounty, then they throw your ass in an Afghan prison. I forgot the name of that guy.
                              They don't WANT you to catch anybody.

                              Broke? Yeah. Too broke to run up a 100 G per man tab, unless my cash came from BushCo.

                              Fuck, man.. why can't we fight like the old days, when there was an actual Army?

                              This is sad.

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                              • BITEYOASS
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6530

                                #45
                                I'll laugh my ass off when some disgruntled employees decide to start a rampage at the Halliburton HQ.

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