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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21897

    4,000 People A Week Trying To Leave Uk

    BRITAIN is facing a mass exodus of people looking to escape the crime and grime of modern living.

    The country’s biggest foreign visa consultancy firm has revealed that applications have soared in the last seven months by 80 per cent to almost 4,000 a week. Ten years ago the figure was just 300 a week.

    Most people are relocating within the Commonwealth – in Australia, Canada and South Africa. They are almost all young professionals and skilled workers aged 20-40.

    And many cite their reason for wanting to quit as immigration to these shores – and the burden it is placing on their communities and local authorities. The dearth of good schools, spiralling house prices, rising crime and tax increases are also driving people away.

    Obtaining a visa to live abroad can cost as little as £1,500 for the right candidates. Plumbers, electricians, construction workers and doctors are famously in demand. The only obstruction to emigration from the UK is a criminal record, poor health, advancing age and being a “third country national”.

    Liam Clifford, a former immigration control officer, set up globalvisas.com as a one-man band 12 years ago. He now employs 60 people and is in the process of opening new offices in both South Africa and Australia. Mr Clifford said: “It’s absolutely phenomenal. People are trying to get away to wherever they can, and most are successful.

    “Ironically, one of the main reasons for leaving is the overstretch of services due to increasing immigration into the UK. People are looking for the better standard of living offered by other countries, as even the most idyllic villages in Britain are under pressure from rising populations.


    Skilled labour is obviously an advantage, but so is speaking the English language. Most countries are harder to get into if you don’t speak English. UK plc simply isn’t fighting hard enough to keep its people. Some are telling us they are fed up with living in this country. Even business people are saying they’ve had enough.

    “They’re saying ‘I can’t put my children into the right school, but if I move abroad I can’. Most people are very patriotic and don’t want to leave. They’re almost terrified about it. But they say they just have to.

    “It’s a shame people at the top don’t recognise they’re not doing enough to retain highly skilled workers in this country. A lot of them are quite young, and they’re not idle. They just can’t see a future for themselves in this country. They want to get married and settle down and buy homes, but they can’t see it happening here.

    “And time and time again they are saying to us they don’t want to be seen as racist because they are quitting because of immigration. We tell them of course they’re not.”

    According to the most recent Office of National Statistics figures, in 2005 the official number of people leaving UK shores was 352,000 – up from 249,000 in 1995. The majority – around 150,000 – migrated from London and the south east.

    Among those who headed out were Simon Blood, 26, and Rachel Roberts, 23, who moved to Australia four months ago. The couple, from Stoke-on-Trent, are loving their new life in far north Queensland so much that they’ve decided it’s permanent.

    Apart from family, football and a few television programmes, there’s nothing they miss about home. Embracing the warmest winter they’ve ever known – averaging 24C daily – both relish the commute to work which takes just five minutes, leaving plenty of time for walks on the beach.

    Simon, a marketing executive, and Rachel, a nurse, followed their dream after seeing a newspaper advertisement for nursing recruits Down Under.

    “It all went very smoothly,” said Simon. “It’s beautiful here and we’ve no plans to go back for good.”


    BRITAIN is facing a mass exodus of people looking to escape the crime and grime of modern living.
  • binnie
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • May 2006
    • 19145

    #2
    I can well believe that. But I think most people leave because the cost of living here is just astronomical, and continues to rise.

    For people who aren't yet on the property ladder, emmigrating is becoming an increasingly viable option.

    I can't see that immigration has an awful lot to do with it actually....
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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      #3
      In 1918 Great Britain was the richest country in the world. Sounds like it isn't so great now. I've heard lots of complaints from British citizens over the years and it seems that the top people are just plain out of touch.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Ellyllions
        Veteran
        • Mar 2006
        • 2012

        #4
        The US needs to take a look at this and understand that if something doesn't change here...
        "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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        • Hardrock69
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Feb 2005
          • 21897

          #5
          My first option would be the Vancouver area. Second option would be Australia.

          I have already given it some thought.

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          • Ellyllions
            Veteran
            • Mar 2006
            • 2012

            #6
            The only thing that bothers me about Canada is the Universal Healtcare thing. I have a friend who had two gall stones the size of golfballs and was on a waiting list for over a year before she could have surgery.

            That is a real issue for me.
            "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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            • binnie
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • May 2006
              • 19145

              #7
              Originally posted by Ellyllions
              The only thing that bothers me about Canada is the Universal Healtcare thing. I have a friend who had two gall stones the size of golfballs and was on a waiting list for over a year before she could have surgery.

              That is a real issue for me.
              If it's like the UK, I'm sure that there are private plans you can take out which means that you can jump the queue.

              We have a National Health service, but if you have private health cover you get treated much, much faster. The National cover is a safety net, and I'm glad we have it, but it is also very limited.
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              • scamper
                Commando
                • May 2005
                • 1073

                #8
                Originally posted by binnie
                If it's like the UK, I'm sure that there are private plans you can take out which means that you can jump the queue.
                Interesting, so you have to pay into the socialized health care, but if you want something done right you need to have your own health insurance.

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                • binnie
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • May 2006
                  • 19145

                  #9
                  Originally posted by scamper
                  Interesting, so you have to pay into the socialized health care, but if you want something done right you need to have your own health insurance.
                  Not if you want it done right, just if you want it done more quickly

                  With anything really serious, cancer or anything life threatening, the National system is generally (and I stress generally) very fast and efficient.

                  But say you have an ailment - you need an operation on your knee but you can still get around, although in a little pain - on the national system you could wait for a year, longer maybe (waiting times really depend on which hospital you are nearest, some might only take a month.) That's when being able to afford private care is beneficial.

                  The National service isn't anywhere near perfect, but it's good to have something as a safety net. When you have 60 million potential patients, no system is going to be great; it's so expensive to run, and organise, that it is full of problems. However, at least it's there for everyone. However, if people can afford it, they'd be crazy not to take out private care as well.
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                  • scamper
                    Commando
                    • May 2005
                    • 1073

                    #10
                    Originally posted by binnie
                    Not if you want it done right, just if you want it done more quickly

                    With anything really serious, cancer or anything life threatening, the National system is generally (and I stress generally) very fast and efficient.

                    But say you have an ailment - you need an operation on your knee but you can still get around, although in a little pain - on the national system you could wait for a year, longer maybe (waiting times really depend on which hospital you are nearest, some might only take a month.) That's when being able to afford private care is beneficial.

                    The National service isn't anywhere near perfect, but it's good to have something as a safety net. When you have 60 million potential patients, no system is going to be great; it's so expensive to run, and organise, that it is full of problems. However, at least it's there for everyone. However, if people can afford it, they'd be crazy not to take out private care as well.
                    Is the private care so expensive that only the upper class can afford it? How are you doing on doctors is there enough?

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #11
                      I'm well traveled and the majority of the world lives in poverty. That people said, I've seen poor people in Peru more happy than people in more industrialized nations. Why? They don't have unrealistic expectations and they don't want it all now.

                      The industrialized world suffers from rampant greed. In the US people are selling out their futures to have it now and we are making China a potential enemy that in the future could destroy us powerful by buying their goods.

                      As far as Austrailia goes, they don't want you. They have made laws so foriegners can't even buy property there. I know, I tried. China where all the money is don't want you either. They already have 1.3 billion people. Jobs are hard enough to find in Canada, many work in the states. They don't want more people flooding in.

                      With AIDS decimating Africa and the rich soil and resources there. Maybe the British citizens should pack together and recolonize it. It would be good for Africa and it would provide a new opportunity for people who are tired of the British Isles.

                      Everyone wants to simply move to the dream job in Shangrala. I'm sorry but the lawn isn't greener on the other side. Everywhere has it's problems.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hardrock69
                        My first option would be the Vancouver area. Second option would be Australia.

                        I have already given it some thought.
                        So did a lot of Chinese in Hong Kong. To get residency you just had to bring $1 million into Canada and lots of people in Hong Kong have that kind of money. The problem was Canada didn't have the economy they were used to and now many have moved back to China.

                        I mean the Canadians want you if you have lot's of money or a set of skills they want. If you are some bloak just trying to escape where you came from they don't want you and that's true for the rest of the world.

                        Money rules everywhere.

                        You might as well stay in the US. It will hit decline but that just means prices dropping and clearing out all the dead wood. Then it's reinvestment time. Maybe the place will split apart but look at India, they are far more disfunctional and complicated than us and they have managed to keep their democracy.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Eddie's Booze
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 326

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nitro Express
                          So did a lot of Chinese in Hong Kong. To get residency you just had to bring $1 million into Canada and lots of people in Hong Kong have that kind of money. The problem was Canada didn't have the economy they were used to and now many have moved back to China.

                          I mean the Canadians want you if you have lot's of money or a set of skills they want. If you are some bloak just trying to escape where you came from they don't want you and that's true for the rest of the world.

                          Money rules everywhere.

                          You might as well stay in the US. It will hit decline but that just means prices dropping and clearing out all the dead wood. Then it's reinvestment time. Maybe the place will split apart but look at India, they are far more disfunctional and complicated than us and they have managed to keep their democracy.
                          Every Country wants Professional people with Skills. Canada pays Skilled people HANDSOMELY whereas America DON'T.

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35750

                            #14
                            Originally posted by binnie
                            If it's like the UK, I'm sure that there are private plans you can take out which means that you can jump the queue.

                            We have a National Health service, but if you have private health cover you get treated much, much faster. The National cover is a safety net, and I'm glad we have it, but it is also very limited.
                            Binnie that's just crazy overstated bullshit.

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35750

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hardrock69
                              BRITAIN is facing a mass exodus of people looking to escape the crime and grime of modern living.

                              The country’s biggest foreign visa consultancy firm has revealed that applications have soared in the last seven months by 80 per cent to almost 4,000 a week. Ten years ago the figure was just 300 a week.

                              Most people are relocating within the Commonwealth – in Australia, Canada and South Africa. They are almost all young professionals and skilled workers aged 20-40.

                              And many cite their reason for wanting to quit as immigration to these shores – and the burden it is placing on their communities and local authorities. The dearth of good schools, spiralling house prices, rising crime and tax increases are also driving people away.

                              Obtaining a visa to live abroad can cost as little as £1,500 for the right candidates. Plumbers, electricians, construction workers and doctors are famously in demand. The only obstruction to emigration from the UK is a criminal record, poor health, advancing age and being a “third country national”.

                              Liam Clifford, a former immigration control officer, set up globalvisas.com as a one-man band 12 years ago. He now employs 60 people and is in the process of opening new offices in both South Africa and Australia. Mr Clifford said: “It’s absolutely phenomenal. People are trying to get away to wherever they can, and most are successful.

                              “Ironically, one of the main reasons for leaving is the overstretch of services due to increasing immigration into the UK. People are looking for the better standard of living offered by other countries, as even the most idyllic villages in Britain are under pressure from rising populations.


                              Skilled labour is obviously an advantage, but so is speaking the English language. Most countries are harder to get into if you don’t speak English. UK plc simply isn’t fighting hard enough to keep its people. Some are telling us they are fed up with living in this country. Even business people are saying they’ve had enough.

                              “They’re saying ‘I can’t put my children into the right school, but if I move abroad I can’. Most people are very patriotic and don’t want to leave. They’re almost terrified about it. But they say they just have to.

                              “It’s a shame people at the top don’t recognise they’re not doing enough to retain highly skilled workers in this country. A lot of them are quite young, and they’re not idle. They just can’t see a future for themselves in this country. They want to get married and settle down and buy homes, but they can’t see it happening here.

                              “And time and time again they are saying to us they don’t want to be seen as racist because they are quitting because of immigration. We tell them of course they’re not.”

                              According to the most recent Office of National Statistics figures, in 2005 the official number of people leaving UK shores was 352,000 – up from 249,000 in 1995. The majority – around 150,000 – migrated from London and the south east.

                              Among those who headed out were Simon Blood, 26, and Rachel Roberts, 23, who moved to Australia four months ago. The couple, from Stoke-on-Trent, are loving their new life in far north Queensland so much that they’ve decided it’s permanent.

                              Apart from family, football and a few television programmes, there’s nothing they miss about home. Embracing the warmest winter they’ve ever known – averaging 24C daily – both relish the commute to work which takes just five minutes, leaving plenty of time for walks on the beach.

                              Simon, a marketing executive, and Rachel, a nurse, followed their dream after seeing a newspaper advertisement for nursing recruits Down Under.

                              “It all went very smoothly,” said Simon. “It’s beautiful here and we’ve no plans to go back for good.”


                              http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ng-to-leave-UK
                              There are 3 times as many people coming in.

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