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  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    #16
    Groucho? or Harpo?


    Marx was a pussy.

    You want real change, put me in charge. :D

    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59949

      #17
      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
      Groucho? or Harpo?


      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Combat Ready
        Foot Soldier
        • Mar 2007
        • 572

        #18
        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
        Groucho? or Harpo?


        Marx was a pussy.

        You want real change, put me in charge. :D

        Groucho....You bet your life!

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        • LoungeMachine
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 32576

          #19
          Say the magic word, get Single Payer HealthCare!!!

          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • Combat Ready
            Foot Soldier
            • Mar 2007
            • 572

            #20
            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
            Say the magic word, get Single Payer HealthCare!!!

            Megatax? Is that a word?

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            • LoungeMachine
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 32576

              #21
              Originally posted by Combat Ready
              Megatax? Is that a word?
              That's the myth the Right wants you to believe.

              Single Payer Health Care wouldn't cost taxpayers a dime...

              It would save them billions.

              Do you understand the difference between "socialized medicine" and Single Payer Healthcare?



              I'm guessing not....
              Originally posted by Kristy
              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
              Originally posted by cadaverdog
              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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              • BITEYOASS
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6530

                #22
                315/400 EXTREEEEEEME PROGRESSIVE!!! Watch the fuck out! Eugene V. Debs ain't got shit on me! :D
                Last edited by BITEYOASS; 03-14-2009, 06:01 PM.

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                • Combat Ready
                  Foot Soldier
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 572

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  That's the myth the Right wants you to believe.

                  Single Payer Health Care wouldn't cost taxpayers a dime...

                  It would save them billions.

                  Do you understand the difference between "socialized medicine" and Single Payer Healthcare?



                  I'm guessing not....
                  Single Payer could be public or private...Correct? What form(s) are you advocating?

                  For example: The Veterans Administration is a single-payer system. I have no problem paying taxes for this. But--do the taxpayers not fund it?

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59949

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Combat Ready
                    Single Payer could be public or private...Correct? What form(s) are you advocating?

                    For example: The Veterans Administration is a single-payer system. I have no problem paying taxes for this. But--do the taxpayers not fund it?
                    The VA is an example, as is Medicare. Both run reasonably well, when competent people are in charge. Neither are operated for a profit motive. Unlike your typical "Mutual of Wall Street Whores Insurance Co."
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • kwame k
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 11302

                      #25
                      I would consider the VA socialized Health Care, it's ran by the government and the employees work for the government.

                      A single Payer Health Care System, to me, was like the one they tried to do in Pennsylvania.
                      SB300 in the Senate and HB1660 in the House.
                      Originally posted by vandeleur
                      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                      • Combat Ready
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 572

                        #26
                        Originally posted by kwame k
                        I would consider the VA socialized Health Care, it's ran by the government and the employees work for the government.

                        A single Payer Health Care System, to me, was like the one they tried to do in Pennsylvania.
                        SB300 in the Senate and HB1660 in the House.
                        I'm not exactly sure, that's why I asked. This is the "Wikipedia" spin:

                        According to Princeton University health economist Uwe E. Reinhardt, Medicare, Medicaid, and SCHIP represent "forms of 'social insurance' coupled with a largely private health-care delivery system" rather than forms of "socialized medicine." In contrast, he describes the Veterans Administration healthcare system as a pure form of socialized medicine because it is "owned, operated and financed by government."[21]

                        The Veterans Administration is a single-payer system and provides excellent quality, said Reinhardt. In a peer-reviewed paper published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, researchers of the RAND Corp. reported that the quality of care received by Veterans Administration patients scored significantly higher overall than did comparable metrics for patients in the rest of the U.S. health system.[22]

                        Some writers describe publicly administered health care systems as "single-payer plans." Some writers have described any system of health care which intends to cover the entire population, such as voucher plans, as "single-payer plans,"[23] although this is an uncommon usage

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                        • kwame k
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 11302

                          #27
                          If it's ran by the government, staffed by the government and funded by the government.....don't know about you but that's my definition of Socialized.
                          I personally have no problem with that. We make a contract with our Soldiers and they may have to ultimately lay down their lives fighting whatever cause our government tells them to. The least our Government can do is make sure they have decent Health Care.
                          Originally posted by vandeleur
                          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59949

                            #28
                            The difference between the VA and what we would have under HR676, for example, is that the VA has their own hospitals. I won't get into conditions at Walter Reed or the things that have happened at Madigan, but again, that probably depends a lot on who's in charge. And the BCE, while exploding the "defense" budget itself, did pathetically little for the VA. Which is ironic, considering how many more veterans they created with their stupid fucking wars.

                            But hospitals wouldn't cease to exist under a single-payer system. More like the insurance company extortion.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49648

                              #29
                              339...

                              And for the record: on that other political "spectrum" test, I always come out as a left-wing, LIBERTARIAN!!!
                              Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-14-2009, 08:28 PM.

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                              • Combat Ready
                                Foot Soldier
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 572

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                                339...
                                I always come out as a left-wing, LIBERTARIAN!!!
                                You're half-way home Nick!

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