Obama climate plan could cost $2 trillion

[Angel]

massive gas emissions inside the atmosphere create warmer temps

The way my stomach's acting this week, we should be about 20 degrees warmer by now!

[mwsully]

Which is why we need stiff tariffs here.

If a t-shirt costs $2 to make in the US, but can be imported for $1, then a $1 tariff needs to be applied to take away that incentive.

We're already PAYING higher hidden prices/taxes.

The interest on the money we're borrowing from China is a [hidden] tax on the goods we import.

Lounge, could you please run for some kind of U.S. government office (preferably President) and begin kicking people's asses there? You make so much sense. I truly wish more people had your insight.

[Nickdfresh]

What will the cost be when flood waters from melting arctic ice come into the Eastern and Western seaboards?

[mwsully]

There has to be shake ups and sacrifices

I don't know much about economics, politics. I'm pretty new to it all, but I do keep my eyes and ears open.

The way I see it, this country cannot survive without some MAJOR changes...some not too pretty. What I fear is whether we have competent enough people to make the necessary ones.

[FORD]

What will the cost be when flood waters from melting arctic ice come into the Eastern and Western seaboards?

Hopefully Manhattan can flood when all the Wall Street Whores are at work. Or better yet, at lunch time when they're outside.

[LoungeMachine]

What will the cost be when flood waters from melting arctic ice come into the Eastern and Western seaboards?

Europe thrown into another ice age?

Is there a downside I'm missing?

[Nitro Express]

More sun activity? I'm truly speechless.................Why do fools like you refuse to realize that massive gas emissions inside the atmosphere create warmer temps? That's why it's called the greenhouse effect.

Or maybe another sun appeared out of nowhere that only you know about.

Dude. It's called the solar cycle and has caused climate change and polarity shifts way before the industrial revolution happened. The sun has a much larger effect on the earth than we do. I'm all for getting off of fossil fuel but the global warming hype is used to consolidate industry and raise taxes like the carbon tax. It's a dupe based on a natural cycle we have very little to do with.

Solar cycle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Nitro Express]

The planet is fine. It's going no where. The people are fucked. George Carlin.

[Nitro Express]

Europe thrown into another ice age?

Is there a downside I'm missing?

That's the next cycle. Some say we have already entered the global cooling phase. It has more to do with the electromagnetic field of the earth which has a huge effect on the atmosphere one the electromagnetic field increases and we get high altitude cloud layers, we will cool and the ice will come back. Possibly more than we want. It's going to be fun to see the piss ant people try and control it; especially, when solar storms take out the power grid by shorting out the transformers. Our technology can hid the shiter quick and without electricity we are not going to be telling Mother Nature much.

[Combat Ready]

Another point of view; as detailed in Pravda.

Carbon Communism

I think that the CO2-caused Global Warming theory is false and unproven junk science.

But let’s suppose for a moment that the CO2 equals Global Warming equation is real. The wealthy elitists James Hansen, Al Gore, Tony Blair, Barack Obama, and the other high-profile cheerleaders for CO2 reduction are asking the poor and middle classes to suffer the consequences of a radical shutdown of global commerce and energy production in order to ‘save the planet’ from Global Warming. They want to make serfs of the masses of working people, while a privileged elite will be permitted to continue living in high style with a much larger ‘carbon footprint’ than the un-entitled lower classes.

We should never let that happen. The only way that ‘carbon rationing’ should be allowed is by assigning the exact same carbon limit to all people everywhere. Al Gore, Barack Obama, a London cabbie, and a Kalahari Bushman should all be assigned exactly the same number of ‘carbon credits’, period. Let them trade their credits with each other, but everyone should be restricted to the same limited ‘carbon credit’ allowance. The long-term ultimate effect of this would be an economic leveling of society; essentially global Communism. Under such a system, no one would be able to accumulate an excess of personal property or wealth because they could never accumulate enough ‘carbon credits’ to do so.

When Hansen, Gore, Blair, and Obama give up their patrician incomes and lifestyles and restrict their own ‘carbon footprint’ to the level of the common labourer or office worker, I will begin to believe that they are sincere about preventing Global Warming. Their obvious unwillingness to do what they are asking the rest of us to do proves that they are not sincere. They want the common people to sacrifice their lives to prevent Global Warming, while the wealthy retain their high-carbon consuming and producing privileges.

We cannot permit a privileged elite to enjoy a ‘high-carbon’ lifestyle while the poor are restricted by law to a ‘low-carbon’ lifestyle. Any effort by any government to impose carbon rationing with preferential treatment to any class of people should be seen as sufficient reason for an all-out French-style revolution in which the majority population dispossess the elitists of their wealth, their positions of power, and their privilege. In a world that is constantly threatened by Global Warming, we cannot allow a greedy few to consume or produce in excess of the average ‘carbon footprint’ of the world’s population as a whole.

Barack Obama keeps the temperature at 78 degrees Fahrenheit in the Oval Office while telling the rest of us to turn our thermostats down. James Hansen has received grants amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote the Global Warming theory. Al Gore has invested heavily in the ‘carbon trading’ brokerage business. All of these men jet around the world, live in oversized houses, and ride in limousines. If the common people are to be required by law to reduce our ‘carbon footprint’, we need to demand that our leaders and the wealthy elite be restricted to exactly the same carbon allowance as everyone else. We are not all together in the fight against Global Warming unless everyone is required to make the same sacrifices by sharing an equal ‘carbon footprint’ and an equal ‘carbon ration’, which should be assigned equally to every living person in the entire world. We need to hold the elitists’ feet to the fire and require them to make exactly the same sacrifices as the rest of humanity.

Individual carbon limits and carbon rationing? Bring them on. Viva la Revolucion!



Gregory Fegel

Carbon Communism - Pravda.Ru