Time for the VAT ?

[Big Train]

I didn't "need" you to. You just claimed to have done that, when in fact you hadn't. And I'm always happy.

I'm glad your happy, you should be, lots of good things happening for you. I did not "claim" (please show me where I did) anything, you did.

It's been "considered" before.

But not very seriously...


I can't. I have no answers. I'm looking for them, not providing them.

And let's close US [corporate] Tax Code loopholes, k?

It's a start.

Maybe you can read my orig post in it's entirety now and see that we agree on that. When you get a chance, K?

[thome]

I know two things about Taxes.

1. We the Americans are taxed first on our income..25 - 42 % depending on how you claim and how much we make.
a. inside this tax is, street repairs, old age fund,senators and congressman wages etc.. general state and federal jobs.... things.

2.Then we are taxed on all consumer goods we purchase they claim this is the tax the retailer needs to be taxed on -because that is his income-...but they,(the seller) just pass that onto us, by inreasing the sales price of whatever goods we are buying from them.

The following is just a few statments..

Increased inflation (consumer goods prices) will not pay the national debt.

Taxing the "Rich" will not do anything possitive.

Taxing "some" more, on the larger amount they make is communism.

Taxation without Representation, plain and simple.

Taxing "some" less, at some income level is already done if you make, I believe, less than 12,000 per year, "the poverty level". They pay -0- taxes.
Except on -everything- they buy.

Here's the Rub....The less income people will have even less buying power.


Best scenario ...Steamline the goverment, and stop accepting that the highest levels of american bussinessmen, cant balance a end of month federal statment book.

Does anyone know what happends when 1/2 of the population is paying the wages of the other half....I leave that up to you all to figure out.

Our issue isn't taxes it's what -THEY- do with them that is not neccesary.

[Seshmeister]

In the UK VAT allows us to get taxed at the third level - you may have all of this ahead of you.

1) We get taxed on our income
2) We get taxed on gas at about $3 a gallon.
3) Now here is the clever bit, we then have to pay VAT on the petrol tax making the total cost over 2/3rds tax or 200% tax.

[GAR]

And let's close US [corporate] Tax Code loopholes, k?

It's a start.

Deporting all the illegal aliens is a much better start on flushing the waste from the entitlements roster. In California alone it is estimated to be 10 billion combined of both State and Fed entitlements and they're already draining it off.

Also because of it our quality of life rating hovers just above 20% from what our postWW2 generation had, under Obama it's going to be more than halved from that.

SO if you're not busting your ass 24/7 to keep your head afloat, you'll be drawing welfare benefits.

This black fucker is the worst president EVER.

[GAR]

In the UK VAT allows us to get taxed at the third level - you may have all of this ahead of you.

1) We get taxed on our income
2) We get taxed on gas at about $3 a gallon.
3) Now here is the clever bit, we then have to pay VAT on the petrol tax making the total cost over 2/3rds tax or 200% tax.

But your Monarchy and all the aristocratic clique draw six-figure allowances. How about ending that already.. the fuedal system in europe went away along time ago.

[Seshmeister]

If you don't know anything about the UK or Europe why do you keep posting about it?

Especially nowadays with the interweb and so on.

[GAR]

Maybe I won't be happy until the Royals get the guillotine?

[Nickdfresh]

Deporting all the illegal aliens is a much better start on flushing the waste from the entitlements roster. In California alone it is estimated to be 10 billion combined of both State and Fed entitlements and they're already draining it off.

Also because of it our quality of life rating hovers just above 20% from what our postWW2 generation had, under Obama it's going to be more than halved from that.

SO if you're not busting your ass 24/7 to keep your head afloat, you'll be drawing welfare benefits.

This black fucker is the worst president EVER.

Most illegals pay taxes - probably more than you!!

And good luck deporting between 10 and 20 million people, dummy....

[GAR]

You don't pay income tax with fake or stolen ID's now come on..

[FORD]

You don't pay income tax with fake or stolen ID's now come on..

Which would mean an employer was paying them cash "under the table", meaning said employer was himself a tax dodge. And that's probably taking a lot more from the tax revenue than the "goddamn forriners" themselves are.

[sadaist]

Most illegals pay taxes

On purchases, yes. But not on income. Nor do they pay for expenses like health care or auto insurance, and many seem to enjoy the prisons here. They take out much, much more than they contribute.

And good luck deporting between 10 and 20 million people, dummy....

Well, we could start by preventing any more from sneaking in, get rid of the criminals, then see where we stand.

[GAR]

When I was up in Des Moines, the local paper has an unreal police blotter.. it lists the names, and the addresses like this:

Carla Jimenez, 33, arrest for possesion of narcotics and sale to distribute, 112 main st.

Pablo Mendicinas, 23, arrest for public intoxication and spousal assault, 203 Hansen Drive

over and over, over and over at a 5 to 1 ratio - illegal aliens causing 80percent of all the fuckups in the midwest.

I wasn't shocked at my count, I'd have my coffee and read what caught my eye being the offender's home addresses.

The usual stuff in Los Angeles: driving no license or insurance, passing checks fake ID, shoplifting arrest with 2 accomplices (gang theft) over at the Walmart and the Jeweler's prior to that.

OH speaking of Jewelry Shops being hit, when I was in Scottdale they were talking on the news about a gang like that of illegals, "tunneling" thru one business into another.. they get into a nonalarmed retail such as a coinop laundramatte, then cut the telephone lines in both adjacent buildings and burrow thru to the neighboring business.

This group is on trial for doing like 30 friggen businesses, the happy hispanic you guessed it, contributing to all our thankful toleration of his criminal presence.

[sadaist]

To be fair, many Mexicans do come here for a better life and are very hard working. My apartment in the 90's, I lived next door to the nicest family. Husband, wife, 3 kids and I think an aunt all in a 2 bedroom apartment. One Christmas I was alone & they came over with tons of food. They worked a ton. I also always see the guys with the lawn mowing services busting ass around the neighborhood now. But it seems for every decent Mexican that comes across, you get one criminal. The odds just aren't good enough to allow this to continue the way it has.

[GAR]

But it seems for every decent Mexican that comes across, you get one criminal.

WRONG you get five.

That one, will knock up another. They will live together with this new one, plus the two other babies from a few other dalliances she's had to boost her Obamulus check.

She'll come home from cleaning offices at night to the cheater, and he hasn't fed the kids so there's violence and they both get carted off to jail, with the three kids going to foster homes till they run away at 13 to join gangs and shoot other immigrants, then knocking up more girls once they come of age repeating this cycle.

But it's okay, because they can lie to the cops but they do not lie to the fag priest they unburden the confession to before mass.

I used to live in an apartment full of 'em, packed in like roaches called "clown houses" here's a group of 19 illegals living in one home in Portland

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It's just disgusting.

[sadaist]

like roaches

La cucaracha, la cucaracha,
ya no puede caminar
porque no tiene, porque le falta
marijuana que fumar.