The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 370

[WARF]

Atleast cadaverdog has a change of clothes at his feet...

[Big Train]

Exactly, exacty.

Look the cat's already out of the bag - it's a KNOWN fact that the Healthcare Industry has enlisted help in DISRUPTING these town hall meetings...they're distributing INSTRUCTIONS on how to, FFS! They're not interested in furthering the debate, they're trying to stop it altogether. Not to mention the segment of the Republicans looking for nothing other than to make this issue Obama's "Waterloo", never mind they're fucking the country simultaneously. It's despicable.
I'm not saying there aren't real, concerned citizens at these events to, but there a for all intents and purposes professional TROLLS there too, trying to break them up. To continue to insist otherwise is kinda lame...

If and when someone can show me solid proof, I'll tend to agree. And not some shitty clip that shows some random guy circled in red. SEE , IT'S HIM!!
I've refrained from talking about the unions and SEIU and ACORN, who I could throw just as much "they are doing it" right back out there, for the very same reason. If and when actual documentation of some sort is found, then I can accuse. The docs you refer to, I've also seen places as distributed by SEIU and the unions. These are too easy to fake for both sides, so I put little stock in them. I'm not Dan Rather, not falling for that...

I'm not saying more than likely there isn't those people in the mix on either side. I'm just saying the proof has been somewhat weak thus far.

I'm focusing my debate on the concerned citizens on either side of the aisle. The issues should be strong enough to stand on their own, without being intellectually dishonest and claiming that the "Fringe interests" as it were are the primary reasons the debate is what it is.

[davehagarfan]

FORD the Liberals have just as many idiots on their side as the Conservatives do......Al Franken, Michael Moore, Keith Olberman...a guy I use to like, Bill Mahr...another guy I use to like, Imus, Ron Paul....the guy wants neuter our military greatly I think that puts him squarely in with the kooks, Dennis Kucinich....

[davehagarfan]

One could also argue it's fraud perpetrated against the American public and therefore an act of treason.

This is not the bahviour that made America great. Something seems to have gotten fucked up along the way.

When haven't things been fucked up....here in America or any country for that matter?

[FORD]

FORD the Liberals have just as many idiots on their side as the Conservatives do......Al Franken, Michael Moore, Keith Olberman...a guy I use to like, Bill Mahr...another guy I use to like, Imus, Ron Paul....the guy wants neuter our military greatly I think that puts him squarely in with the kooks, Dennis Kucinich....

Since when are Imus or Ron Paul "Liberals"??

Bill Maher is a left-leaning Libertarian, but I'd say he's more in agreement with Liberals than Conservatives most of the time. Al Franken? Time will tell what kind of senator he will be, but he moved from a reasonably "liberal" writer to a DLC neocon loving radio host, so I doubt he's going to restore Paul Wellstone's senate seat to its past Liberal glory. A damn sight better than Norm Coleman the failed used car salesman in any case.

As for Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, and Dennis Kucinich, they are great American patriots, and we could use a lot more like them.

[davehagarfan]

Since when are Imus or Ron Paul "Liberals"??

Bill Maher is a left-leaning Libertarian, but I'd say he's more in agreement with Liberals than Conservatives most of the time. Al Franken? Time will tell what kind of senator he will be, but he moved from a reasonably "liberal" writer to a DLC neocon loving radio host, so I doubt he's going to restore Paul Wellstone's senate seat to its past Liberal glory. A damn sight better than Norm Coleman the failed used car salesman in any case.

As for Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, and Dennis Kucinich, they are great American patriots, and we could use a lot more like them.

Ron Paul is an isolationist and completely out of his mind. He may or may not be the fiscal conservative he claims but one thing is for sure.....he hates the military and blames The Fed on all of Congress' financial woes....


Michael Moore, Olbermann and Kucinich are great Americans and Patriots? Fuck you're batshit crazy if you think that....though I will admit Olbermann is the easiest to take out of the three........Michael Moore is a self-serving, lying, uneducated, trust fund kid that hates himself only a little more more than he hates his country.


I don't know why I'm even trying to talk reason with you as you think Chimpy pulled off 9/11......that's just crazy talk.....as for him having prior knowledge....The Clinton Administration failed to advert a handlful of terrorist attacks both foreign and domestic back in the 90s.....one of the smaller ones was even on the WTC within about six months of Clinton taking office.....so why are you giving Chimpy so much shit about it? You don't think the Clinton administration was aware of threats against us?


I'm surprised you're not a bigger Ron Paul supporter as you tend to lean way out there with some of your insane theories and hypothesis.....

Why don't you think Imus is a liberal? Because he called a group of black girls nappy headed hos?

[jhale667]

Michael Moore, Olbermann and Kucinich are great Americans and Patriots? Fuck you're batshit crazy if you think that....

Really....I'm more inclined to think you're an idiot for thinking otherwise...especially Moore and Olbermann...

[davehagarfan]

Really....I'm more inclined to think you're an idiot for thinking otherwise...especially Moore and Olbermann...

You've got me with Olbermann as he seems like a good guy and is far more level headed than most talking heads......unlike Michael Moore who is just out of his mind and crazier than Ron Paul on the campaign trail....


Calling Moore a patriot is as misguided as calling Limbaugh one....they are both out of their minds.....alot like Jim Garrison back in his day....

[jhale667]

Where does the hate for Moore come from? Limbaugh is completely despicable these days (he was moderately entertaining in the late 80s, but has been in a huge downward spiral idealogically since, IMO), not sure how Moore gets lumped in with his ilk.

[davehagarfan]

Where does the hate for Moore come from? Limbaugh is completely despicable these days (he was moderately entertaining in the late 80s, but has been in a huge downward spiral idealogically since, IMO), not sure how Moore gets lumped in with his ilk.

It's not so much hate but extreme distrust, dismay and even some disgust.....I don't wish death or ill will on the guy or anything....I just think he's an asshole and often either completely uniformed or a master manipulator........I've seen parts of his movies, I've watched interviews on him and I've even read some of Dude Where's My Country......it's been a while but from what I remember of the opening chapters in the book he was claiming Chimpy orchestrated 9/11 as part one of a grand master plan so he could get an excuse to invade Afghanistan then later invade Iraq so he could build a pipeline from the northern tip of Iraq to the Southern tip of Afghanistan or some bullshit like that...this was about a year after the 2003 invasion of Iraq......Tubby also claimed our country had nothing to worry as far as future terrorist attacks goes because 9/11 was all our own governments doing and that there wasn't and never was a terrorist threat or attack in our country during The Clinton Administration........he failed to mention the 1993 WTC bombings....1995 Oklahoma City bomings...which were domestic terrorism but still an major attack..bigger than the 1993 WTC..... as well as the Olympic bombings in Atlanta in 1998....he also failed to mention the failed attempt of New Year's Eve 2000......when several terrorists almost got through the Candian border and were playing an attack on LAX...

The guy is either a serious dumbfuck or is lying his ass off...

[jhale667]

Hmm...I have Bowling for Columbine on DVD, and I've seen Fahrenheit 9/11 and Sicko. I believe he does indeed mention the '93 WTC attack...

I did find Maher's comment on 9/11 hilarious...that suggesting Bush was involved was stupid because it had "Bush" and "knowledge" in the same sentence...:D But still, the "official" story...not really buying it completely. But that's another thread entirely.

[davehagarfan]

Hmm...I have Bowling for Columbine on DVD, and I've seen Fahrenheit 9/11 and Sicko. I believe he does indeed mention the '93 WTC attack...

I did find Maher's comment on 9/11 hilarious...that suggesting Bush was involved was stupid because it had "Bush" and "knowledge" in the same sentence...:D But still, the "official" story...not really buying it completely. But that's another thread entirely.

I'm talking about Dude Where's My Country...his book.....he goes on and on in the first couple of chapters about how Chimp "created" all this paranoia and that we never had any kind of terrorist attacks on our shores prior to 9/11......it's been a while since I've read it but I'm pretty sure that's what he said....he also claimed 9/11 was just a big show put on by Chimp and Cheney for our entertainment in order to give them an excuse to invade and impose our "imperialism" upon Afghanistan and Iraq so they could build an oil pipeline from Iraq all the down through Afghanistan....the guy is out of his mind


I would sit down and try to watch all of Columbine and Fahrenheit if I could get through them without either laughing my ass off or puking my guts out.....the guy is almost as nuts as Ron Paul...he's a goofy motherfucker that's for sure


The guy is full of shit on alot of things....if you're into buying everything the guy claims inorder to make a buck then that's your perogative but he's a quackjob of the highest order



Moore also thinks Some Kind of Monster is a brilliant piece of art work......I think that's a direct quote.....so there you go as far as how off base the guy's opinion is.......


As far as the "official story" of what happend....just like with the Kennedy Assassination....it's what really happend...Bill Clinton even gave some cuntspiracy nutjob a verbal beatdown who tried to verbally attack him at a townhall meeting a few years ago over all this 9/11 inside job bullshit.....

[jhale667]

The Metallica flick? Haven't seen it - don't think I could bear to sit through listening to them get psychoanalyzed for two hours... I do like the theme song...probably one of the best tunes they've put out in years, not to go completely off-topic. :D

I don't buy into everything anyone says - far too naturally skeptical for that, but it seems like he gets way more flack than he deserves.

[Nickdfresh]

Ron Paul is an isolationist and completely out of his mind. He may or may not be the fiscal conservative he claims but one thing is for sure.....he hates the military and blames The Fed on all of Congress' financial woes....


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I don't think Ron Paul hates the military. He probably loves American and is a patriot in his own right. But I strongly disagree with him and his belief system.

I agree he's an isolationist nutter and I think most libertarians are to some extent. They're either disingenuous self-serving trust-fund anarchist hippy assholes trying not to have to work too hard to keep their fortune, dummy middle class (or even lower middle class) souls who actually think the gov't is somehow worse and more insidious than multi-national corporations they work for or who sell them shit, or said members and special interests of multi-national corporations trying to convince you that they are far more benevolent than your government is so they can pretty much piss on your backs at will....

Libertarianism is just another nihilist philosophy akin to Marxism and Anarchism, and closely related to the latter I might add. It's like Anarchist philosophy for people with money...

[davehagarfan]

The Metallica flick? Haven't seen it - don't think I could bear to sit through listening to them get psychoanalyzed for two hours... I do like the theme song...probably one of the best tunes they've put out in years, not to go completely off-topic. :D

I don't buy into everything anyone says - far too naturally skeptical for that, but it seems like he gets way more flack than he deserves.

He stated it when he got an award that was up against Metallica's film...I think it may have been an Academy Award for best Documentary Film to be honest.....pretty pathetic that many people buy into his bullshit


Any flack Moore gets he rightfully deserves....just like that other fat fuck Rush Limbaugh.....they are two different sides of the same pathetic coin.....they suck