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  • letsrock
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    • Mar 2007
    • 1595

    #16
    Interesting

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    • sadaist
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jul 2004
      • 11625

      #17
      Originally posted by letsrock
      The guy holding the AK-47 next to the ballot box will have the biggest influence.
      Like the Black Panthers holding batons at a polling station during our most recent election.
      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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      • jhale667
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 20929

        #18
        Originally posted by sadaist
        Like the Black Panthers holding batons at a polling station during our most recent election.
        Huh? Where the fuck is your polling place...Compton?
        Originally posted by conmee
        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

        That is all.

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        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


        Originally posted by Isaac R.
        Then it's really true??

        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
        Originally posted by eddie78
        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59650

          #19
          Originally posted by jhale667
          Huh? Where the fuck is your polling place...Compton?
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          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • jhale667
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            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #20
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59650

              #21
              Back on topic..... this from Andrew Sullivan's blog. Light on details, but it does not sound good at all......

              12 Jun 2009 10:25 pm
              The View From Their Election

              A reader writes:
              What happened today was the first coup d'etat after the revolution. Never before, not even in the worst of times, did we see such an orchestrated mass rigging of the vote. They didn't even bother to count the vote, they are announcing bunch of numbers they had agreed on before! It has no relation to the millions of ballots. The turn-out was amazing or more like shocking: over 75&#37; voted.

              This is a party night for neocons and Netanyahu and Ahmadinejad. There will be grave consequences for the supreme leader and this regime but don't let any one have you believe that the millions who voted today will take to the streets and bring this regime down. It won't happen. Disappointment, disgust and pain and isolation is our destiny.


              We'll learn more tomorrow. But this has not been a good day for those hoping for change.

              The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan
              Shit...... NuttyYahoo is going to get away with starting WWIII after all?
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              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Blaze
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2009
                • 4371

                #22
                There are a lot of people that want Ahmadinejad to win, if Bush did not like him that is a very good mark for him.
                Even during the BCE reign of terror, Ahmadinejad made great efforts and strides toward diplomacy.
                "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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                • sadaist
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 11625

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jhale667
                  Huh? Where the fuck is your polling place...Compton?
                  Actually, it was in Philadelphia. Gotta pay attention to more news than just the stuff that jives with your same opinion. Didn't really see this on the Obama network news stations.


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                  “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                  • jhale667
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 20929

                    #24
                    Like you know my opinion...thanks for playing...

                    Originally posted by sadaist
                    Actually, it was in Philadelphia. Gotta pay attention to more news than just the stuff that jives with your same opinion. Didn't really see this on the Obama network news stations.
                    Hmm, and which one(s), besides...oh, I'm guessing...FAUX, in your opinion, isn't an Obama station? :D What's an open minded guy supposed to watch, when Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck make my socks itch, from a personal standpoint alone?

                    Are you implying these guys were there at the Obama campain's behest, and if so can you support it? Were they telling people who to vote for, or risk a clubbing? Harassing voters at a polling place is still a Federal offense, yes? No one called the cops?

                    And as for it being Philly...
                    Well, had you perhaps posted the link originally, might not have thought you were referring to personal experience...your location says So CA, can't blame a dude for asking?

                    Originally posted by GAR
                    It's not Ahmadinejad they have to fear, it's chaos of an uncontrollable population who know too much off the internet and ignoring their own local staterun press.

                    On the news, the opposition party is out in full green running the streets!

                    It looks pretty obvious the Iranians are done with the idiots in charge. They'll go chaos on 'em if the election results are crooked.

                    Yeah, too much access to knowledge, that's a bad thing in your book. Forgot.
                    And guess we'll see if you're right (which will be a first) since the election results already look screwy...
                    Last edited by jhale667; 06-13-2009, 01:26 AM.
                    Originally posted by conmee
                    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                    That is all.

                    Icon.
                    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                    Originally posted by Isaac R.
                    Then it's really true??

                    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                    Originally posted by eddie78
                    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59650

                      #25
                      That "black panthers in Philadelphia" thing was a little bit of FAUX Noize election day paranoia. If I remember correctly, it turned out to be a bunch of bullshit.
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                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59650

                        #26
                        Meanwhile, the Iranian election is sounding a lot like a hijacking, Ohio 2004 style......

                        Ahmadinejad scores big win in Iran vote

                        Supporters of Iranian presidential candidate Mahmoud Ahmadinejad celebrate in Tehran after...
                        By Parisa Hafezi and Fredrik Dahl, Reuters
                        Sat Jun 13, 1:28 AM EDT

                        Hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad resoundingly won Iran's election, preliminary official results showed on Saturday, but his moderate challenger alleged irregularities and claimed victory for himself.

                        The level of the incumbent's support, roughly twice as many votes as former Prime Minister Mirhossein Mousavi with most ballots counted, confounded analyst predictions of a tight race.

                        A bitterly fought campaign generated intense excitement inside Iran and strong interest around the world, with policymakers looking for signs of a change in Tehran's approach in a long-running row with the West over its nuclear ambitions.

                        Listing several complaints before official results were announced, Mousavi said many people had not been able to vote and that there had been a lack of ballot papers.

                        He also accused authorities of blocking text messaging, with which his campaign tried to reach young, urban voters.

                        "I am the definite winner of this presidential election," Mousavi told a news conference.

                        But the Islamic Republic's election commission said Ahmadinejad was ahead with 64.8 percent of the votes from Friday's presidential election in the world's fifth biggest oil exporter after more than 30 million ballots had been counted.

                        Mousavi had around 32 percent support, said the commission. Based on an Interior Ministry estimate of a maximum 80 percent turnout of Iran's 46 million eligible voters, he could not beat Ahmadinejad with the votes still to be counted.

                        The official news agency IRNA said: "Dr Ahmadinejad, by winning most votes ... has secured his victory." State media said final results would be announced at 10 a.m. (1:30 a.m. EDT).

                        Trita Parsi, president of the Washington-based National Iranian American Council, expressed disbelief at the wide margin in Ahmadinejad's favor.

                        "It is difficult to feel comfortable that this occurred without any cheating," Parsi said.

                        Speaking in Washington before the results were released, U.S. President Barack Obama said his administration was excited about the debate taking place in Iran and he hoped it would help the two countries to engage "in new ways."

                        STREET SCUFFLES

                        Western capitals had hoped a victory for Mousavi could help ease tensions with the West, which is concerned about Tehran's nuclear plans, and improve chances of engagement with Obama, who has talked about a new start in ties with Tehran.

                        Now they will have to find a way to deal with Ahmadinejad's government if they want to make progress in defusing the dispute over Iran's nuclear programme.

                        The three-week election campaign was marked by mudslinging, with Ahmadinejad accusing his rivals of corruption. They said he was lying about the state of the economy.

                        It was unclear how Mousavi's supporters, who thronged the streets of Tehran nightly in the run-up to Friday's vote, might react to an Ahmadinejad victory. U.S. strategic intelligence group Stratfor called the situation "potentially explosive," with a considerable risk of unrest.

                        Scuffles broke out early on Saturday between police and chanting Mousavi supporters in a Tehran square, a Reuters witness said. Police say they have increased security across the capital to prevent any trouble. All gatherings have been banned until the publication of final results.

                        Shortly before voting ended, some Tehran residents said they were unable to make international phone calls and some Internet servers went down.

                        Ahmadinejad draws his bedrock support from rural areas or poorer big city neighborhoods. Mousavi enjoys strong backing in wealthier urban centers, and was expected to attract votes from women and young Iranians.

                        Two other candidates attracted only tiny voter support.

                        Long queues had formed at voting centers, after a heated campaign in which inflation -- officially around 15 percent -- and high unemployment were leading issues.

                        Ahmadinejad, 52, won power four years ago on a pledge to revive the values of the 1979 Islamic revolution. He has steadily built up Iran's nuclear programme, rejecting Western charges that it is aimed at building an atomic bomb, and stirred international outrage by denying the Holocaust and calling for Israel to be wiped from the map.

                        Mousavi, 67, rejects Western demands that Iran halt uranium enrichment but analysts say he would have brought a different approach to Iran-U.S. ties and talks on the nuclear issue. Ultimately, however, nuclear and foreign policy are determined by the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

                        The United States has had no ties with Iran since shortly after the revolution but Obama said in Washington the United States had "tried to send a clear message that we think there is the possibility of change" in relations.

                        (Additional reporting by Hossein Jaseb, Hashem Kalantari, Zahra Hosseinian; Writing by Dominic Evans; Editing by Ralph Gowling)

                        &#169; 2009 Thomson Reuters.

                        Ahmadinejad scores big win in Iran vote | Comcast.net
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                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • GAR
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10881

                          #27
                          Well, since these are cast ballot tickets, it should be fair to ask for a recount.. and when that's denied, an independant audit.. and if that's not allowed, an outside international party could audit.. and then after that demand a recall.. and when that's denied, a protest, and when those people are killed, a national revolt, and when that's put down..

                          This is gonna be the news for the next 2 years. Why don't they all just order guns off walmart.com or something, and start a civil unrest? Fedex and UPS know where to find Iran..

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59650

                            #28
                            I just want to know where Kenneth Blackwell is right now. There must be a record of him booking a flight to Tehran somewhere.
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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10881

                              #29
                              After Obama's speech on this hope and faith in the election process nonsense, he's gonna be hard pressed to answer the obvious "what do they do now besides revolt" questions that arise tomorrow.

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                              • Blaze
                                Full Member Status

                                • Jan 2009
                                • 4371

                                #30
                                Good news!
                                The other guy reminded me of Howard Dean or somebody like that, that was just pandering and jiving to appear "hip"... Dude, you are 67 years old and so is your wife. Not that you can't be astute, but you should realize you can't fake intuitiveness. There's no doubt, God willing, that with the vast population of young people in Iran, that a great leader will come from the young population, but the old dude was just trying to groovy train.


                                The west will not get any real news outside of the fox style news like the article above.


                                Website for the president of Iran

                                Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's blog
                                Last edited by Blaze; 06-13-2009, 05:09 AM.
                                "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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