$410 Billion Omnibus Bill

[kwame k]

Wow, talk about saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.
I remember listening to Bush speak during the election. I even remembering thinking that his was a better foreign policy stance but look at what he said and than what he did. A 1,000% about face. Seeing these clips again you truly wonder how he could of been such a hypocrite.

[LoungeMachine]

Must be his "no nation building" promise.

I'm guessing, I cant watch those old Chimp clips anymore...

It makes me sick to even think about what he managed to destroy in 8 years.

[kwame k]

This cycle will NEVER end, regardless of which party is in power, UNTIL we have serious campaign finance reform, AND STRONGLY REGULATE LOBBYISTS



duh.

There is an inherent conflict of interest when it comes to Lobbyist. A person who serves the government should not be allowed to become a Lobbyist, period. Obama has even restricted the time members of his administration can leave office and become a lobbyist, while not perfect, it's a step in the right direction.

Personally, I think Lobbyist in Washington should be banned. If not banned, or they are formed under the guise of the betterment of the American people, they should be non-profit status and not able to donate to any elected official's campaign. They should also not be a puppet company of any business sector. Of course, by this definition there wouldn't be any Lobbyist.

[FORD]

This cycle will NEVER end, regardless of which party is in power, UNTIL we have serious campaign finance reform, AND STRONGLY REGULATE LOBBYISTS



duh.

...and dismantle the consolidated corporate whore media.

Without the whore media, it's entirely possible that the 2008 Presidential race would have been Dennis Kucinich vs Ron Paul.

A lot of real issues would have been debated, and either outcome would have seen the end of the bullshit occupations of Iraq AND Afghanistan.

[LoungeMachine]

Public Financing for all National Elections.

[kwame k]

Public Financing for all National Elections.

......and a cap on expenditures too.

[MUSICMANN]

Wow, talk about saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.
I remember listening to Bush speak during the election. I even remembering thinking that his was a better foreign policy stance but look at what he said and than what he did. A 1,000% about face. Seeing these clips again you truly wonder how he could of been such a hypocrite.

Pre 911

[Combat Ready]

Jesus, I don't know Sadaist. I hate the fact that during the last 8 years our government has damn near doubled and now it will only get bigger. As much as I get labeled a Left Wing Liberal, I am all for small effective government, fiscal responsibility, and cutting the National Deficit.

Our leaders in Washington are not doing this and yes we can look backwards to the causes but the reality of the situation is......there's no going back now. We've been on this path for too long now for the beast to be reined in.

I do like the fact that Obama is at least talking about trying to reduce the deficit. This is something that has never been discussed in 8 years, so that's refreshing. Will it really happen, who fucking knows, time will tell.

The fucking thing is......we are the ones getting screwed here and have been getting screwed for well over 30 years and maybe longer. I truly believe this era will be known as the Greed Era. You know honestly, it's my fault as well as the rest of the voting American public and those people who are able to vote but are unwilling. We put these fucking crooks into positions of power and continue to vote them in. No matter how much they don't represent our interests they keep getting elected. No third party has stood a chance and We The People allow that.

If you put a crook in charge of the cash register and then are shocked that money comes up missing, who's really at fault or the fool.

Great post K--"small effective government, fiscal responsibility, and cutting the National Deficit". Music to my ears.

Your point regarding a lack of a legit 3rd party option is spot on...In my opinion.

Man--I hate agreeing with left wing libs....

If we could just follow thru and throw the "lifers" out of congress (both sides) we'd be on our way. The voters on both sides have proven for decades to be little more than lemmings.

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[LoungeMachine]

Pre 911

Meaning what?

[FORD]

Meaning what?

Meaning that's the standard Repuke defense for all of Chimpy's failures and lies.

[MUSICMANN]

Meaning what?

Meaning that, before 911, his policies were much more rose colored. After the attack he went into a war time mode and that led to taking a much harder and more aggressive stance in his policy making.

Of course this led to Afganistan and Iraq, which made us more hated in alot of places across this globe. It still doesn't change the fact that on his watch, he made government bigger and piled up a huge deficit for this country.

He preached being a conservative, but he really wasn't.

[Combat Ready]

Gotta' love it. Only at the Roth Army (or countdown with KO) would a $410 Billion Omnibus Bill thread lead to fuck the repukes and Chimpy too. You guys are fucking ruthless....Formidable debaters--but ruthless. I guess its part of the Front Line attraction to begin with.

[ELVIS]

You guys are fucking ruthless....Formidable debaters--but ruthless. I guess its part of the Front Line attraction to begin with.

Exactly right...

I can't stand most of the pussy-assed websites who censor your OPINION!

And there's nothing with a good political ass-kicking while making a point or being pointed out when you're WRONG!

Asshole...

[Combat Ready]

Exactly right...

I can't stand most of the pussy-assed websites who censor your OPINION!

And there's nothing with a good political ass-kicking while making a point or being pointed out when you're WRONG!

Asshole...

Agreed...Fuck you too E!

[kwame k]

That's much better.........all this agreeing and shit

Now fuck off you Neo-Cons!