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  • scamper
    Commando
    • May 2005
    • 1073

    What the hell?????



    Motorists' habits spur call for tax increases

    By JOAN LOWY – 5 hours ago

    l WASHINGTON (AP) — Motorists are driving less and buying less gasoline, which means fuel taxes aren't raising enough money to keep pace with the cost of road, bridge and transit programs.

    A federal commission created by Congress to find a way to make up the growing revenue shortfall in the program that funds highway repairs and construction is talking about increasing federal gas and diesel taxes.

    A roughly 50 percent increase in gasoline and diesel fuel taxes is being urged by the commission until the government devises another way for motorists to pay for using public roads.

    The 15-member National Commission on Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing is the second group in a year to call for increasing the current 18.4 cents a gallon federal tax on gasoline and the 24.4 cents a gallon tax on diesel. State fuel taxes vary from state to state.

    In a report expected in late January, members of the infrastructure financing commission say they will urge Congress to raise the gas tax by 10 cents a gallon and the diesel tax by about 12 cents to 15 cents a gallon. At the same time, the commission will recommend tying the fuel tax rates to inflation.

    The commission will also recommend that states raise their fuel taxes and make greater use of toll roads and fees for rush-hour driving.

    Although the cost of gasoline has dropped dramatically in recent months, such tax increases could be politically treacherous for Democratic leaders in Congress. A gas tax hike was one of the reasons they lost control of the House and Senate in the 1994 elections. President-elect Barack Obama has expressed concern about raising fuel taxes in the current economic climate.

    But commission members said the government must find more road and bridge building money somewhere.

    "I'm not excited about a gas tax increase, but the reality is our current gas tax doesn't pay for upkeep of the system we have now," said Adrian Moore, vice president of the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank in Los Angeles, and a member of the highway revenue commission. "We can either let the roads go to hell or we can pay more."

    The dilemma for Congress is that highway and transit programs are dependent for revenue on fuel taxes that are not sustainable. Many Americans are driving less and switching to more fuel-efficient cars and trucks, and a shift to new fuels and technologies like plug-in hybrid electric cars will further erode gasoline sales.

    According to a draft of the financing commission's recommendations, the nation needs to move to a new system that taxes motorists according to how much they use roads. While details have not been worked out, such a system would mean equipping every car and truck with a device that uses global positioning satellites and transponders to record how many miles the vehicle has been driven, and perhaps the type of roads and time of day.

    "Most if not all of the commissioners have a strong belief and commitment that we need a fundamental transformation of the current system," said commission chairman Robert Atkinson, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a technology policy think tank in Washington.

    A study by the Transportation Research Board of the National Academies estimated that the annual gap between revenues and the investment needed to improve highway and transit systems was about $105 billion in 2007, and will increase to $134 billion in 2017 under current trends.

    Projected shortfalls in revenue led the National Surface Transportation Policy and Revenue Study Commission, in a report issued in January 2008, to call for an increase of as much as 40 cents a gallon in the gas tax, phased in over five years.

    Charles Whittington, chairman of the American Trucking Associations, which supports a fuel tax increase as long as the money goes to highway projects, said Congress may decide to disguise a fuel tax hike as a surcharge to combat climate change.

    Transportation is responsible for about a third of all U.S. carbon emissions created by burning fossil fuels. Traffic congestion wastes an estimated 2.9 billion gallons of fuel a year. Less congestion would reduce greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil.

    "Instead of calling it a gas tax, call it a carbon tax," Whittington said.

    Bottlenecks around the nation cost the trucking industry about 243 million lost truck hours and about $7.8 billion per year, according to the commission.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59651

    #2
    Repeal the fucking tax "cuts" for the rich NOW. Repeal tax "cuts" to corporations NOW. Not just Chimpy's, but all the way back to 1981. Any person with two functioning brain cells will have to admit that is when this country started going to Hell in a fucking handbasket.
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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32576

      #3
      Red herring.

      duh.

      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • Blackflag
        Banned
        • Apr 2006
        • 3406

        #4
        Originally posted by FORD
        Repeal the fucking tax "cuts" for the rich NOW. Repeal tax "cuts" to corporations NOW. Not just Chimpy's, but all the way back to 1981. Any person with two functioning brain cells will have to admit that is when this country started going to Hell in a fucking handbasket.
        How is this related to the topic?

        Incidentally - you must know that the U.S. has the highest corporate taxation in the developed world. Then you wonder why companies move their operations out of the U.S.?

        And the country started going to hell before 1981. Maybe that's just when you started getting a fucking clue.

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        • LoungeMachine
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 32576

          #5
          Originally posted by Blackflag
          How is this related to the topic?

          Incidentally - you must know that the U.S. has the highest corporate taxation in the developed world. Then you wonder why companies move their operations out of the U.S.?

          .

          And YOU must know they also have the biggest LOOPHOLES making the AMOUNT US Corps pay way less than many industrialized powers...

          US Corps move for the reduced LABOR costs, not tax rates.

          Also they move to escape prosecution and other liabilities see: Halliburton

          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49567

            #6
            Originally posted by Blackflag
            ...
            Incidentally - you must know that the U.S. has the highest corporate taxation in the developed world. Then you wonder why companies move their operations out of the U.S.?
            ....
            Um, where exactly are you getting these statistics? And please define the term "developed world."

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            • LoungeMachine
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 32576

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              And please define the term "developed world."

              Places he's never been?

              Originally posted by Kristy
              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
              Originally posted by cadaverdog
              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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              • Guitar Shark
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7579

                #8
                Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                Places he's never been?



                Cut the guy a break, he lives in Yakima. :D
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                Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                • DEMON CUNT
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3242

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                  Cut the guy a break, he lives in Yakima.
                  Ha! The Palm Springs of Washington, no less. I grew up near that shit hole.

                  Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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                  • Blackflag
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 3406

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                    And YOU must know they also have the biggest LOOPHOLES making the AMOUNT US Corps pay way less than many industrialized powers...
                    No, I don't know that. Unless you want to show me otherwise.

                    Public companies have to disclose how much they make and what they pay in taxes. You can calculate a straight percentage from what they really pay. And the bottom line is that the U.S. is at the top. That's reality.

                    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                    US Corps move for the reduced LABOR costs, not tax rates.
                    Companies will move to save money, regardless of the source. Money is money. Do you think higher taxes are an incentive or a disincentive?

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                    • hideyoursheep
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6351

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                      ....see: Halliburton



                      Funny you should mention that....http://wimp.com/videobanned/

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                      • Blackflag
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 3406

                        #12
                        I love all the hate just from stating a fact. Do you people hate your reality that much?





                        And fucking lay off of Yakima. This place is sweet.
                        Last edited by Blackflag; 01-02-2009, 07:13 PM.

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                        • hideyoursheep
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6351

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blackflag
                          No, I don't know that. Unless you want to show me otherwise.

                          Public companies have to disclose how much they make and what they pay in taxes. You can calculate a straight percentage from what they really pay.
                          Go ahead and do that....right now...using your calculator...

                          Prove to all of us how "trickle down economics" work.

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                          • LoungeMachine
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 32576

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blackflag
                            Companies will move to save money, regardless of the source. Money is money. Do you think higher taxes are an incentive or a disincentive?

                            Regardless of the source?

                            So NOW you're changing your argument.....

                            Make a post, and OWN it.

                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                            • DEMON CUNT
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 3242

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blackflag
                              And fucking lay off of Yakima. This place is sweet.
                              Hence your confusion of what is considered part of the "developed world."
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