An Open Letter to the Kansas City School Board

[Redballjets88]

Sounds like that Eugenics stuff that Poppy Bush was a big fan of. But you were OK with that the other day.

Actually my post from the other day said the same I'll say now....

I don't like Eugenics, it breeds hate, what would be nice though is if dumbasses stopped breeding with one another, not race specific, just dumbasses. Because when idiots have kids odds are the kids will be idiots.

And when I say dumbasses and idiots i refer to the people out there that have a kid daddy runs away, or have a kid and abuse the child, etc. They need to stop.

[Seshmeister]

Big Bang
???
Single cell organism
Evolution

The question mark is really how the hell life sprung out of nowhere.

some theories say crystals mutated atoms, some say aliens....this is the point where I feel intelligent design has a point. The odds of aliens or crystals being the spawning point of life are about as likely as a God putting life on Earth.

Simple amino acids and proteins being transported to the Earth via the hundreds of thousands of asteroids and comet collisions is a fuck of a lot more likely than some giant invisible cloud man popping along and putting them there. Assuming of course that another giant invisible cloud man created that invisible cloud man and so on.

There are also been lots of work by chemists which seems to show that you can get the building blocks for life just by copying the conditions of early Earth with constant electric storms and so on.

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/8975.html

Cheers

[FORD]

I don't get why the conversation always ends up trying to disprove the theory. Science is investigating many topics on many different aspects. Even if you want to teach your kids to hold another theory true, you should at least educate them so that they themselves can participate in such discussions when they are older.

A lot of religious parents do that -- they shelter their children from things, become afraid to tackle the big questions, and start fearing that outside forces will take away their kids' faith. When, in reality, not educating about all the different schools of thoughts or letting them explore things beyond what is in the Old Testament account is what leads to a lot of stupefied college students who close up and become ignorant of the world or who grow bitter and reject everything their parents had to tell them.

I mean, I learned all about the Big Bang, evolution, this history of the Earth, and all that fun stuff in a Catholic elementary school. And we all can say a lot about the Catholic Church and her history with science, but they currently teach it in their elementary schools. I don't get why Protestants thump their Bibles over this so hard. You gotta educate your children so they at least can follow the conversation or be able to research more into it themselves.

For the record, this Liberal ass Protestant has always looked at it like this....

I believe God created the earth, and everything organic that's on it. The exact timetable and details that He used to do so are irrelevant. I don't view the whole "Adam & Eve" thing as literal history, but as one of many Creation stories, any or all of which might have more value as literature than as "fact".

[FORD]

Actually my post from the other day said the same I'll say now....

I don't like Eugenics, it breeds hate, what would be nice though is if dumbasses stopped breeding with one another, not race specific, just dumbasses. Because when idiots have kids odds are the kids will be idiots.

Good point. Oh, and HAIL SATAN!!

[Seshmeister]

I don't get why the conversation always ends up trying to disprove the theory.

It's incredible.

The arguments used as well are the same ones that were lost 150 years ago.

They also don't look at the huge amount of extra and completely conclusive evidence that has come from genetics.

Fortunately this creationism nonsense is mainly confined to the US and some primitive tribes people in the 3rd world.

[Redballjets88]

Good point. Oh, and HAIL SATAN!!

Actually its her doing the Hook 'EM sign, for the University of Texas.

Just sayin..not being argumentative.


Hook 'Em

[Redballjets88]

Simple amino acids and proteins being transported to the Earth via the hundreds of thousands of asteroids and comet collisions is a fuck of a lot more likely than some giant invisible cloud man popping along and putting them there. Assuming of course that another giant invisible cloud man created that invisible cloud man and so on.

There are also been lots of work by chemists which seems to show that you can get the building blocks for life just by copying the conditions of early Earth with constant electric storms and so on.

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/8975.html

Cheers

The odd of any of the conditions happening, however long ago the first organism was produced, on Earth are astronomical no matter what, there are a ton of theories, none widely accepted, but they are working on it.



IMO the people who don't believe in evolution are dicks just because who are they to say God didn't do it this way? God does whatever he wants.

[Ally_Kat]

For the record, this Liberal ass Protestant has always looked at it like this....

I believe God created the earth, and everything organic that's on it. The exact timetable and details that He used to do so are irrelevant. I don't view the whole "Adam & Eve" thing as literal history, but as one of many Creation stories, any or all of which might have more value as literature than as "fact".

See, I always viewed it that time was a measurement for man created by man. There wasn't anyone around witness this or to take out the stopwatch. Plus, another beings concept of time could/would be different than ours. A day could have been a few million years.

Plus, if you read the first creation story in Genesis, the jist is sounds very familiar to what we know now: nothingness planet that was forming, possibly molten materials being "waters" in the wind, birth of the sun, formation of an atmosphere/ozone, water pooling, followed by vegetation, life starting as organisms in the water, smaller mammals entering the scene, finishing off with humans . Which, hey, isn't bad for a bunch of nomadic tribes starting their own religion when you think of a lot of all the other creation stories out there.*







*I'm approaching this "not bad" comment outside the realm of religion/God. Despite accepting a higher power, I'm not using this as proof that my way is better than any other way or that it disproves science. I just think it's pretty cool that people in that time period could come so close to what we're studying in science.

[Seshmeister]

IMO the people who don't believe in evolution are dicks just because who are they to say God didn't do it this way? God does whatever he wants.

Also by implication the creationists are saying that this God character is a some sort of cosmic practical joker who spent most of his creation time planting false evidence whilst giggling to himself up his god sleeve.

It's also a huge irony to me that a lot of the creationists come from areas of the US or the Middle East whose whole wealth and way of life is built on the science of geology finding them oil. The exact same branch of science that disproves everything they make up in their myths and stories...

[Ally_Kat]

Also by implication the creationists are saying that this God character is a some sort of cosmic practical joker who spent most of his creation time planting false evidence whilst giggling to himself up his god sleeve.

Oh man, I HATE christians like that. They usually are the same ones who claim you're not saved, even if you are a fellow christian, because you're not a member of their church.

Southern Baptists, I'm looking at you.

[Seshmeister]

The odd of any of the conditions happening, however long ago the first organism was produced, on Earth are astronomical no matter what, there are a ton of theories, none widely accepted, but they are working on it.

Gods and demons and wizards live in the areas where we don't have empirical science.

These are getting narrower and narrower.

When the bronze age goatherders were sharing their myths of Adam and Eve around camp fires god was everywhere as an explanation for all the shit they never knew.

Now God turns up with a bucket of aminoacids 4 billion years ago and then fucked off...

[FORD]

Oh man, I HATE christians like that. They usually are the same ones who claim you're not saved, even if you are a fellow christian, because you're not a member of their church.

Southern Baptists, I'm looking at you.

It ain't just the Southern Baptists, believe me

signed,
Recovering Baptist

[Seshmeister]

The odd of any of the conditions happening, however long ago the first organism was produced, on Earth are astronomical no matter what, there are a ton of theories, none widely accepted, but they are working on it.

The chances against you existing are astronomical.

Your dad met your mother and happened to impregnate her with that particular batch of sperm. The sperm that made you was one of 300 million he fired into her just in that one fuck.

Then you have to start the multiplications. You're grandparents had to meet and fuck at that particular time to create your parents and further and further back. By the time you get back to the time Darwin was writing you are the result of 100s of people fucking just following your grandparents line. Take it back to Roman times and it's billions. Billions of combinations of millions of sperm.

[Ally_Kat]

It ain't just the Southern Baptists, believe me

signed,
Recovering Baptist

They're usually the worst, but I have my experience with elsewhere, also.

My guy is Freewill Baptist and the pastor from his family's church likes to talk smack about the Catholics whenever I'm not around.

We attend on family trips to be civil and because the potlucks are awesome.

[LoungeMachine]

Take it back to Roman times and it's billions. Billions of combinations of millions of sperm.

All to end up here on this board whining about not getting his Social Security....