The KENNEDY Thread

[ELVIS]

You're an idiot...

That man wasnt hit in near the right temple as kennedy was...

Actually it looked as if he was hit in the chest and nothing in the head...


Try again...

[Nickdfresh]

You're an idiot...

That man wasnt hit in near the right temple as kennedy was...

Actually it looked as if he was hit in the chest and nothing in the head...


Try again...

Blow me.

I was talking in general terms, a 6.5mm bullet with not make someone's head snap back with such force. It was probably more his nervous system that anything..

[ELVIS]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you're hit in the forehead or temple there will be a small frontal wound and a huge exit wound as in some of the Kennedy photos I have seen...

[LoungeMachine]

I'm quite sure I could pick any of your heads off from quite a distance...

How brave.

Wonder how you'd fare face to face, hand to hand.

Beat us with a bed pan?

[Seshmeister]

Oh, I'ms gonna brings it, yo!

In any case, Mythbusters has done research on this - and footage of various other shootings show that a small piece of metal moving at hundreds of meters per second does not have enough energy to dramatically knock people backwards and most people hit just drop straight down.

Yes, this guy is tied to a pole, but here is footage of an execution of a German general convicted of war crimes. Warning: Obviously, the footage is somewhat grisly:

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Some odd people posting in that YouTube thread did you get a link from some Nazi re-enactment forum?

It's interesting that the guy executed in the clip is General Anton Dostler who was shot by the US for not giving Geneva Convention protection to US soldiers out of uniform(who were on a sabotage mission).

Every 'mission' war film I remember seeing (Eagle has Landed,Guns of Naverone etc) seemed to say that if you were caught out uniform you were fair game.

Secondly is that the General's defense was the same as George Bush's was in sending people to Gitmo and they shot him...

[GAR]

I'm quite sure I could pick any of your heads off from quite a distance...

For now, please find the JFK simulator sufficient exercise of your skills.

[Seshmeister]

Just re-watched the 20-year-old documentary, THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY.

Just kind of wondering what the current school-of-thought is by conspiracy buffs and the country as a whole. This is an older documentary, and much has happened since. There's the shitty CASE CLOSED book, and the Bugliosi one...but others on the conspiracy side. But any new evidence or theories that have come up?

Will this be Jack the Ripper? Will this be an eternal mystery, or is there some way a more complete and undisputable truth will come out? Man, we're at 45 years now.

There have been at least 2 other threads on this, 1 just last year by which time I seem to have done a 180 degree turn on this...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52493

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13679

[GAR]

You're an idiot

Give him credit, he's trying to make it not so obvious these days.

[Nickdfresh]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you're hit in the forehead or temple there will be a small frontal wound and a huge exit wound as in some of the Kennedy photos I have seen...

The wound was actually the flap of his scalp severed by the bullet...

[GAR]

I've heard it described more like his cranium on a halfshell, trunk-served with a side of brains, but to each his own..

[Nickdfresh]

Some odd people posting in that YouTube thread did you get a link from some Nazi re-enactment forum?

Ha! I hadn't even read the comments...

It's interesting that the guy executed in the clip is General Anton Dostler who was shot by the US for not giving Geneva Convention protection to US soldiers out of uniform(who were on a sabotage mission).

I'm unfamiliar with his specific case, but if that's true it is a bit horrible and hypocritical since the US Army executed dozens of English speaking German soldiers wearing US uniforms and using captured US equipment during the Battle of the Bulge. They were part of Otto Skorzeny's commando unit...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greif

Every 'mission' war film I remember seeing (Eagle has Landed,Guns of Naverone etc) seemed to say that if you were caught out uniform you were fair game.

Secondly is that the General's defense was the same as George Bush's was in sending people to Gitmo and they shot him...

You're right. You can easily see photos of US troops shooting average German soldiers for this!

I know the British were pretty pissed after WWII since a "standing order" issued by Hitler said that all British SAS commandos would be executed, even if they were in BA uniforms...but then the SAS didn't always take prisoners...

[Seshmeister]

http://rapidshare.com/files/11782854/JFKR1.1.rar

Okay, that was from a game called "JFK Reloaded 1.1"

Hah this is good fun apart from the sound which is hellish.

I never realized until now that VP Johnson were in a car in the motorcade.

The challenge in the game is to see if you can get JFK, Jackie O and the two Johnsons.

It's tricky but doable...

[ELVIS]

Gar is correct...

[kwame k]

I believe that Oswald was in fact the lone shooter..whether or not he acted alone in the planning or was coerced into doing it from an outside influence we'll never know, since dead men don't speak.

There was a good documentary with a computer expert that was able to recreate a 3-D model using available video footage from that day.....pretty much showed that Oswald or someone fired the shots from the book dipostory......I'm looking for the show right now.....

[chefcraig]

There was a good documentary with a computer expert that was able to recreate a 3-D model using available video footage from that day.....pretty much showed that Oswald or someone fired the shots from the book dipostory......I'm looking for the show right now.....

That is more than likely the show hideyoursheep and I were discussing earlier. It was more or less updated with the special the Discovery Channel produced and offered in November of last year, which covered much of the same ground yet brought in Myth Busters/C.S.I-like analogs (gel dummies, balloons, watermelon like mediums) to bolster the examination in a full scale environment.