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  • Redballjets88
    Full Member Status

    • Mar 2005
    • 4469

    #16
    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
    No, THE STOCK MARKET KNOWS BEST



    Is someone KEEPING you from investing in an IRA?

    You HAVE freedom.

    Is the SS payroll tax you pay keeping you from that new Lexus?

    Hey some people like to have there cake and eat it too. Not work to get that "cake" then get a crumbs worth of what they put in when they turn 65.
    R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

    hopefully God will ressurect you

    "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


    " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32576

      #17
      Originally posted by Sarge
      I don't think it's an issue anymore. You have to have a job before you worry about contributing into social security. Thus.. people are worried about keeping their jobs or finding work.
      Let's all WORK UNTIL WE DIE!

      Breasts,
      Sarge

      People USED to be able to count on a PENSION, too...

      But the RIGHT has pretty much taken care of THAT too.

      The Middle Class is dying in this country, and it has always been the lifeblood of this country.

      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • Redballjets88
        Full Member Status

        • Mar 2005
        • 4469

        #18
        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
        I really wish you'd do your own thinking sometimes...

        When SS was implemented, there were like 40 people paying in, for every person receiving funds

        Now, due to baby boomers retiring, and the life span improving, it's more like 3 to 1

        Get it?






        Republican GREED, stupid.

        Turn SS over to the stock market, and it becomes a GAMBLE with corporations taking massive profits regardless of the market going up or down.

        It's the VIG paid to the bookie.




        Jesus, kid.

        Why is it greedy to want to keep what is yours?
        R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

        hopefully God will ressurect you

        "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


        " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59648

          #19
          Originally posted by TongueNGroove
          In other words, forget about trying to get well off in America. Why bother? Work your ass off, start a business then the government takes most of it and gives it to those who don't have the gumption you have.

          Ugh, man I dispise socialism.
          Socialism? You mean like bailing out Shttibank so they can continue to fund Saudi Arabia with usury rate interest stolen from their customers?
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32576

            #20
            Originally posted by Redballjets88
            Hey some people like to have there cake and eat it too. Not work to get that "cake" then get a crumbs worth of what they put in when they turn 65.
            ???

            Again, you have no clue what you're talking about.

            Most people take OUT more than they ever put into SS.

            Unless they die first.

            You want to put it into the hands of the people wqho brought us ENRON?????

            There are people who put $300K into their retirement funds for that company, only to end up with $200.00

            But you're worried about SS???

            please

            Originally posted by Kristy
            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
            Originally posted by cadaverdog
            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              #21
              Originally posted by TongueNGroove
              In other words, forget about trying to get well off in America. Why bother? Work your ass off, start a business then the government takes most of it and gives it to those who don't have the gumption you have.

              Ugh, man I dispise socialism.
              My goodness, what a shitty country America is.

              Who are these fuckers that want us to pay for things like basic infrastructure, social services and security? We should just borrow to fund the 50% of the world's defense spending annually we fund and let our pissant grandkids pay it off!

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32576

                #22
                Originally posted by TongueNGroove
                In other words, forget about trying to get well off in America. Why bother? Work your ass off, start a business then the government takes most of it and gives it to those who don't have the gumption you have.

                Ugh, man I dispise socialism.
                Most?

                Really?

                Got any proof, or is this more of your famous EXAGGERATIONS you like to post in here.



                You think SS goes to the lazy?

                Are your grandparents lazy?

                Hypocrite.

                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • Redballjets88
                  Full Member Status

                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4469

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  ???

                  Again, you have no clue what you're talking about.

                  Most people take OUT more than they ever put into SS.

                  Unless they die first.

                  You want to put it into the hands of the people wqho brought us ENRON?????

                  There are people who put $300K into their retirement funds for that company, only to end up with $200.00

                  But you're worried about SS???

                  please

                  Since when is every big company Enron?

                  If everyone got to choose what to do with the money they earned wouldn't it be nice? Why are you so gung-ho about the government having your money at their disposal?
                  R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                  hopefully God will ressurect you

                  "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


                  " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Redballjets88
                    Well if it was so great why is it running dry? Why are multitudes of people wanting to privatize?
                    ...
                    Um, the UK "privatized" their equivalent of SS, and most people think of it's worked about as well as being ass-fucked to death...

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                    • Figs
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2945

                      #25
                      Take out more than they put in...guess you never heard of the the time value of money.

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #26
                        Originally posted by TongueNGroove
                        Ugh, man I dispise socialism.
                        Yet you drive on raods WE paid for....

                        Use the military WE paid for.....

                        Use the fire and police WE pay for.....


                        And then you vote for an adminsitration that gave away A TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS TO CORPORATE WELFARE.

                        But grandma can eat cat food.

                        fucking pathetic.

                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Figs
                          Take out more than they put in...guess you never heard of the the time value of money.
                          LMAO

                          Feel free to post links proving me wrong.

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • Ally_Kat
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7612

                            #28
                            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                            No, THE STOCK MARKET KNOWS BEST



                            Is someone KEEPING you from investing in an IRA?

                            You HAVE freedom.

                            Is the SS payroll tax you pay keeping you from that new Lexus?

                            Originally posted by Redballjets88
                            I'm tired of getting my paychecks and seeing money I made go to a program I'll never see the benefit of.
                            Do you even need that Lexus? Don't run off to buy a new car after you finish paying off your car loan.

                            You can't rely on Social Security anymore. It's not even going to be a drop in the bucket when it comes to my time. I got my personal Roth IRA, I got my IRA with work, my pension with work, and the added money I pay into my pension. I may not be flying around the world, driving a BMW/Lexus/Audi, or planning a wedding overseas like the other NYC teachers, but I'm more prepared than a lot of them close to retirement age.

                            A little sacrifice goes a long way when you're young. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans don't educate themselves about money and banking, and even more don't look into retirement options until they're getting close to 40. Never too early to start.
                            Roth Army Militia

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                            • Figs
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2945

                              #29
                              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                              LMAO

                              Feel free to post links proving me wrong.


                              OK you got me, $100 out of your check in 1990 is worth as much as $100 you'll get back in 2020.

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                              • Nickdfresh
                                SUPER MODERATOR

                                • Oct 2004
                                • 49567

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ally_Kat
                                Do you even need that Lexus? Don't run off to buy a new car after you finish paying off your car loan.

                                ...
                                And for fuck's sake, don't even think about buying another car if you have an existing loan!

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