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  • hideyoursheep
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2007
    • 6351

    Bin Laden's son says, "Dad is sorry"..

    Bin Laden son wants to be peace activist
    By PAUL SCHEMM, Associated Press Writer
    Thu Jan 17, 6:58 PM ET

    CAIRO, Egypt - Omar Osama bin Laden bears a striking resemblance to his notorious father — except for the dreadlocks that dangle halfway down his back. Then there's the black leather biker jacket. The 26-year-old does not renounce his father, al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, but in an interview with The Associated Press, he said there is better way to defend Islam than militancy: Omar wants to be an "ambassador for peace" between Muslims and the West.


    Omar — one of bin Laden's 19 children — raised a tabloid storm last year when he married a 52-year-old British woman, Jane Felix-Browne, who took the name Zaina Alsabah. Now the couple say they want to be advocates, planning a 3,000-mile horse race across North Africa to draw attention to the cause of peace.

    "It's about changing the ideas of the Western mind. A lot of people think Arabs — especially the bin Ladens, especially the sons of Osama — are all terrorists. This is not the truth," Omar told the AP last week at a cafe in a Cairo shopping mall.

    Of course, many may have a hard time getting their mind around the idea of "bin Laden: peacenik."

    "Omar thinks he can be a negotiator," said Alsabah, who is trying to bring her husband to Britain. "He's one of the only people who can do this in the world."

    Omar lived with the al-Qaida leader in Sudan, then moved with him to Afghanistan in 1996.

    There, Omar says he trained at an al-Qaida camp but in 2000 he decided there must be another way and he left his father, returning to his homeland of Saudi Arabia.

    "I don't want to be in that situation to just fight. I like to find another way and this other way may be like we do now, talking," he said in English.

    He suggested his father did not oppose his leaving — and Alsabah interjected that Omar was courageous in breaking away, but neither elaborated.

    Although there is no way to confirm the details he describes of his childhood and upbringing, the strong family resemblance and Omar's knowledge of Osama's family life have convinced many of his lineage.

    "Omar Bin Laden is the son of Osama bin Laden and his first wife, Najwa," a U.S. intelligence official said Thursday, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media. The official confirmed Omar was raised in Sudan and Afghanistan after his father was forced out of Saudi Arabia.

    Omar and his wife insist they have not been bothered by Egyptian officials, who said Thursday that the terror leader's son did not pose a threat.

    "He comes and goes just like any other tourist," said a security official, also speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media. "He is taking a line that is totally different from him father."

    Omar said he hasn't seen or been in contact with his father since leaving Afghanistan. "He doesn't have e-mail," Omar said. "He doesn't take a telephone ... if he had something like this, they will find him through satellites."

    Omar doesn't criticize his father and says Osama bin Laden is just trying to defend the Islamic world.

    "My father thinks he will be good for defending the Arab people and stop anyone from hurting the Arab or Muslim people any place in the world," he said, noting that the West didn't have a problem with his father when he was fighting the Russians in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

    Omar is convinced a truce between the West and al-Qaida is possible.

    "My father is asking for a truce but I don't think there is any government (that) respects him. At the same time they do not respect him, why everywhere in the world, they want to fight him? There is a contradiction," he said.

    Osama bin Laden, believed to be in hiding in the Pakistan-Afghan border region, offered a truce to Europe in a 2004 audiotape and a conditional truce to the United States in a 2006 message. In November, he called on European nations to pull out of Afghanistan in a message seen by some experts as an effort to reach out to Europe.

    But in a series of messages since last fall, he also has been calling for Muslims to rally around jihad, or "holy war," encouraging fighters in Iraq in particular to continue their battles with U.S. and Iraqi forces.

    At least two of Osama bin Laden's sons, Hamza and Saad, are believed to have an active role in al-Qaida — with Hamza believed to be in the Pakistan-Afghan border zone and Saad thought to be in Iran, perhaps in Iranian custody.

    But most of the al-Qaida leader's children, like Omar, live as legitimate businessmen. The family as a whole disowned Osama in 1994 when Saudi Arabia stripped him of his citizenship because of his militant activities.

    The family is wealthy: Osama bin Laden's billionaire father Mohammed, who died in 1967, had more than 50 children and founded the Binladen Group, a construction conglomerate that gets many major building contracts in the kingdom.

    Since leaving his father's side, Omar has lived in Saudi Arabia, where he runs a contracting company connected with the Binladen Group, but he spends much of his time in Egypt. It was during a desert horseback ride at the Pyramids of Giza that he met his wife.

    Their marriage in April made them tabloid fodder, particularly in Britain, where headlines touted the "granny who married Osama bin Laden's son." Alsabah, who has married five times, has five grandchildren.

    The couple has applied for a visa to Britain. And they are planning their endurance horse race across North Africa, which they hope to start in March. It is in the planning stages — they are seeking approval of governments along the route and need sponsors to help pay for the event and raise money for child victims of war.

    Omar said they plan to ride 30 miles a day, with periodic weeklong rests in each country.

    Teams from around the world will be encouraged to join in what the couple envisions as an equine version of the Paris-Dakar car rally. That rally was canceled this year due to fears over terrorist threats made by al-Qaida-affiliated groups in North Africa.

    Omar, however, said he isn't worried.

    "I heard the rally was stopped because of al-Qaida," he said. "I don't think they are going to stop me."

  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    #2
    So?

    Are we now holding kids accountable for the sins of the father?

    Until otherwise proven, I say good on him.

    Shouldn't we be looking for signs of reason from the next generations of Muslims? Or should we just comtinue to give them reasons to hate us?

    This whole "kill 'em all" attitude is never going to work. They can create more infidel-hating clones than we can kill.

    How about giving the kid the benefit of the doubt. If you, me, or anyone else here had a father who was a mass murderer, you'd want the world to know you are NOT the same as your father.

    At some point we're going to have to find another way to deal with these issues. The last 30 years have taught us that.

    We spend a BILLION helping the Afghans kick out the Russians, but then won't pay a MILLION to rebuild their schools. Result?

    HELLO TALIBAN.


    Why do you think Hamas won?


    We spend a trillion dollars destroying and occupying a country, but can't get a hospital built with fresh runing water and electricity 24 hours a day, while we build the world's largets embassey and 14 permanent military bases.

    SHOCK AND AWE DONT WORK.




    So one of Bin Laden's 19 kids wants to talk peace, and you think we should give him the finger?

    whatever
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • hankster
      Roadie
      • Mar 2007
      • 164

      #3
      My whole problem with that comment lies with this, If Tim McVeigh or Terry Nichols said they were sorry, should we have let them off the hook. HELL NO!! We fried McVeigh's ass, and we put Nichols away. This guys father is guilty of genocide against American citizens. I am glad that one of that Fuckhead's kids came out right, but he shouldnt be trying to make a truce.
      The Hankster Cometh

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      • Deklon
        Roadie
        • Jul 2007
        • 103

        #4
        Lounge, you said..."This whole "kill 'em all" attitude is never going to work. They can create more infidel-hating clones than we can kill".

        I'm sure you didn't mean it, but the President agrees with you completely. His objective is not to kill 'em all because he too kows this won't work. The strategy is to change the culture from which these terrorists are bred. A free, democratic Iraq (yes, it is coming) will certainly spread to the other cultures in the region and will help a great deal towards keeping our country safer. I'm sure you, as I, are not pleased with the initial short term results of this strategy. But a president can not be focused soley on short term results that reflect great in polls. As I've said here many times, we will only realize the full benefit (and yes possibly the full negatives) of the President's vision after many years. But to claim that his strategy is simply to kill them all shows a dramatic lack of understanding of the depth of the issue.

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        • Satan
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2004
          • 6664

          #5
          Osama's Bin Dead since 2002. Benazir Bhutto knew this to be true, and when she made the mistake of saying so in public, they took her ass out.

          The BCE needs an invisible boogeyman, because a dead Osama means the 9-11 "revenge" is complete, and they have no more excuses.

          But as long as Osama remains "missing" this shit can go on forever. And Hillary's already salivating to take over the lie machine.
          Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

          Originally posted by Sockfucker
          I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7579

            #6
            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
            So?

            Are we now holding kids accountable for the sins of the father?
            Some hold Junior accountable for the sins of his father...
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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            • hideyoursheep
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2007
              • 6351

              #7
              You can trust Omar Bin Lennon (complete with his own personal Yoko)all you want, Lounge.

              I, for one, do not trust this Al-Qaeda camp trained, bailed-on-the-

              11th hour-to-live-the-billionaire-lifestyle son of a goat fucker.

              Hasn't spoken to his pop since 2000? Bullshit.

              IF my father was a mass murderer not only would I denounce him, I would turn him in myself. I'd be on point.

              I think the pressure of being the offspring of the world's biggest archvillan is forcing this PR move, not because he genuinely believes
              it. He didn't seem to mind Taliban rule too much. Or the USS Cole.
              Or the embassy bombing in Africa.
              Or WTC '93.

              Anyone heard from him prior to this? Sept, 12 '01 maybe?
              No.

              What is he even doing for the poor Arab community that is attracted to
              his dad's club?

              Guilty by association. HE IS OF HIS FATHER.

              Fuck him, and the horse he rides through Egypt on.

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              • Satan
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6664

                #8
                I'm nothing like my Father. I used to be, but that was a long, long time ago.
                Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                Originally posted by Sockfucker
                I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49567

                  #9
                  Dude, Bin Laden is a dipshit that is good at getting money, nothing more...

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                  • hideyoursheep
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6351

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    Dude, Bin Laden is a dipshit that is good at getting money, nothing more...

                    Yeah.

                    My opinion of him might change a little when he starts giving.
                    Helping his fellow Arabs and things like that.






                    I hear you're the man to see for a "trojan". :p

                    Do you keep em in your wallet?

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by hankster
                      My whole problem with that comment lies with this, If Tim McVeigh or Terry Nichols said they were sorry, should we have let them off the hook. HELL NO!! We fried McVeigh's ass, and we put Nichols away. This guys father is guilty of genocide against American citizens. I am glad that one of that Fuckhead's kids came out right, but he shouldnt be trying to make a truce.


                      Your analogies suck ass.

                      First of all, WHO HERE SAID WE SHOULD FORGIVE OBL?

                      Not me.

                      A better analogy would have been "If Tim McVeigh had 19 kids, would we hold them accountable for what he did?"


                      And while we're on the subject of McVeigh / Nichols......

                      We sure caught, tried, and punished them quickly.

                      Funny how BushCO and all of their BILLIONS wasted, LIVES wasted, and rhetorical bullshit can't find a 6 foot 4 arab on a dialysis machine in all of Pakistan with the help of our "allies" in the region


                      The kid Omar owes us nothing, unless you can PROVE he is harboring the old man himself.

                      But if he wants to talk PEACE, and all you can do is cry KILL, then tell me.... Who's the real extremist. You or Omar?

                      FIND OBL, TRY HIM, KILL HIM.

                      That's how we used to deal with terrorists before BushCO came into power.
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                        You can trust Omar Bin Lennon (complete with his own personal Yoko)all you want, Lounge.



                        What a crock of shit.

                        Please quote where I said TRUST HIM.

                        Listening to someone talk about peace in the middle east is a welcome refresher after BushCO's 2 wars for profit.

                        I said don't hold him accountable for what his father did.

                        Don't put words in my mouth.

                        If I listen to George W. Bush, does that mean I trust him?

                        I expect this kind of garbage from the Far Reich in here...

                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                          Some hold Junior accountable for the sins of his father...
                          And some of us hold the father accountable for not pulling out and blowing his wad in Bab's face. :D

                          Imagine a world that never had that idiot running the largest military in history.

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • hideyoursheep
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6351

                            #14
                            "allies"..

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                            • LoungeMachine
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 32576

                              #15
                              And where in the article does it say "DAD IS SORRY"

                              ???????

                              You put it in quotes for christ's sake.
                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                              Originally posted by cadaverdog
                              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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