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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35755

    Homeopathy Kills Baby

    'Homeopathy' Parents Charged Over Baby Daughter Gloria's Death In Australia | World News | Sky News


    Homeopathy Couple 'Let Their Baby Girl Die'

    12:16pm UK, Wednesday May 06, 2009

    A couple in Australia have gone on trial charged with manslaughter after their nine-month-old baby died of septicaemia and malnutrition.

    Baby Gloria's life could have been saved if her parents had sought conventional medical treatment for her even days before her death, a court has heard.

    Thomas Sam, 42, and his 36-year-old wife Manju apparently shunned conventional treatment for their daughter's severe eczema in favour of homeopathic remedies.

    The couple have pleaded not guilty in New South Wales state Supreme Court.

    The Indian-born, university-educated pair face a maximum of 25 years each in prison if convicted.

    Prosecutor Mark Tedeschi told the jury the Sams admitted Gloria to a Sydney hospital only three days before she died in May 2002.

    He said "her life and her health could have been saved" with earlier proper medical attention.

    The two parents were almost totally fixated on their social obligations - visiting people and traveling around - to the exclusion of any concern about Gloria's deteriorating state of health.

    Prosecutor Mark Tedeschi

    Any reasonable parent would have sought urgent conventional medical help as the child's health steadily deteriorated over the final five months of her life due to severe eczema, Mr Tedeschi said.

    Instead, Thomas Sam, a college lecturer in homeopathy, apparently continued to consult homeopaths and natural medicine practitioners as his daughter lost 20% of her body weight.

    She weighed just 11 pounds and 11 ounces when she died.

    The parents rarely consulted conventional doctors and never contacted a skin specialist after a nurse noticed their previously healthy baby had developed severe eczema at age four, the prosecutor said.

    The court also heard Manju Sam, a computer professional, disregarded a doctor's advice not to take the child to India to visit relatives in the final three months of her life.

    "The two parents were almost totally fixated on their social obligations - visiting people and traveling around - to the exclusion of any concern about Gloria's deteriorating state of health," Mr Tedeschi said.

    Homeopathy is a therapy based on a theory that diseases can be successfully treated with minute doses of substances that cause reactions in the human body similar to the disease symptoms.

    Gloria became malnourished battling against frequent infections that invaded her bloodstream through skin broken by her severe rashes. The trial continues.
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35755

    #2
    I guess it's just a Darwin death but people should be taught in schools that homeopathy is a hocus pocus bullshit superstition built on incorrect assumptions guessed at in the 19th century and not a real medical treatment.

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    • Igosplut
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Jan 2004
      • 2794

      #3
      Just the kinda shit I'd like to put my health in charge of......

      Just the other day a family friend (Christian science) was going on about another persons health problems (heart surgery, ect) calling them "Accidents". Me, never paying much attention to religion said "What the fuck are you talking about a heart surgery bein an accident? You poison him or something?" Needless to say, that went over big. Fucked up shit, "Well lets just PRAY that big fatty tumor right outta your body!"

      On the flip side she DID take her dog to the vet, instead of trying to pray his sickness away.....
      Chainsaw Muthuafucka

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        I was diagnosed with eczema as a kid and basically learned to live with until I went to nursing school. After I saw a few doctors and personally thinking I had lupus or psoriasis, it was concluded that my psoriasis suspicions were correct although to this day i'm not sure...

        I have learned that the best treatment has been diet. It was at it's worst when I used to drink, whick is commonly documented...

        But the treatment for eczema is nearly the same as psoriasis, and in many cases, treatment has little effect. The treatment usually consists of corticosteroids or immunomodulators like tacrolimus which is also a anti-rejection drug used for organ transplant patients. Ultraviolet light is also a treatment. But each of these treatments only lasts for the duration of the treatment and the symptoms can be worse following treatment...

        Petrochemicals (such as Tide in my case) can either trigger or cause an outbreak. Plain old soap helps, althouth many people don't know what "soap" is anymore...

        Homeopathy is a good way to go and although homeopathy is in the title, it is completely left out of the article...

        Eczema seems to be more prevelant across the pond, probably due to high alcohol consumption...:D

        But I would like to know what homeopathy methods were employed by the parents...

        All I read in that story was: "The two parents were almost totally fixated on their social obligations - visiting people and traveling around - to the exclusion of any concern about...blah blah blah."

        But reading that the young girl was 11 pounds and 11 ounces when she died, is cause for alarm and suspicion of neglect or abuse, regardless of a diagnosis of eczema...


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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59647

          #5
          Eczema? Who the hell dies from eczema?
          Eat Us And Smile

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            That's part of my point...

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            • kwame k
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Feb 2008
              • 11302

              #7
              My guess it's malnutrition, too.
              Originally posted by vandeleur
              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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              • Guitar Shark
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7579

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                I was diagnosed with eczema as a kid and basically learned to live with until I went to nursing school. After I saw a few doctors and personally thinking I had lupus or psoriasis, it was concluded that my psoriasis suspicions were correct although to this day i'm not sure...

                I have learned that the best treatment has been diet. It was at it's worst when I used to drink, whick is commonly documented...

                But the treatment for eczema is nearly the same as psoriasis, and in many cases, treatment has little effect. The treatment usually consists of corticosteroids or immunomodulators like tacrolimus which is also a anti-rejection drug used for organ transplant patients. Ultraviolet light is also a treatment. But each of these treatments only lasts for the duration of the treatment and the symptoms can be worse following treatment...

                Petrochemicals (such as Tide in my case) can either trigger or cause an outbreak. Plain old soap helps, althouth many people don't know what "soap" is anymore...

                Homeopathy is a good way to go and although homeopathy is in the title, it is completely left out of the article...

                Eczema seems to be more prevelant across the pond, probably due to high alcohol consumption...:D

                But I would like to know what homeopathy methods were employed by the parents...

                All I read in that story was: "The two parents were almost totally fixated on their social obligations - visiting people and traveling around - to the exclusion of any concern about...blah blah blah."

                But reading that the young girl was 11 pounds and 11 ounces when she died, is cause for alarm and suspicion of neglect or abuse, regardless of a diagnosis of eczema...


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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35755

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    But I would like to know what homeopathy methods were employed by the parents...
                    What possible difference does it make which placebo they used?

                    Cheers

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      Because proper nutrition and homeopathic remedies have proven to be useful...

                      AND because Homeopathy is in your title but not found in your article...


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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35755

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Eczema? Who the hell dies from eczema?
                        She died of septicaemia, chronic eczema and malnutrition.

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35755

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          Because proper nutrition and homeopathic remedies have proven to be useful...

                          AND because Homeopathy is in your title but not found in your article...


                          Yes it is, the article says they shunned treatment in favor of homeopathy.

                          Obviously nutrition is important but homeopathy is pretend treatment. It has no medical effect. People may sometimes feel a bit better because of a placebo affect but it has no effect on the illness or condition because it can't.

                          A glass of water does not have a memory.

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Well, eczema is not in any linked with malnutrition...

                            You become septic through infection, which can start with a break in the integrity of the skin, which is associated with eczema, but a four year old at 11 lbs sounds like malnutrition, neglect and the like...

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              Yes it is, the article says they shunned treatment in favor of homeopathy.
                              How did they treat the malnutrition, by not feeding her ??

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