Greedy Union Fucks...

[WACF]

Even if I did buy that (and I don't) how does that justify the unions taxing companies they aren't even involved with for the express purpose of creating jobs for union members?

This is a pure money grab...

I am missing part of the equation here.

What union jobs exactly...are the jobs within the infrastructure projects and other spending priorities all unionized?

To a degree...say they are...are more jobs all that bad?

I would rather see someone work off of a collected tax than sit at home waiting for a government cheque.

[Big Train]

I am missing part of the equation here.

What union jobs exactly...are the jobs within the infrastructure projects and other spending priorities all unionized?

To a degree...say they are...are more jobs all that bad?

I would rather see someone work off of a collected tax than sit at home waiting for a government cheque.

Most of the infrastructure work will be performed by union labor and/or subcontractors with union labor.

I have a problem taking from them, as greedy as you may feel they are, simply because someone feels they make too much money, therefore they should be "taxed".

It's what a liberal might call a "Slippery Slope". But a liberal is also likely to go along with this, decrying for the "working poor" while locking up votes for the next election cycle. The lesson of the Lion.

We used to have an appreciation for profits in the US, now they are disdained and if you stick your head up too high, they are there with their hands out demanding 'Justice'.

[FORD]

Goldmine Sucks should be pay a tax rate of 99%.

And even then, the fucking criminals would still make too much money.

They're actually in the top 5 of corporations that serve no valid purpose whatsoever and should not be allowed to exist (along with Halliburton, Blackwater, Phillip Morris, and Rupert Murdoch's "News" Corporation)

Fascism? No, just enforcement of existing laws that require a corporation to serve the public good in some way. And none of them can legitmately claim to do so.

[Blackflag]

Fascism? No, just enforcement of existing laws that require a corporation to serve the public good in some way.

I love that law.

[Big Train]

Goldmine Sucks should be pay a tax rate of 99%.

And even then, the fucking criminals would still make too much money.

They're actually in the top 5 of corporations that serve no valid purpose whatsoever and should not be allowed to exist (along with Halliburton, Blackwater, Phillip Morris, and Rupert Murdoch's "News" Corporation)

Fascism? No, just enforcement of existing laws that require a corporation to serve the public good in some way. And none of them can legitmately claim to do so.

This post so neatly summarizes every difference of opinion I have with you...it's all there. Well done Ford.

[Nitro Express]

Credit default swaps are legalized gambling and should be outlawed (again) immediately.

Wall Street runs the government. Blame them. They've taken more from you than you care to admit.

Financial WMD's

Yes. Wall Street has merged with Washington. This has been going on for some time. Derivatives and credit default swaps were illegal under the Glass Stiegal Act and made legal again during the Clinton administration. This whole Republican vs. Democrat cherade is nonsense. If they really wanted to stimulate the economy they could set aside $100 billion and give every citizen over 18 years of age a cut. That would be around $140,000 per person. Pay your debts, buy some health coverage, invest it, buy a new car. It would stimulate things more than giving the bankers tens of trillions of dollars and far cheaper. The bankers win. They speculate and keep the money if they win and the taxpayer bails them out if they lose.

[GAR]

I'm in favor of it as long as the business doesn't pass it on to the customer.

Did any of that edumacation impart some basics of US economics infrastructure theory to you?

[GAR]

This post so neatly summarizes every difference of opinion I have with you...it's all there. Well done Ford.

That's why he's doing Main forums now!

[hideyoursheep]

Yes. Wall Street has merged with Washington. This has been going on for some time. Derivatives and credit default swaps were illegal under the Glass Stiegal Act and made legal again during the Clinton administration. This whole Republican vs. Democrat cherade is nonsense. If they really wanted to stimulate the economy they could set aside $100 billion and give every citizen over 18 years of age a cut. That would be around $140,000 per person. Pay your debts, buy some health coverage, invest it, buy a new car. It would stimulate things more than giving the bankers tens of trillions of dollars and far cheaper. The bankers win. They speculate and keep the money if they win and the taxpayer bails them out if they lose.

The problem with that is, even for working people, health insurance is unaffordable, so buying a new car would be out of the question.


UNION JOBS on the other hand,..........(control yourself, BT)


Even then, health insurance doesn't cover everything, you can't "shop" for a cheaper provider unless that provider accepts your insurance, and if they don't, it's probably because the assholes in charge of the company are slow to pay claims and doctors are tired of getting burnt, OR the insurance co. doesn't want to pay 1000 bucks for a CATSCAN.

Just some of the reasosn why reform is needed.