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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Single Payer could be public or private...Correct? What form(s) are you advocating?
For example: The Veterans Administration is a single-payer system. I have no problem paying taxes for this. But--do the taxpayers not fund it?
The VA is an example, as is Medicare. Both run reasonably well, when competent people are in charge. Neither are operated for a profit motive. Unlike your typical "Mutual of Wall Street Whores Insurance Co."
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
I would consider the VA socialized Health Care, it's ran by the government and the employees work for the government.
A single Payer Health Care System, to me, was like the one they tried to do in Pennsylvania. SB300 in the Senate and HB1660 in the House.
I'm not exactly sure, that's why I asked. This is the "Wikipedia" spin:
According to Princeton University health economist Uwe E. Reinhardt, Medicare, Medicaid, and SCHIP represent "forms of 'social insurance' coupled with a largely private health-care delivery system" rather than forms of "socialized medicine." In contrast, he describes the Veterans Administration healthcare system as a pure form of socialized medicine because it is "owned, operated and financed by government."[21]
The Veterans Administration is a single-payer system and provides excellent quality, said Reinhardt. In a peer-reviewed paper published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, researchers of the RAND Corp. reported that the quality of care received by Veterans Administration patients scored significantly higher overall than did comparable metrics for patients in the rest of the U.S. health system.[22]
Some writers describe publicly administered health care systems as "single-payer plans." Some writers have described any system of health care which intends to cover the entire population, such as voucher plans, as "single-payer plans,"[23] although this is an uncommon usage
If it's ran by the government, staffed by the government and funded by the government.....don't know about you but that's my definition of Socialized.
I personally have no problem with that. We make a contract with our Soldiers and they may have to ultimately lay down their lives fighting whatever cause our government tells them to. The least our Government can do is make sure they have decent Health Care.
Originally posted by vandeleur
E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D
The difference between the VA and what we would have under HR676, for example, is that the VA has their own hospitals. I won't get into conditions at Walter Reed or the things that have happened at Madigan, but again, that probably depends a lot on who's in charge. And the BCE, while exploding the "defense" budget itself, did pathetically little for the VA. Which is ironic, considering how many more veterans they created with their stupid fucking wars.
But hospitals wouldn't cease to exist under a single-payer system. More like the insurance company extortion.
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
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