Birth control could help combat climate change

[Nitro Express]

If a virus killed all the human beings the earth would just consolidate anything we have done into itself and go on being the earth because all the matter we manipulated was from the earth. So the earth is going nowhere, we are.

If you want to talk natural pollution I can take you to the geyser basins of Yellowstone not far from where I live. The air smells like a nasty chemical plant. Then those of you in LA know all about the natural pollution of brush and forrest fires. Then we have the big polluters. Volcanoes.

[Seshmeister]

This is the third time the volcano misinformation has come up in these forums in the last few months.

I'm guessing it's some spin the gasoline lobby are throwing out over there at the moment?

I answered GAR on this before the figures are pretty easy to find.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/front-line/54701-retarded-manchild-allowed-speak-house-committee-2.html#post1342913

Not unusually there is a terrible fucking flaw in your argument. Someone has of course done the calculations. In fact lots of people have. Strangely enough the worlds scientists don't sit about doing nothing waiting for you to come up with ideas.

Secondly the answer is that each year volcanoes emit 200 million tons of CO2 which sounds a lot. It used to be a lot more than humans do. Unfortunately humans are now up to 27 billion metric tons, the US accounts for over 6 billion alone.

So to answer your question people create over 100 times more greenhouse gasses and the US over 20 times more than all the volcanoes in the world.

[Seshmeister]

Wait a darn minute there Professor Sesh... when the heck did you become a climatologist??

I am completely not which is my point.

Every climatologist in the world though thinks that human CO2 output is fucking us up and going to really fuck us up shortly. I trust this consensus of climatologist because I know the scientific method works.

The sunspots thing is a side issue, it does make things get warmer or cooler but that is beside the point. Again thats not my opinion, that's the opinion of all the people that are qualified to speak on it.

Cheers!

[Big Train]

And those scientists who disagree are generally unqualified to speak, or so the rationale goes...

[Nickdfresh]

I am completely not which is my point.

Every climatologist in the world though thinks that human CO2 output is fucking us up and going to really fuck us up shortly. I trust this consensus of climatologist because I know the scientific method works.

The sunspots thing is a side issue, it does make things get warmer or cooler but that is beside the point. Again thats not my opinion, that's the opinion of all the people that are qualified to speak on it.

Cheers!

This is absolutely correct. No serious climatologists dispute that man-made CO2 is altering the atmosphere as recent climate change acceleration directly corresponds with not only the industrial age, but with the dawning of organized agriculture. I see part of the fuckwit arguments here are that cows farting has more of an impact than say our cars. But the main contradiction in all that is that there would be no massive numbers of farting cows existing without the human need for agriculture and dairy farming. The only serious scientific debate now is how much we can actually do, or undo, about it...

The only debates is the retarded seeding of the interweb with misinformation by special interest groups that fool the undereducated simpletons like Jesus-Juice up there...

[Nickdfresh]

And those scientists who disagree are generally unqualified to speak, or so the rationale goes...

Those scientists of "dissenting opinion" are generally less than five percent of any given global climate change conference. Yet they're numbers and opinions are presented often way out of correspondence with their actual numbers, and even out of context as their arguments are often morphed into something they never intended...

[Big Train]

I didn't realize you were attending these conferences and taking copious notes on their positions....

Because they are a small number, they are considered unworthy, because the majority disagree? When they say history repeats itself, this is what they mean...the world is flat...

[Baby's On Fire]

I cannot believe you're falling for such an outright LIE!

So says Jesus Christ, our Holy Lord and saviour.

And of course our republican douchebags who put profits and re-election ahead of the health of the World populace....

My GAWD what a half-fuckwhit

[Nickdfresh]

I didn't realize you were attending these conferences and taking copious notes on their positions....

I didn't need to. It's well documented...

Because they are a small number, they are considered unworthy, because the majority disagree? When they say history repeats itself, this is what they mean...the world is flat...

I didn't say that. I'm saying that even a majority of climate scientists who question the precepts of global warming would not agree with how their work is being used by a corporate media...

[ELVIS]

I didn't realize you were attending these conferences and taking copious notes on their positions....

My thoughts exactly...

[Nickdfresh]

My thoughts exactly...

Which conferences have you two opinionated bozos attended?

[GAR]

I think the air is cleaner than ever before in history because we no longer burn coal or wood for our stoves.

With MORE CO2 in the atmosphere, things would get alot cooler due to solid particulates blocking the sun's rays..

[ELVIS]

"CO2 for different people has different attractions. After all, what is it? - it’s not a pollutant, it’s a product of every living creature’s breathing, it’s the product of all plant respiration, it is essential for plant life and photosynthesis, it’s a product of all industrial burning, it’s a product of driving – I mean, if you ever wanted a leverage point to control everything from exhalation to driving, this would be a dream. So it has a kind of fundamental attractiveness to bureaucratic mentality." - Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not pollution and Global Warming has nothing to do with pollution. The average person has been misled and is confused about what the current Global Warming debate is about, greenhouse gases. None of which has anything to do with air pollution.

People are confusing Smog, Carbon Monoxide (CO) and the pollutants in car exhaust with the life supporting, essential trace gas in our atmosphere, Carbon Dioxide (CO2). Pollution is already regulated under the Clean Air Act and regulating Carbon Dioxide (CO2) will do absolutely nothing to make the air you breath "cleaner". Regulating Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emissions through either 'Carbon Taxes' or 'Cap and Trade' policies will cause energy prices (electricity, gasoline, diesel fuel, propane, heating oil ect...) to skyrocket.


"CO2 is not a pollutant. In simple terms, CO2 is plant food. The green world we see around us would disappear if not for atmospheric CO2. These plants largely evolved at a time when the atmospheric CO2 concentration was many times what it is today. Indeed, numerous studies indicate the present biosphere is being invigorated by the human-induced rise of CO2. In and of itself, therefore, the increasing concentration of CO2 does not pose a toxic risk to the planet." - John R. Christy, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Alabama

"Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant but a naturally occurring, beneficial trace gas in the atmosphere. For the past few million years, the Earth has existed in a state of relative carbon dioxide starvation compared with earlier periods. There is no empirical evidence that levels double or even triple those of today will be harmful, climatically or otherwise. As a vital element in plant photosynthesis, carbon dioxide is the basis of the planetary food chain - literally the staff of life. Its increase in the atmosphere leads mainly to the greening of the planet. To label carbon dioxide a "pollutant" is an abuse of language, logic and science." - Robert M. Carter, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental and Earth Sciences, James Cook University

"Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. On the contrary, it makes crops and forests grow faster. Economic analysis has demonstrated that more CO2 and a warmer climate will raise GNP and therefore average income. It's axiomatic that bureaucracies always want to expand their scope of operations. This is especially true of EPA, which is primarily a regulatory agency. As air and water pollution disappear as prime issues, as acid rain and stratospheric-ozone depletion fade from public view, climate change seems like the best growth area for regulators. It has the additional glamour of being international and therefore appeals to those who favor world governance over national sovereignty. Therefore, labeling carbon dioxide, the product of fossil-fuel burning, as a pollutant has a high priority for EPA as a first step in that direction." - S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia

"Carbon and CO2 (carbon dioxide) are fundamental for all life on Earth. CO2 is a colorless, odorless, non-toxic gas. CO2 is product of our breathing, and is used in numerous common applications like fire extinguishers, baking soda, carbonated drinks, life jackets, cooling agent, etc. Plants' photosynthesis consume CO2 from the air when the plants make their carbohydrates, which bring the CO2 back to the air again when the plants rot or are being burned." - Tom V. Segalstad, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, University of Oslo

"To suddenly label CO2 as a "pollutant" is a disservice to a gas that has played an enormous role in the development and sustainability of all life on this wonderful Earth. Mother Earth has clearly ruled that CO2 is not a pollutant." - Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University

"Many chemicals are absolutely necessary for humans to live, for instance oxygen. Just as necessary, human metabolism produces by-products that are exhaled, like carbon dioxide and water vapor. So, the production of carbon dioxide is necessary, on the most basic level, for humans to survive. The carbon dioxide that is emitted as part of a wide variety of natural processes is, in turn, necessary for vegetation to live. It turns out that most vegetation is somewhat 'starved' for carbon dioxide, as experiments have shown that a wide variety of plants grow faster, and are more drought tolerant, in the presence of doubled carbon dioxide concentrations. Fertilization of the global atmosphere with the extra CO2 that mankind's activities have emitted in the last century is believed to have helped increase agricultural productivity. In short, carbon dioxide is a natural part of our environment, necessary for life, both as 'food' and as a by-product." - Roy Spencer, Ph.D. Meteorology

"I am at a loss to understand why anyone would regard carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Carbon dioxide, a natural gas produced by human respiration, is a plant nutrient that is beneficial both for people and for the natural environment. It promotes plant growth and reforestation. Faster-growing trees mean lower housing costs for consumers and more habitat for wild species. Higher agricultural yields from carbon dioxide fertilization will result in lower food prices and will facilitate conservation by limiting the need to convert wild areas to arable land." - David Deming, Ph.D. Professor of Geology and Geophysics, University of Oklahoma

"Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a colorless, odorless trace gas that actually sustains life on this planet. Consider the simple dynamics of human energy acquisition, which occurs daily across the globe. We eat plants directly, or we consume animals that have fed upon plants, to obtain the energy we need. But where do plants get their energy? Plants produce their own energy during a process called photosynthesis, which uses sunlight to combine water and carbon dioxide into sugars for supporting overall growth and development. Hence, CO2 is the primary raw material that plants depend upon for their existence. Because plants reside beneath animals (including humans) on the food chain, their healthy existence ultimately determines our own. Carbon dioxide can hardly be labeled a pollutant, for it is the basic substrate that allows life to persist on Earth." - Keith E. Idso, Ph.D. Botany

"Atmospheric CO2 is required for life by both plants and animals. It is the sole source of carbon in all of the protein, carbohydrate, fat, and other organic molecules of which living things are constructed. Plants extract carbon from atmospheric CO2 and are thereby fertilized. Animals obtain their carbon from plants. Without atmospheric CO2, none of the life we see on Earth would exist. Water, oxygen, and carbon dioxide are the three most important substances that make life possible. They are surely not environmental pollutants." - Arthur B. Robinson, Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry

Defined

"Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - A colourless, odourless gas produced by burning carbon and organic compounds and by respiration, and absorbed by plants in photosynthesis." - Compact Oxford English Dictionary

"Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - A heavy colorless odorless atmospheric gas. Source: respiration, combustion. Use: during photosynthesis, in refrigeration, carbonated drinks, fire extinguishers." - Encarta Dictionary

"Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - A heavy colorless gas that does not support combustion, dissolves in water to form carbonic acid, is formed especially in animal respiration and in the decay or combustion of animal and vegetable matter, is absorbed from the air by plants in photosynthesis, and is used in the carbonation of beverages." - Merriam-Webster Dictionary

"Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - A colorless, odorless, incombustible gas, CO2, formed during respiration, combustion, and organic decomposition and used in food refrigeration, carbonated beverages, inert atmospheres, fire extinguishers, and aerosols." - The American Heritage Dictionary

"Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - A colorless, odorless, incombustible gas that is produced naturally in breathing, combustion, and decomposition, and commercially for use in dry ice, fire extinguishers, and carbonated beverages." - Wordsmyth Dictionary


Carbon Dioxide

- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is a natural part of Earth's Atmosphere (NASA)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels in the atmosphere have risen from 0.028% to 0.038% (380ppm) over the past 100 years (IPCC)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not toxic until 5% (50,000ppm) concentration (Source)
- Any detrimental effects of Carbon Dioxide (CO2) including chronic exposure to 3% (30,000ppm) are reversible (Source)
- OSHA, NIOSH, and ACGIH occupational exposure standards are 0.5% (5,000 ppm) Carbon Dioxide (CO2) (Source)


Kyoto Protocol

The Kyoto Protocol is a treaty to regulate 'Greenhouse Gases' only:
- Carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Methane (CH4)
- Nitrous oxide (N2O) (Laughing Gas, Nitrous, NOS)
- Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs)
- Perfluorocarbons (PFCs)
- Sulphur hexafluoride (SF6)


Car Exhaust

Car Exhaust consists of:
Harmless:
- Carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Nitrogen (N2)
- Water vapor (H2O)
Some Pollutants:
- Carbon monoxide (CO) *
- Hydrocarbons or Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) *
- Nitric oxide (NO) *
- Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) *
- Particulate matter (PM-10) *
- Sulfur dioxide (SO2) *

* Your car's Catalytic Converter removes about 95% of these pollutants by converting them to Water and Carbon Dioxide (CO2)


Smog

Smog consists of:
- Ozone (O3) * (formed from the photochemical reaction of Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) + Hydrocarbons)
- Particulate matter (PM-10) *
- Sulfur dioxide (SO2) *

[Nickdfresh]

LOL Water is good. We needz more waterz. Waterz is stuff of life. Water grate. How can water be bad?????




Gullible retards suckered by the oil and gas lobby...

[ELVIS]

No serious climatologists dispute that man-made CO2 is altering the atmosphere as recent climate change acceleration directly corresponds with not only the industrial age, but with the dawning of organized agriculture.

Hahahahaha!!!

What a dumbass...