Derivative debt equal $1.144 Quadrillion.

[Seshmeister]

I don't know what this big 'New world order' fear is that Americans have.

Firstly it seems cool on Star Trek.

Secondly no more wars.

Third how exactly would this new order be worse than the politicians you already have?

And fourthly it isn't going to happen in our lifetimes so don't worry about it.

[ELVIS]

As soon as a world currency replaces the Dollar, that will be the beginning of the New World Order...

[LoungeMachine]

ELVIS is stocking canned goods......

:D

C'mon E.

[ELVIS]

No, they don't last long enough...

I'm gonna buy some seeds with my friends and grow some food...

[GAR]

But I still lean to the idea that this has all been planned out decades ago and now it's strike time...

I never admit to being armed, but once they defeat your power to arm yourself and fight back it is all over for this country's sovereignty.

1.4 quadrill.. whoa

[Big Train]

The solution is as simple as unplugging them. They do need to be illegal to core assets, because the variations are too complex and the results vary too wildly. I think they should still be allowed for small deals.

This is a huge mess and was not followed, because each version was its own formula and it took a finance geek and a high powered computer just to understand them. The senators who just voted to throw all this money at it have no fucking clue. Until you understand the issues, which nobody, much less Geithner, can claim to at this point, you can't throw money (which we literally just did) to make it better. We are still far from that part, but nobody is doing the hard work just to understand what the fuck just happened.

Our enemies are using this to their advantage. Russia openly fucking with us saying the world needs a new currency and their parking of ships and planes next door. China saying they are "worried" about our money and may have to start calling in chips. This is bad. Obama needs to show some balls right now...at not at fuckin AIG

[ELVIS]

Dude they know what's going on...

Watching Congress and the president blame the housing market proves that to me...

They let it happen on purpose...

[Nitro Express]

I don't know what this big 'New world order' fear is that Americans have.

Firstly it seems cool on Star Trek.

Secondly no more wars.

Third how exactly would this new order be worse than the politicians you already have?

And fourthly it isn't going to happen in our lifetimes so don't worry about it.

No More Wars? They said that after the US Civil War, World War I, and World War II. Since when is consolidating power a good thing? Most peeps don't act too benevolently when they have that kind of power. Japan bailed their bankers out and it did nothing for them but put them in more debt.

[Nitro Express]

Dude they know what's going on...

Watching Congress and the president blame the housing market proves that to me...

They let it happen on purpose...

Yup. They also want us to fight amongst ourselves. They want caos in the streets. It gives them an excuse to clamp down on things and take away more freedoms. In fact, if Obama becomes unpopular and the people hate him, they will throw him under the train and bring in the next savior. With a nation full of greedy, I'm entitled shills, who have the morality of a baboon they are easily duped and manipulated. Hitler would be having a hard on over this.

Basically the bankers took over Washington. That is what has happened. It's clear as day.

[LoungeMachine]

Basically the bankers took over Washington. That is what has happened. It's clear as day.

This I agree with 100%

But it happened on BushCO's watch.

It's unclear to me exactly what Obama, Inc. is doing....

[Nitro Express]

Except Hitler liked spit, polish, and discipline. If he looked at America today he would go, "Holy fuck shit! These are my subjects!? I'm fucking doomed. How am I going to take over the world with such fat, lazy, dumb asses?"

[LoungeMachine]

How am I going to take over the world with such fat, lazy, dumb asses?"

Sounds like the same issue facing the RNC these days.... :D

[Nitro Express]

This I agree with 100%

But it happened on BushCO's watch.

It's unclear to me exactly what Obama, Inc. is doing....

Obama has the potential to be a good president. Yes, he inherited a mess and there is no room for mistakes and he has made huge mistakes into his presidency. What Obama has to do is unify the country and get a real economy going. Growing the government bigger isn't going to do it. Taxes will only cause revolts later.

He needs to go after the bankers hard instead of rewarding them and let the free market adjust the mess. We have to take our govt. back from the bankers or they will ruin us and the world.

We need a president will balls, intelligence, and integrity. We need a president of George Washington type caliber now, not the typical political whore.

But you are right. I'm not exactly sure what Obama is. But the president can send us to the bottom and help pull us out. One little mistake can fuck us good. No room for error here.

[LoungeMachine]

Agreed.



But let's not forget this is the SECOND Bush Recession we've inherited.....

[Nitro Express]

Who will become top of the food chain is the drug cartels. Drugs will always keep their value and you can always trade them anywhere. Plus, they have the hard hitting weapons and are organized. When paper money goes to shit, drugs will still buy you anything you want. Pussy, military weapons, loyal subjects to exploit. The only thing that can take these guys down is a government and ha! The US Government is one of the biggest drug/weapon runners in the world.