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  • LoungeMachine
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    • Jul 2004
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    Bush's Aussie Buddy Shot Down In Flames

    Australian Premier, an Ally of Bush, Is Defeated


    By TIM JOHNSTON
    Published: November 25, 2007

    SYDNEY, Australia, Nov. 24 — Australia’s prime minister, John Howard, one of President Bush’s staunchest allies in Asia, suffered a comprehensive defeat at the hands of the electorate on Saturday, as his Liberal Party-led coalition lost its majority in Parliament.


    Prime Minister John Howard conceded defeat.
    He will be replaced by Kevin Rudd, the Labor Party leader and a former diplomat. “Today Australia looks to the future,” Mr. Rudd told a cheering crowd in his home state, Queensland. “Today the Australian people have decided that we as a nation will move forward.”

    Mr. Howard’s defeat, after 11 years in power, follows that of José María Aznar of Spain, who also backed the United States-led invasion of Iraq, and political setbacks for Tony Blair, who stepped down as Britain’s prime minister in June.

    Mr. Howard conceded nearly two hours after the last polling booths closed in the west of the country.

    “A few moments ago I telephoned Mr. Kevin Rudd and I congratulated him and the Australian Labor Party on a very emphatic victory,” Mr. Howard told a room of emotional supporters.

    “I leave the office of prime minister with our country prouder, stronger and more prosperous than ever,” he said.

    Returns for a small number of seats are yet to be compiled, but analysts estimate that over all the Labor Party gained 28 seats to win a comfortable 22-seat majority in the 150-seat lower house of Parliament, where governments are formed. Official results are expected within the next day or two.

    Mr. Howard may suffer the indignity of losing his own seat, representing a district on Sydney’s north shore, which he has held for 33 years, to a former television anchor and rookie politician. He would be the first sitting prime minister to lose his seat since 1929.

    It was a bruising campaign, and the Liberal Party has said it will challenge some results on the grounds that the Labor candidates had broken electoral law by failing to resign from government jobs before running for office. The Labor Party said it had broken no laws.

    Mr. Rudd, 50, campaigned on a platform of new leadership to address broad concerns about the environment, health and education. He has said his first acts as prime minister would include pushing for the ratification of the Kyoto agreement on reducing greenhouse gas emissions and negotiating the withdrawal of Australia’s 500 troops from Iraq.

    Analysts said the leadership change was unlikely to bring a radically new foreign policy, although they expected a shift in emphasis in the relationship with the United States, Australia’s closest ally. “Australia will remain a close ally of the United States, and Rudd remains committed to the alliance,” said Michael Fullilove, of the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney. But he noted that “if there is a Democratic administration elected next year, to some extent they would become closer.”

    Mr. Howard has a strong personal relationship with Mr. Bush that is based on a similar socially conservative philosophy and a shared outlook on terrorism.

    Australian opinion polls have shown that although Australians remain strong supporters of the so-called Anzus alliance — the security pact among Australia, New Zealand and the United States — they do not approve of Mr. Bush or the Iraq war.

    The attempts by Mr. Howard’s coalition to stress its economic record apparently failed to impress voters. The Australian economy has had 17 years of continuous growth, lately driven by Chinese demand for Australian iron ore and coal. Mr. Howard had warned voters that a Labor victory would endanger the country’s prosperity.

    Despite the coalition campaign, there was little distance between the parties on economic policy, and the defining characteristics came down to the personalities of the leaders. Mr. Howard was running for a fifth term, and many voters said they were ready for a change.

    “Howard is out of touch,” said Mark Pana, 52 and a devoted David Lee Roth Fan, who voted in eastern Sydney on Saturday morning. “It’s the arrogance of being in power for too long — he hasn’t been listening.”

    If Australia’s strongest military and political alliance is with Washington, the fuel for its economy is coming from China. Mr. Fullilove says Mr. Rudd’s ability to manage the relationship among Canberra, Washington and Beijing will be crucial.

    Mr. Rudd, 18 years younger than Mr. Howard, has a reputation as a cerebral student of policy, as opposed to the Liberal leader’s image of a hardened and aggressive political animal.

    “He seems more personable, approachable. He doesn’t seem arrogant — yet — and I have respect for him,” said Marcelle Freiman, who voted for Mr. Rudd in eastern Sydney on Saturday.

    Mr. Rudd’s dry image was altered by the news that he had visited a strip club during a trip to New York in 2003.

    He was a diplomat in Beijing and speaks Mandarin. He impressed many with a fluent address to President Hu Jintao of China when Mr. Hu visited Australia in September.

    Mr. Fullilove said Mr. Rudd’s experience regarding China was unlikely to make a significant difference to Australia’s relationship with the United States. “I would counsel against people assuming that because Kevin Rudd speaks Mandarin there would be a big rebalancing of the relationship in favor of Beijing,” he said.

    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?
  • Dan
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    • Jan 2004
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    #2
    This Is Great News.
    First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.

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    • Grant
      Sniper
      • Feb 2005
      • 881

      #3
      I was disappointed with the result. Both sides to be honest were fairly pathetic but I thought Howard, and later Costello as transition to PM, were the better candidates. I like Rudd but I don't think he can manage the economy better than the Libs did. And his team is filled with a bunch of dimwits, and that includes Peter Garrett.

      The Liberal campaign, to their own fault, was pretty mediocre. They had it coming with the workchoices policy and their failure to address climate change. Another problem is that Costello comes across as too arrogant in the media which would've affected many voters. And then there was Iraq.

      I'm already bracing for a huge interest rate rise under Rudd so I hope he can make me eat my own words.

      On the brightside the media is gonna have a field day with his "Harry Potter" persona.

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      • Dan
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        • Jan 2004
        • 12194

        #4
        Originally posted by Grant
        I was disappointed with the result. Both sides to be honest were fairly pathetic but I thought Howard, and later Costello as transition to PM, were the better candidates. I like Rudd but I don't think he can manage the economy better than the Libs did. And his team is filled with a bunch of dimwits, and that includes Peter Garrett.

        The Liberal campaign, to their own fault, was pretty mediocre. They had it coming with the workchoices policy and their failure to address climate change. Another problem is that Costello comes across as too arrogant in the media which would've affected many voters. And then there was Iraq.

        I'm already bracing for a huge interest rate rise under Rudd so I hope he can make me eat my own words.

        On the brightside the media is gonna have a field day with his "Harry Potter" persona.
        Grant,If It Gets Really Bad You Could Always Move Down Here.

        BTW...Happy Birthday.:D
        First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.

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        • Grant
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          • Feb 2005
          • 881

          #5
          Originally posted by Dan
          Grant,If It Gets Really Bad You Could Always Move Down Here.

          BTW...Happy Birthday.:D
          Cheers big-ears and both counts! As long as I don't get stampeded on by a herd of sheep and under-arm bowling is allowed in a local game of cricket, then I'll consider it. :D

          Still got a few more days to get through till it's my birthday, mate.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59650

            #6
            Phil Rudd is the Australian PM now?

            Cool. Bon would be proud!!
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • Grant
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              • Feb 2005
              • 881

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              Phil Rudd is the Australian PM now?

              Cool. Bon would be proud!!
              LOL! I wish that were the case. :D

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              • Panamark
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                • Jan 2004
                • 17161

                #8
                We got it wrong this time. BIGTIME

                Aussie economy has never been better, so
                what do we do ??? Vote out the management ???

                Fuck that..
                BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                Love ya Mary Frances!

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                • Grant
                  Sniper
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 881

                  #9
                  Hey Panamark, well it was typical of those Queenslanders for handing so many seats to the Labour party. Sure the Howard Government, like any government, isn't perfect but are we really to expect miracles for this country under an inexperienced Mr Rudd? And God help us should he decide to retire, or pull a Latham and resign due to illness (remember he's suppose to have kidney problems), and then hand the leadership to Julia Gillard.

                  I hope these next 2-3 years passes quickly, and I'm hoping for Malcolm Turnbull as PM in 2010.

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                  • Grant
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                    • Feb 2005
                    • 881

                    #10
                    Actually, it might be heart problems that Rudd has/had.

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                    • Dan
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                      • Jan 2004
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                      #11
                      We Are Just Three Hours Away By Plane Guys.:D
                      First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.

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                      • Panamark
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 17161

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Grant
                        Hey Panamark, well it was typical of those Queenslanders for handing so many seats to the Labour party. Sure the Howard Government, like any government, isn't perfect but are we really to expect miracles for this country under an inexperienced Mr Rudd? And God help us should he decide to retire, or pull a Latham and resign due to illness (remember he's suppose to have kidney problems), and then hand the leadership to Julia Gillard.

                        I hope these next 2-3 years passes quickly, and I'm hoping for Malcolm Turnbull as PM in 2010.
                        Hey Grant..

                        Its encouraging to hear your viewpoint considering you
                        are considerably younger than me..
                        I will always vote for the most competent economic managers,
                        I own my own company, and thats whats important to me.

                        Im old enough to remember my parents blowing all their
                        weekly money on interest only (Interest rates at 18%)
                        and not even making a dent in the principal. I remember
                        the highest youth unemployment with every labour government,
                        and lastly the crippling power it hands to the unions who
                        bring the country to its knees eveytime they want
                        a new coffee break allowance.....

                        I hope Krudd proves me wrong, otherwise we will be back
                        in the same shit pile keating left us in...

                        I guess the only good thing is that the old government
                        has everything in such good shape, labour can fuck
                        up a few things and we will probably be ok.. But you
                        cant let em go a second term, thats when we normally
                        hit recession.


                        DAN THE MAN !!!

                        Maybe you can convince Krudd to build a cross tasman
                        bridge, then we can just drive over :D
                        BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                        Love ya Mary Frances!

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                        • Dan
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 12194

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Panamark


                          DAN THE MAN !!!

                          Maybe you can convince Krudd to build a cross tasman
                          bridge, then we can just drive over :D
                          Mark,Maybe A Kiwi Flying-Fox With Do You.:D
                          First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.

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                          • LoungeMachine
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                            • Jul 2004
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                            #14
                            So...

                            NOBODY actually read the article I posted?????

                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                            • LoungeMachine
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                              • Jul 2004
                              • 32576

                              #15
                              Re: Bush's Aussie Buddy Shot Down In Flames

                              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
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                              “Howard is out of touch,” said Mark Pana, 52 and a devoted David Lee Roth Fan, who voted in eastern Sydney on Saturday morning. “It’s the arrogance of being in power for too long — he hasn’t been listening.”

                              This has been a test of the emergency broadcast system.

                              This was only a test.

                              Had this been an actual emergency, the copy that was changed would have given you clues as to where to hide when the bombings begin.

                              We now return you to your regularly scheduled Forum.

                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                              Originally posted by cadaverdog
                              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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