Obama has so far...

[LoungeMachine]

I'm still waiting for your lame respone about that "link" you posted of all the poor terrorists that have been held for "years".

So you can exaggerate more "facts"?



You've already shot any cred in here you hoped to gain.

[LoungeMachine]

It sounds like he had no idea what topic you'd best serve, and they had no such confusion like that with me go figure.

Yet here I am, 4 years later, while you were FIRED, and BANNED by every other site..... go figure.

Thank GOD you have the FREEDOM to post at a LIBRARY at TAXPAYERS expense.

[LoungeMachine]

Let me be clear about this, American government shouldn't stand for anything - it's job should be to legislate and govern, its not supposed to stand for anything.
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LMAO

[TongueNGroove]

So you can exaggerate more "facts"?



You've already shot any cred in here you hoped to gain.

Umm you are the one exagerating facts....You said that was a list of guys in Gitmo for YEARS! First of all, most of them are listed as released! Secondly it says nothing about how long they were in there.

Exagerate much?

Credibility? You have none.

[LoungeMachine]

You obviously were too stupid to read the different files and links listed in the washington post article I linked.

Yes, some have been there for years.


Unlike YOUR claim we have people HERE waiting years for a trial.

moron.

[Guitar Shark]

We also imprisoned thousands of japs (Both Americans and combatants) in WWII untill the war was over.

This is priceless. Yes, let's use the embarrassing example of Japanese internment camps to support what we are doing today.

Did you have a job in the Bush administration or something? This kind of logic just blows me away.

[LoungeMachine]

This is priceless. Yes, let's use the embarrassing example of Japanese internment camps to support what we are doing today.

Did you have a job in the Bush administration or something? This kind of logic just blows me away.

I literally did a double-take when I read his post.

Seriously, how weak is your argument when you have to bring up this in hopes it makes you sound credible?

Hey, we slaughtered the natives, and raped slaves, so what's a little torture in the name of "terror", anyway??

[Nickdfresh]

You guys do realise that there are people in America who sit in jail for years waiting to be tried right? Our court systems are so bogged down that there is no telling how long these Gitmo guys would be sitting in jail before they got a trial even if they are moved to America. How would it be any different?

Um, why would they be in jail if they're not being charged with anything? We've already released 550 detainees from there and many will be launched back to their home countries...

And as for your asinine claims re. people sitting in jail without trial, as Lounge said, name one!

The only difference would be that if you put them in general population they would all most likely be killed by other inmates unless we build them their own prison system (i.e. another Gitmo based here in the States).

There are Islamic fanatics in "general population" such as the Blind Sheik. They disappear into the bowels of the US federal prison system and become nobodies. But only after a fair trial and conviction...

Are you even familiar with the Geneva Conventions? If not, do a little reading about them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions . In particular read the Third Geneva convention.

Wow! You're amazing! You managed to find Google and a Wiki page. I'm so impressed. And yes, I'm familiar with the Geneva Conventions since I was trained in the "Law of Land Warfare" in the Army. And many of its biggest critics are themselves military lawyers...

In order for an enemy to be afforded the rights held under the Third Geneva Convention (Which covers POW's) they have to follow certain rules.

Article 4 defines prisoners of war to include:
4.1.1 Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict and members of militias of such armed forces

Um, at least some were fighting the US assault on the Taliban in Afghanistan using conventional and guerrilla military tactics, not "terrorism."

4.1.2 Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, provided that they fulfill all of the following conditions:

• that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
• that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance (there are limited exceptions to this among countries who observe the 1977 Protocol I);
• that of carrying arms openly;
• that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

Which many of the Taliban did to a "T."

Last I checked, these guys are not following ANY of these rules. They are not sponsored by any country.

They were "sponsored" by their Taliban hosts in the then sovereign gov't of Afghanistan...

Also, we supply medical aid to all wounded enemies. Yah it sucks to have a guy try to blow your head off and then you have to turn around and try to save his life, but we do it.

So? We always have!

These guys are not covered under the Geneva conventions.

Please tell me again how they are not covered since we captured them in a military ground offensive in a foreign country and brought them here?

[Nickdfresh]

This is priceless. Yes, let's use the embarrassing example of Japanese internment camps to support what we are doing today.

Did you have a job in the Bush administration or something? This kind of logic just blows me away.

I think he might have been ideal for the Bush Dept. of "Justice" actually...:D

[LoungeMachine]

Oh shit

And that's why NICK is the boss around here when it comes to military arguments.

[kb and VA are no slouches, either]




I'll be in the bar.....

[Nickdfresh]

100% of those being detained at GITMO have fucked a camel's ass from behind,

Then why aren't you in GITMO?

therefore Allah has beseeched this blessed nation to detain said creatures in 5x11 concrete boxes until they go mental and kill their own selves.

That being said, I'd be keeping them busy with hard labor such as the lessons of history from Auschwitz taught us which is that hard work makes the life sweet.

Then I'd break out the Zyklon B.

Because you're gay and in denial, like most Nazi fucks...

[GAR]

Then why aren't you in GITMO?

Why do you ask, is the food good over there or wtf?

[GAR]

Um, :blah blah blah:

:dissertation:

:podium speech: :spot judgement:

:blah blah blah:

Stop now, you're piety's done quite enough. Quite done!

THANKYEWW

[Nickdfresh]

Why do you ask, is the food good over there or wtf?

The fucking Fruit Loops® ROCK!!

[TongueNGroove]

This is priceless. Yes, let's use the embarrassing example of Japanese internment camps to support what we are doing today.

Did you have a job in the Bush administration or something? This kind of logic just blows me away.

That my friend is how wars are won.

You don't win wars by letting the enemy run loose in your country. And you don't win wars by putting soldiers who kill the enemy on trial. You also don't win wars by moking your government and asking why! Vietnam anyone?


Jack nicholson( Col. Jessup) said it best when he said.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4...eature=related

Truth is, you panzies can't handle the truth of war.