Since no one else has the balls to!

[kwame k]

OK, I hear some of you saying to me, "Bush this, Bush that, Bush is to blame for everything Kwame".........In the spirit of open and honest exchange and the fact that every other post I make, I have to back up with facts.......now it's your turn.......

What 10 things did Bush get right?

Don't even give me the no terra-ist attacks bullshit.....terra-ist attacks world wide went up 300% while Bush was President.

[LoungeMachine]

I did this same thread 4 years ago.......


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Finally BT stepped up and had the balls to post, but even then it was pretty faint praise at best.





They'll point to no "terrorist attack" on US soil since 9/11, ignoring the Anthrax deaths, and attacks on US Congressmen, and the fact we've lost over 4,200 brave men and women, 10's of thousands scarred for life, 100's of thousands of civilans killed, billions wasted, and still we have unsecure borders, food supplies, nuclear faciclities, and ports.

[MUSICMANN]

OK, I hear some of you saying to me, "Bush this, Bush that, Bush is to blame for everything Kwame".........In the spirit of open and honest exchange and the fact that every other post I make, I have to back up with facts.......now it's your turn.......

What 10 things did Bush get right?

Don't even give me the no terra-ist attacks bullshit.....terra-ist attacks world wide went up 300% while Bush was President.

Ill be the first to say. While yes, terrorist attacks went up 300% in other counties, The USA has not been attacked. Bush was President of the USA, not the world. I see this because we forced them to have to defend themselves in their backyard so they couldn't roam free and plan more attacks here.

This one thing he did was the best thing he ever did. I don't live in another country. If some far away wherever gets attacked, it's not gonna stop business in this country. The other way around, we all were part of what happened.

[kwame k]

Nope.....you didn't back it up with facts and links.......show me one credible report or link..........By Bush's own admission....."This is a Global War on Terra" his words dude.

[LoungeMachine]

He's already admitted he doesn't deal with "facts", only opinions.

Facts seem to trip him up, and then I get accused of twisting his words.

[kwame k]

OMG........in backward World......he's some help....of course this is everything Bush did wrong but in backward Land we'll replace wrong with "right"

The postmortems on the presidency of George W. Bush are all wrong. The liberal line is that Bush dangerously weakened America's position in the world and rushed to the aid of the rich and powerful as income inequality worsened. That is twaddle. Conservatives--okay, not all of them--have only been a little bit kinder. They give Bush credit for the surge that saved Iraq, but not for much else.

He deserves better. His presidency was far more successful than not. And there's an aspect of his decision-making that merits special recognition: his courage. Time and time again, Bush did what other presidents, even Ronald Reagan, would not have done and for which he was vilified and abused. That--defiantly doing the right thing--is what distinguished his presidency.

Bush had ten great achievements (and maybe more) in his eight years in the White House, starting with his decision in 2001 to jettison the Kyoto global warming treaty so loved by Al Gore, the environmental lobby, elite opinion, and Europeans. The treaty was a disaster, with India and China exempted and economic decline the certain result. Everyone knew it. But only Bush said so and acted accordingly.

He stood athwart mounting global warming hysteria and yelled, "Stop!" He slowed the movement toward a policy blunder of worldwide impact, providing time for facts to catch up with the dubious claims of alarmists. Thanks in part to Bush, the supposed consensus of scientists on global warming has now collapsed. The skeptics, who point to global cooling over the
past decade, are now heard loud and clear. And a rational approach to the theory of manmade global warming is possible.

Second, enhanced interrogation of terrorists. Along with use of secret prisons and wireless eavesdropping, this saved American lives. How many thousands of lives? We'll never know. But, as Charles Krauthammer said recently, "Those are precisely the elements which kept us safe and which have prevented a second attack."

Crucial intelligence was obtained from captured al Qaeda leaders, including 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, with the help of waterboarding. Whether this tactic--it creates a drowning sensation--is torture is a matter of debate. John McCain and many Democrats say it is. Bush and Vice President Cheney insist it isn't. In any case, it was necessary. Lincoln once made a similar point in defending his suspension of habeas corpus in direct defiance of Chief Justice Roger Taney. "Are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, and the government itself go to pieces, lest that one be violated?" Lincoln asked. Bush understood the answer in wartime had to be no.

Bush's third achievement was the rebuilding of presidential authority, badly degraded in the era of Vietnam, Watergate, and Bill Clinton. He didn't hesitate to conduct wireless surveillance of terrorists without getting a federal judge's okay. He decided on his own how to treat terrorists and where they should be imprisoned. Those were legitimate decisions for which the president, as commander in chief, should feel no need to apologize.

Defending, all the way to the Supreme Court, Cheney's refusal to disclose to Congress the names of people he'd consulted on energy policy was also enormously important. Democratic congressman Henry Waxman demanded the names, but the Court upheld Cheney, 7-2. Last week, Cheney defended his refusal, waspishly noting that Waxman "doesn't call me up and tell me who he's meeting with."

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[kwame k]

He's already admitted he doesn't deal with "facts", only opinions.

Facts seem to trip him up, and then I get accused of twisting his words.

Well, Moderator.....Moderate.......no posts on the 10 things Bush got right that don't have links or verifiable facts.

[MUSICMANN]

Well, Moderator.....Moderate.......no posts on the 10 things Bush got right that don't have links or verifiable facts.

You are telling me to back up my post with the fact that this country hasn't been attacked since 911. Gee, were do i find the facts on that.

[LoungeMachine]

You are telling me to back up my post with the fact that this country hasn't been attacked since 911. Gee, were do i find the facts on that.

Were the Anthrax attacks on US Congressmen not terrorism?

[LoungeMachine]

Well, Moderator.....Moderate.......no posts on the 10 things Bush got right that don't have links or verifiable facts.

I'm not going to edit or delete posts, unless they contain personal information, gay porn, or blatant racist terms.

It's up to you to own these fools.

[MUSICMANN]

Were the Anthrax attacks on US Congressmen not terrorism?

I think you're reaching dude.

[Sarge]

It's easier to think of 100 things Bush did wrong than 10 things he did right.

I consider myself a patriot and I used to consider myself a republican. I even voted for Bush the 1st Election.
I honestly think he was the worst President in the history of the United States and what he did to this country will take years to recover, if we ever do.

[LoungeMachine]

I think you're reaching dude.

How so?

How is a biological attack on US Congressman NOT "terrorism"???

Is it because the perps are white?

To you, only those dark people are terrorists?

[Sarge]

That being said, I supported his policies when he was Commander in Chief, but he isn't Commander in Chief anymore.

[LoungeMachine]

It's easier to think of 100 things Bush did wrong than 10 things he did right.

I consider myself a patriot and I used to consider myself a republican. I even voted for Bush the 1st Election.
I honestly think he was the worst President in the history of the United States and what he did to this country will take years to recover, if we ever do.

And this from a man who was on the Front Lines of this supposed "war on terror"

Thanks for the post, boss.