Just in Case You Were Wondering If Fixed News Was Still Run By Morons

[Big Train]

MSNBC and Fox are both retarded, let's call it like it is. Once CNN can figure out which way the wind is blowing rating's wise, their veil of impartiality will be gone too.

You really can't say that Olbermann and Maddow are any less biased than O'Reilly and gang. O'Reilly never looked like he was ready to do something drastic the way Olbermann is most nights. That guy is seriously unbalanced in the fucking head, much less politically. Maddow seems to be mugging to the camera in her lame attempts to be funny, which only a college lesbian would actually laugh at (being curious and all).

They are both stale and need to reinvent themselves, as does Stewart and Colbert. Bush is gone and the basic formats of their shows need to reflect that.

No more team sports. It's time to "buck up" for America, says Barry O.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Bill Maher used to be the only one who had the balls to speak up, up until Olbermann really got some momentum and Air America got started and now Maddow got her show (which I think she does a fabulous job).

Before then, conservative talk shows were ALL that you saw....

But I think if you watch Olbermann's show closer, you'd notice that he's not shy to criticize Obama as well, as he did in relation to the FISA bill and recently to his indications towards the lack of torture hearings....

In terms of ratings, it's working for MSNBC, is it not ?? I don't have them in front of me, but I know both Olbermann and Maddow were getting better ratings than O'Reilly and Hannity...

[Nickdfresh]

MSNBC and Fox are both retarded, let's call it like it is. Once CNN can figure out which way the wind is blowing rating's wise, their veil of impartiality will be gone too.

You really can't say that Olbermann and Maddow are any less biased than O'Reilly and gang. O'Reilly never looked like he was ready to do something drastic the way Olbermann is most nights. That guy is seriously unbalanced in the fucking head, much less politically. Maddow seems to be mugging to the camera in her lame attempts to be funny, which only a college lesbian would actually laugh at (being curious and all).

They are both stale and need to reinvent themselves, as does Stewart and Colbert. Bush is gone and the basic formats of their shows need to reflect that.

No more team sports. It's time to "buck up" for America, says Barry O.

Olbermann is actually a lot smarter and a much better writer by all accounts. Yeah, he has a bit of a "mad as hell" act. But remember, he started out as a very popular, respected sports journalist on ESPN and didn't have to go political.

O'Reilly got his start in tabloid crap, then discovered he could just pander to the right wing zombies that would pay him to hear only what they wanted to hear and have news filtered and spun for them...

If you need an example of how stupid O'Reilly can look at times, we can provide the example where Bill accused US soldiers in WWII of committing war crimes and massacring German soldiers during the "Battle of the Bulge" in order to make some retarded point that the law should apply to US combat troops in Iraq.

Olbermann corrected him by reminding us all that it was US soldiers that were THE ONES fucking massacred at Malmendy by the Waffen SS, that what a douchewit O'Really is...

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[lazlor]

gotta call it like it is, whether ya like it or not:

"In terms of ratings, it's working for MSNBC, is it not ?? I don't have them in front of me, but I know both Olbermann and Maddow were getting better ratings than O'Reilly and Hannity..."

Both O'Reilly and Hannity wipe the floor with the competition. Not saying thats a good or a bad thing, but that's the numbers. O'Reilly owns his spot and the night, with a normally 2 : 1 lead over the competition over the course of the night, followed by Hannity/Colmes... (or Hannity now..) If the order changes b/w Oreilly and Hannity, or a new show gets into the top 2, it's an abnormal night. Sorry, but that is the case.

[FORD]

It's obvious that Keith & Rachel are inclined to take the Democratic positions, and Tweety Matthews has his moments. But you also have Pat Buchanan, Joe "dead intern" Scarborough, Tom Brokaw, and recently appointed Meet the Press anchor Douchebag Gregory who are clearly cheering for Team Repuke (though at least Pat has broken ranks with the neocons at times)

So I would say MSNBC has far more of a claim to the term "fair and balanced" than FAUX ever did.

[Nickdfresh]

gotta call it like it is, whether ya like it or not:

"In terms of ratings, it's working for MSNBC, is it not ?? I don't have them in front of me, but I know both Olbermann and Maddow were getting better ratings than O'Reilly and Hannity..."

This isn't about ratings, no one ever said that. The reason why douches like Limbaugh, O'Really? and Hannity get ratings is that liberals, moderates, and yes -even moderate conservatives- don't need a teat to suck on that tells them everything is all right and the reason that they vote for douchebags that have anything but their (the middle class') best interests in mind is somehow a good thing. There is no central focal point of media demagogue because liberals and moderates get their news from objective sources that report the bad with the good and what one doesn't want to hear. Hence, the "liberal media" scapegoat used by people that have to intentionally lie and ignore or distort facts....

The truth is that if you have to watch Hannity and Limbaugh to get your "news," then you're a spoonfed, drooling ass-jockey or you're just living in a delusional alternate reality...

Both O'Reilly and Hannity wipe the floor with the competition. Not saying thats a good or a bad thing, but that's the numbers. O'Reilly owns his spot and the night, with a normally 2 : 1 lead over the competition over the course of the night, followed by Hannity/Colmes... (or Hannity now..) If the order changes b/w Oreilly and Hannity, or a new show gets into the top 2, it's an abnormal night. Sorry, but that is the case.

What competition? They've all lost market share and a good deal of credibility...

[lazlor]

Nick -"This isn't about ratings, no one ever said that."

i gave a reply to a direct quote from VA Beach VH Fan... which I quoted, as I am now doing with you.

so... yes, I was replying to a direct quote, not the specific Topic Header, but some of the text written herein.

that happens a bit around here, ya know, jumping into a conversation?....

I don't have a dog in this hunt, relating to the topic, just wanted to clarify/correct a point that was offhandedly stated.

If you want me to pull up ratings for cable news, I can do that for you.

[Nickdfresh]

Nick -"This isn't about ratings, no one ever said that."

i gave a reply to a direct quote from VA Beach VH Fan... which I quoted, as I am now doing with you.

so... yes, I was replying to a direct quote, not the specific Topic Header, but some of the text written herein.

that happens a bit around here, ya know, jumping into a conversation?....

I don't have a dog in this hunt, relating to the topic, just wanted to clarify/correct a point that was offhandedly stated.

If you want me to pull up ratings for cable news, I can do that for you.

Please do!

[Seshmeister]

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[LoungeMachine]

LMMFAO

classic

[Guitar Shark]

Talking of FOX News Check this out!!! :D :D :D

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ed_1232619792

That looks like a local Fox affiliate rather than Fox News... but still... lmfao :D

[Nickdfresh]

Now that's love! :D

[Seshmeister]

I'm trying to work out what she meant if she wasn't being spectacularly rude.

Is it that lame thing when they tap fists or something?

[lazlor]

Cable news ratings for the last week or so....

Nick, here ya go, Nielson ratings for primetime, going to give you a few days only, as this is a ***wall of text***, will comment at the end:

Thurs. Jan 15th

7PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Fox Report w/Shepard Smith– 2,510,000 viewers (759,000) (1,131,000)
Lou Dobbs Tonight –1,426,000 viewers (601,000) (704,000)
Hardball w/Chris Matthews —1,002,000 viewers (360,000) (547,000)
**CNBC Reports (7PM-9PM) —228,000 viewers (81,000) (131,000)
Issues– 574,000 viewers (236,000) (317,000)

8PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
**Pres Farewell Address (8PM-815PM) —4,855,000 viewers (1,205,000) (1,975,000)
**The O’Reilly Factor (815PM-9PM)—4,241,000 viewers (987,000) (1,748,000)
Campbell Brown—1,852,000 viewers (744,000) (948,000)
**SP RPT/Live Coverage (8PM-815PM) —1,654,000 viewers (652,000) (859,000)
**Countdown w/Keith Olbermann (815-9PM) –1,856,000 viewers (722,000) (997,000)
Nancy Grace –1,295,000 viewers (525,000) (767,000)

9 PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity–2,608,000 viewers (647,000) (1,122,000)
Larry King Live—1,825,000 viewers (578,000) (793,000)
Rachel Maddow Show –1,344,000 viewers (527,000) (756,000)
Untold Wealth: Super Rich– 321,000 viewers (129,000) (159,000)
Lou Dobbs- 544,000 viewers (277,000) (348,000)


Friday Jan 16th:
7PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Fox Report w/Shepard Smith– 1,769,000 viewers (463,000) (698,000)
Lou Dobbs Tonight –950,000 viewers (196,000) (403,000)
Hardball w/Chris Matthews —765,000 viewers (187,000) (354,000)
**CNBC Reports (7PM-9PM) —187,000 viewers (56,000) (117,000)
Issues– 675,000 viewers (283,000) (371,000)

8PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor–3,115,000 viewers (658,000) (1,155,000)
Campbell Brown—828,000 viewers (245,000) (393,000)
Countdown w/Keith Olbermann –1,463,000 viewers (471,000) (834,000)
Nancy Grace –1,148,000 viewers (465,000) (689,000)

9 PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity–2,308,000 viewers (462,000) (803,000)
Larry King Live—1,419,000 viewers (474,000) (663,000)
Rachel Maddow Show –1,291,000 viewers (399,000) (690,000)
Deal or No Deal– 404,000 viewers (141,000) (209,000)
Lou Dobbs- 408,000 viewers (182,000) (215,000)


Monday Jan 19th

7PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Fox Report w/Shepard Smith– 2,061,000 viewers (563,000) (969,000)
SR/From MLK to Today –1,840,000 viewers (755,000) (964,000)
Hardball w/Chris Matthews —1,225,000 viewers (428,000) (630,000)
**Deal or No Deal (7PM-9PM) —366,000 viewers (135,000) (173,000)
Issues– 586,000 viewers (231,000) (322,000)

8PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor–3,089,000 viewers (658,000) (1,165,000)
Campbell Brown—1,993,000 viewers (723,000) (956,000)
Countdown w/Keith Olbermann –1,902,000 viewers (737,000) (1,071,000)
Nancy Grace –1,177,000 viewers (434,000) (597,000)

9 PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity–2,385,000 viewers (588,000) (978,000)
Larry King Live—2,200,000 viewers (766,000) (1,039,000)
Rachel Maddow Show –1,644,000 viewers (531,000) (819,000)
Conversations w/Eisner– 129,000 viewers (a scratch w/42,000) (80,000)
Lou Dobbs- 610,000 viewers (186,000) (300,000)


Tues Jan 20th (Inauguration Day)

7PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Fox Report w/Shepard Smith– 2,913,000 viewers (796,000) (1,312,000)
Campbell Brown –4,036,000 viewers (1,755,000) (1,968,000)
Hardball w/Chris Matthews —1,993,000 viewers (635,000) (1,027,000)
**CNBC Reports (7PM-9PM) —269,000 viewers (114,000) (143,000)
Issues– 461,000 viewers (180,000) (235,000)

8PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor—3,549,000 viewers (819,000) (1,449,000)
Campbell Brown—3,993,000 viewers (1,530,000) (1,970,000)
Countdown w/Keith Olbermann –2,528,000 viewers (969,000) (1,324,000)
Nancy Grace –884,000 viewers (317,000) (468,000)

9 PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Inauguration Ball Special–3,789,000 viewers (1,134,000) (1,684,000)
Anderson Cooper 360—5,092,000 viewers (2,126,000) (2,618,000)
Rachel Maddow Show –2,388,000 viewers (905,000) (1,262,000)
Scam of the Century– 344,000 viewers (129,000) (167,000)
Lou Dobbs- 442,000 viewers (188,000) (254,000)


Ok, thats the last 4 days of Nielson's that have been released. I take back my 2 to 1 comment on viewership, and change it to 1.5 or 1.75 to 1 regarding viewers of O'Reilly and Hannity vs. others.

Out of those 4 nights, O'Reilly was beaten by Campbell Brown only on Inauguration Day, to the tune of around 450,000 viewers. His avg the 2 nights previous was over 1 million viewers over 2nd place, and absolutely smashed his nearest competitor on Thurs, after Pres. Bush's Farewell Address (2.4 million more viewers).

Hannity won every night he aired, though was not on Inaugural night due to an Inaugural Ball Special (Anderson Cooper pulled the #1 for that slot)

here is a link for ratings: http://tvbythenumbers.com/

and as a side note, I LOVE Lost, but my show Lie To Me beat them. Were all stunned, and hope to work longer than the next 3 months on the show lol.

Hope that helps ya out....

[LoungeMachine]

That's the FOX "terrorist fist jab" they kvetched over.....