Health care and the American dream of independence

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  • jhale667
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 20929

    #16
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Yeah but you hide behind the big pointy hooded hat.

    Yeah, without the racist crap, E's arguments against Obama are even more ridiculous if that's possible.
    Originally posted by conmee
    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

    That is all.

    Icon.
    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


    Originally posted by Isaac R.
    Then it's really true??

    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
    Originally posted by eddie78
    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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    • bueno bob
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 22951

      #17
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      But I GUARANTEE I can give a speech without a teleprompter...
      But would it be a good idea?

      Twistin' by the pool.

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      • bueno bob
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 22951

        #18
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        Ask Obama, not me... but I doubt he even knows...
        Well, I don't recall Obama saying anything about "We're going to make health care free for all Americans...and then make every single else free for all Americans while we're at it. Gas, CDs, DVDs, trips to the movies, groceries, cigarettes, computers, houses, cars...all FREE!"

        Sorry, but I don't follow your train of logic. You say every industry will be government run and non profit if health care is...defend it. Don't tell me to ask Obama. Give me a clear cut example of how I won't have to pay for, say, a new Stephen King novel if health care is universally covered. How will the government take over publishing and turn it into a non-profit venture if it happens to health care? How does U.S. publishing fall under the health care umbrella?

        Not that I'd buy any new books out of Stephen King anymore, but still. Let's say publishing in general.

        That's what you're saying right? Defend it.
        Last edited by bueno bob; 08-06-2009, 02:18 PM.
        Twistin' by the pool.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #19
          I'm hinting at what you're saying, but i'm not saying it to be true...

          Just a suggestion, or an idea...

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          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7579

            #20
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            I'm hinting at what you're saying, but i'm not saying it to be true...

            Just a suggestion, or an idea...
            Here's an idea. Quit saying stupid shit just to hear yourself think.
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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            • bueno bob
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22951

              #21
              Originally posted by Guitar Shark
              Here's an idea. Quit saying stupid shit just to hear yourself think.
              LMAO!

              Best laugh I've had this morning so far! Many thanks!!
              Twistin' by the pool.

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #22
                The problem with modern healthcare is it tends to keep assholes like your mother in law alive longer. It interferes with nature. How many of us suffer from inlaws who have lived longer than mother nature intended them to?
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • standin
                  Veteran
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2274

                  #23
                  In-laws! Not just in-laws!

                  Health care is totally an interference of nature, you are so right. Health care should be outlawed and banned. It is a horrible atrocity.


                  To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                  MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                  • Va Beach VH Fan
                    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 17913

                    #24
                    One of the key points that I find amusing is that you see dozens of signs saying they don't want "government-controlled" healthcare....

                    Then you watch one of those hijacked townhall meetings where they're saying the same thing...

                    But then the speaker turns around and says, "How many of you are on Medicare ??"....

                    Nearly all of the same people raise their hand....

                    Huh ??

                    I just don't understand the rhetoric... Is it out of ignorance, anti-Obamaanything, anti-poor people, anti-Democratanything....

                    Politics aside, if you don't think that nearly everything negative towards Obama is race-related, you're being awfully, awfully naive...
                    Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                    "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                    "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35750

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                      One of the key points that I find amusing is that you see dozens of signs saying they don't want "government-controlled" healthcare....

                      Then you watch one of those hijacked townhall meetings where they're saying the same thing...

                      But then the speaker turns around and says, "How many of you are on Medicare ??"....

                      Nearly all of the same people raise their hand....

                      Huh ??
                      If you ever doubted the power of $$$ and advertising to influence the masses then you are seeing it in front of your eyes.

                      I don't know the exact details of the proposal but I hear its a pussified watered down thing anyway but one of the dozens of facts that seems to be completely misrepresented and lied about to the people is that they will be forced to use public healthcare. That only happens in communist countries.

                      In all Western democracies you can opt out with varying degrees of financial recompense for the services you are not relying on.

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                      • Va Beach VH Fan
                        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 17913

                        #26
                        Absolutely Sesh....

                        And that's why I come back to ignorance... Not that I'm saying they're stupid, but uninformed, or should I say misinformed...
                        Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                        "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                        "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 59575

                          #27
                          Willfully ignorant is more like it. These people are part of Glenn BecKKK's "9-12" fan club or are paid shills for a corporatist group led by former Repuke congressman Dick Armey. Or in some cases, just plain RACIST, like this trailer dweller who was whining in one of the clips I saw today about "how this country ain't never been like this before and she wants HER country back"

                          Well, exactly what is it that this country ain't ever had before?

                          Economic hard times? No.

                          Differences over needed policy changes? No.

                          A Black man in the White House and a Latina woman on the Supreme Court? Ah, now we're getting somewhere.........

                          MUST RESTORE THE ARYAN RACE TO SUPREMACY !!111!!! WHITE POWER!!111!!!
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35750

                            #28
                            Biggest problem seems to be your party though FORD.

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                              Here's an idea. Quit saying stupid shit just to hear yourself think.
                              Same back at ya...

                              Just your career is based on taking peoples money doesn't mean you're intelligent...

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 59575

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                                Biggest problem seems to be your party though FORD.
                                You mean those assholes who claim to be in my party, but wouldn't know progressive legislation if I wrapped it up tight with a rubber band and beat them over the head with it?


                                Like old Max FuckUs here?
                                Eat Us And Smile

                                Cenk For America 2024!!

                                Justice Democrats


                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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