Bush Wants another $46 Billion,WARHAM CLAIMS WE'RE PAYING FOR IT TODAY

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by WAR

Where's the WAR on this graph you posted?

Not the DOD budget.

Two different expenses, hammy.

Where is the war YOU'RE paying for today by going to work?

[LoungeMachine]

*crickets chirping*

Let's see if WAR can now admit he was WRONG, and the fact is we're NOT paying for this war by going to work every day.

Our children and grandshildren maybe.....

But not us, now.

[Warham]

"In a report to lawmakers yesterday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that even under the rosiest scenario -- an immediate and substantial reduction of troops -- American taxpayers will feel the financial consequences of the war for at least a decade."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/01/analysis_says_war_could_cost_1_trillion/

TAX REVENUE!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by WAR
"In a report to lawmakers yesterday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that even under the rosiest scenario -- an immediate and substantial reduction of troops -- American taxpayers will feel the financial consequences of the war for at least a decade."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/01/analysis_says_war_could_cost_1_trillion/

TAX REVENUE!

LMMFAO!!!!

Didnt read your own link??????




But McGovern said he is worried about the long-term financial impact of the war, adding that his primary concern is that the United States is borrowing money to pay for it. Some leading economists have predicted that, depending on how long troops remain in Iraq, the endeavor could reach several trillion dollars as a result of more "hidden" costs -- including recruiting expenses to replenish the ranks and the lifelong benefits the government pays to veterans.

"It is being paid for on the national credit card," McGovern said. "It is being put on their backs of our kids and grandkids. That is indefensible."

McGovern said he is considering proposing that a "war tax" be levied on all Americans to cover the ballooning expenses.

"We should find a way to pay for it so that when this war is over we are not bankrupt," he said.







Thanks for proving my case, WAR.....

[Warham]

I read the whole article, and you are ignoring what I posted, Lounge.

He suggested that perhaps we should have a war TAX.

I didn't think you could be that dense. How else were we going to pay for the war? Is money going to fall from heaven?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by WAR


I didn't think you could be that dense. How else were we going to pay for the war? Is money going to fall from heaven?

Fuck you moron.

Our CHILDREN will pay for this with THEIR tax money.

YOU haven't paid one NICKLE in tax revenues towards this war.



Now you're trying to deny saying you pay for this war EVERY DAY YOU GO TO WORK.

HERE'S HOW YOUR BOY RON PAUL SAYS WE'RE PAYING FOR IT, DUMBASS








Ron Paul: "Paying for war with credit is reckless and stupid; paying by depreciating our currency is criminal"

- One-Two Years More in Iraq Could Raise Total War Cost to Over $1 Trillion

Ron Paul / LewRockwell.com | February 13, 2007

Two weeks ago I discussed how Congress and the administration use our fiat money system to literally create some of the funds needed to prosecute our ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We’ve already spent more than $500 billion in Iraq, mostly through supplemental spending bills that are not part of the normal appropriations and budget process. But with costs soaring and no end to the war in sight, yet another supplemental spending bill must be passed soon – and both parties in Congress are only too willing to provide the money under the guise of supporting the troops.

Never mind that the American people showed their dissatisfaction with the war in the fall elections. Congress lacks the political will to stand up to the administration and assert its power over the purse strings, and too many vested interests in the defense sector benefit from the supplemental bills. A cynic might even suggest that many Democrats want the war to drag on, despite their supposed opposition, to damage the president politically and benefit them in 2008. But whatever the reason, the money for war keeps flowing.

Defense Department officials will ask Congress for the next supplemental bill in coming weeks. The amount requested is likely to be at least $140 billion. If we stay in Iraq beyond 2007 – and the administration has made it clear that we will – the bill to American taxpayers easily could top one trillion dollars in another year or two.

I doubt very seriously that most Americans think the war in Iraq is worth one trillion dollars. Even those who do must face the reality that the federal government simply doesn’t have the money. Congress continues to spend more than the Treasury raises in taxes year after year, by borrowing money abroad or simply printing it. Paying for war with credit is reckless and stupid, but paying for war by depreciating our currency is criminal.

Even the most modest suggestions for controlling spending in Iraq have been rejected. Some in Congress argued that reconstruction money should be paid back when Iraq’s huge oil reserves resume operation. Another idea was to find dollar-for-dollar offsets in the rest of the federal budget for every dollar spent in Iraq. But the administration adamantly opposed both ideas. Budget cuts are unpopular, and the profits from Iraqi oil will never compensate American taxpayers.

The mentality in Washington is simple: avoid hard choices at all costs; spend money at will; ignore deficits; inflate the money supply as needed; and trust that the whole mess somehow will be taken care of by unprecedented economic growth in the future.

We have embarked on the most expensive nation-building experiment in history. We seek nothing less than to rebuild Iraq’s judicial system, financial system, legal system, transportation system, and political system from the top down – all with hundreds of billion of US tax dollars. We will pay to provide job training for Iraqis; we will pay to secure Iraq’s borders; we will pay for housing, health care, social services, utilities, roads, schools, jails, and food in Iraq. In doing so, we will saddle future generations of Americans with billions in government debt. The question of whether Iraq is worth this much to us is one Congress should answer now – by refusing another nickel for supplemental spending bills.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.




Give it up, asshat.

YOU ARE NIOT PAYING FOR THIS WAR TODAY BY GOING TO WORK.

TAX REVENUES YEARS FROM NOW WILL PAY FOR IT.

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by blueturk
Bush just doesn't give a fuck anymore. He knows that his "legacy" is shot to shit, so he's looking after his buddies in Big Business ( with his SCHIP veto and his efforts to give immunity to the phone companies who helped spy on us illegally ) and acting like his war actually has a mission to accomplish. Before long even the idiots who voted for this piece of shit will regret putting this crooked bastard in office twice.....

"I heard somebody say, 'Where's (Nelson) Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead. Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." --George W. Bush, on the former South African president, who is still very much alive, Washington, D.C., Sept. 20, 2007

He never gave a fuck in the first place.

[FORD]

Originally posted by WAR


No, I'm not for a war tax, I'm for Congress to balance the budget. If they want to pay for the war, then cut some other worthless program.

The most worthless thing they could cut to balance the budget is the WAR.

In fact, we had a budget SURPLUS before Chimpy's useless war, and his even more useless tax "cuts" for millionaires who don't pay taxes to begin with.

[LoungeMachine]

WarHAM is the funniest excuse for a "fiscal conservative" I've seen in a long time....

Tax cuts during war time????

[blueturk]

Originally posted by WAR


...I'm for Congress to balance the budget. If they want to pay for the war, then cut some other worthless program.

My research is done, and I have come to the conclusion that you're still the same lemming that you always were. You want Congress to balance the fucking budget?!! You didn't care about a balanced budget when the Republicans had control of Congress, and God knows they or Bush didn't care either. Not that Dubya cares now....

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." --George W. Bush, Reuters, May 5, 2000

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine

YOU haven't paid one NICKLE in tax revenues towards this war.

technically, not entirely true...

considering we've been borrowing for this war since it pretty much started, today's FY2007 budget definitely has some debt payments being made that consist partly of debt generated to pay for the war...

TAX REVENUES YEARS FROM NOW WILL PAY FOR IT.

actually, you're only partially right here. not just years; the fact is we'll be paying for the war for decades...

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
technically, not entirely true...

considering we've been borrowing for this war since it pretty much started, today's FY2007 budget definitely has some debt payments being made that consist partly of debt generated to pay for the war...

Yes, and we're paying INTEREST payments, not bullets and tanks.

We're not paying for the WAR yet, only the debt on the war.

Nice try, though, with your hair-splitting

Originally posted by knuckleboner
actually, you're only partially right here. not just years; the fact is we'll be paying for the war for decades...

Oh my God.......

Decades are made up of YEARS.

So if you were to say you've been a fan of Van Halen for years, you'd be lying because it's actually decades?


This is the kind of "depends on your definition of the word IS, is" bullshit that makes me crazy.

WARPIG SAYS HE'S PAYING FOR THE WAR BY GOING TO WORK TODAY [AND EVERYDAY]

AND THAT IS BULLSHIT.

I'm surprised you're here trying to defend his bullshit stance...

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by blueturk
My research is done, and I have come to the conclusion that you're still the same lemming that you always were.

yep.

He went through this whole "I'm fed up with the repuke party" bullshit....

It lasted about a day.

He's back to his usual FAUX self, only worse...

[LoungeMachine]

And I'm still waiting for WARPIG to tell me where the budget for the WAR is on the graph he posted....

You posted the graph to explain your argument, but you didnt notice it actually proved MY point.....

So, why did you post it?

[DLR'sCock]

So what is the total of this war to date?

Over 600 billion? I have no idea.