Climate Denial Crock of the Week

[FORD]

Have you Busheep ever used an old fashioned, hand cranked ice cream maker?

How does it work. How does it get colder and freeze the ice cream?

When you can answer that, get back to me.

[Fuct Jup]

Have you Busheep ever used an old fashioned, hand cranked ice cream maker?

How does it work. How does it get colder and freeze the ice cream?

When you can answer that, get back to me.

Yea - I'll get back to you...

[ELVIS]

Lmao!

[Kristy]

Let me tell you, it gets damn cold at night in the middle of the Arizona desert this time of year too. But that don't mean it ain't 115 degrees in the daytime in July.

Not forgetting Loveland is also one of the highest summit ski areas in the county sitting at roughly 12,700 feet. Ever been at 12,000+feet in the Rocky Mountains an early October? It's cool up there even the summertime.

[FORD]

OK, since the Busheep didn't offer any guesses as to the ice cream freezer theory, I'll elaborate.

When you crank the ice cream freezer, the ice melts. Yet the contents inside get colder. Why is that? Because of the rock salt you mix in with the fresh water ice.

Now translate that to global warming.....

Polar ice caps are made of fresh water. The ice caps are melting. The oceans they melt into are salt water. Weather systems in the coastal areas (i.e. the north east) are created off shore.

Get the idea?

[FORD]

Not forgetting Loveland is also one of the highest summit ski areas in the county sitting at roughly 12,700 feet. Ever been at 12,000+feet in the Rocky Mountains an early October? It's cool up there even the summertime.

I've only been in the Rockies in late August. But it was considerably cooler up there than it was even in Denver. Which is itself a fairly high elevation.

[Fuct Jup]

OK, since the Busheep didn't offer any guesses as to the ice cream freezer theory, I'll elaborate.

When you crank the ice cream freezer, the ice melts. Yet the contents inside get colder. Why is that? Because of the rock salt you mix in with the fresh water ice.

Now translate that to global warming.....

Polar ice caps are made of fresh water. The ice caps are melting. The oceans they melt into are salt water. Weather systems in the coastal areas (i.e. the north east) are created off shore.

Get the idea?

This was a lesson on cranking what?

NOAA: Summer Temperature Below Average for U.S.

September 10, 2009

The average June-August 2009 summer temperature for the contiguous United States was below average – the 34th coolest on record, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. August was also below the long-term average. The analysis is based on records dating back to 1895.

U.S. Temperature Highlights – Summer

For the 2009 summer, the average temperature of 71.7 degrees F was 0.4 degree F below the 20th Century average. The 2008 average summer temperature was 72.7 degrees F.
A recurring upper level trough held the June-August temperatures down in the central states, where Michigan experienced its fifth, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and South Dakota their seventh, Nebraska its eighth, and Iowa its ninth coolest summer. By contrast, Florida had its fourth warmest summer, while Washington and Texas experienced their eighth and ninth warmest, respectively.
The Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota region experienced its sixth coolest summer on record. Only the Northwest averaged above normal temperatures.

U.S. Temperature Highlights – August

The average 2009 August temperature of 72.2 degrees F was 0.6 degree F below the 20th Century average. Last year’s August temperature was 73.2 degrees F.
Temperatures were below normal in the Midwest, Plains, and parts of the south. Above-normal temperatures dominated the eastern seaboard, areas in the southwest, and in the extreme northwest.
Several northeastern states were much above normal for August, including Delaware and New Jersey (eighth warmest), Maine (ninth), and Rhode Island and Connecticut (10th). In contrast, below-normal temperatures were recorded for Missouri and Kansas.

Other Highlights
There were more than 300 low temperature records (counting daily highs and lows) set across states in the Midwest during the last two days of August.
A total of 7,975 fires burned 1,646,363 acres in August, according to the National Interagency Coordination Center. August 2009 ranked fifth for the number of fires and sixth for acres burned in August this decade. From January through August, 64,682 fires have burned 5.2 million acres across the nation.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Summer Temperature Below Average for U.S.

[Coyote]

"Global Warming"?

I thought it was "Climate Change"... Or did they switch it back again?

[FORD]

Climate Change is definitely the more accurate label.

For while it was a cooler and wetter summer in the northeast US, over here on the other side of the country, we had a week of 100+ temperatures and even a few 90 degree days in September, which is considerably warmer than normal.

But going back to my previous post about the "ice cream freezer", the northern Pacific Ocean current is warmer than the northern Atlantic, which is why there was such a difference between the coasts.

On the other hand, Nurse Elvis and our friends in Florida are probably grateful that the cooler Atlantic ocean resulted in a relatively mild hurricane season.

[Nickdfresh]

Firstly, only an idiot would base his anti-Climate Change thesis on one single summer. Secondly, temperatures overall are on the rise, especially winter temperatures that have been climbing steadily, as have water temperatures. Fluxes in the jet stream such as "El Niño are effecting ocean temperatures, which are far more pertinent the debate than how many days Fuct Jup could suntan his balls.


Ocean surfaces have warmest summer on record, US report finds

• El Niño contributed largely to rise in temperatures
• Average temperatures rose to 16.9C

* Suzanne Goldenberg, US environment correspondent
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 16 September 2009 21.02 BST

The world's ocean surfaces had their warmest summer temperatures on record, the US national climatic data centre said today.

Climate change has been steadily raising the earth's average temperature in recent decades, but climatologists expected additional warming this year and next due to the influence of El Niño.

Ocean surface temperatures were the warmest for any August since record keeping began in 1880. For the June to August summer months, average ocean surface temperatures rose to 16.9C (62.5F), which is 1.04F above the 20th century average, said the report from the climate centre, which is a branch of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The world's combined average land and ocean surface temperatures were the second warmest on record for August, and the third warmest for the summer months.

"During the season, warmer-than-average temperatures engulfed much of the planet's surface," the centre said. Australia and New Zealand had their warmest August since records began.

However, central Canada and the United States were the exceptions, with unusually cool temperatures. "In some areas, such as the western United States, temperatures were much cooler than average," the report said.

The unusually warm summer temperatures for much of the world's oceans were due to El Niño, the periodic warming of the Pacific. If El Niño strengthens, global temperatures are likely to set new records, the report said. So far, 2009 has been the fifth warmest year on record.

Some scientists have suggested that, the effects of El Niño, coupled with warming due to climate change could well make the coming decade the hottest in human history.

Nasa predicted at the start of this year that 2009 and 2010 could see the setting of new global temperature records.

The report also noted the continuing retreat in Arctic sea ice over the summer. Sea ice covered an average of 6.3m sq kilometres (2.42m sq miles) during August, according to the national snow and ice data centre. That was 18.4% the 1979-2000 average.

Glaciers around the world are retreating at unprecedented rates as temperatures rise due to climate change. Some ice caps, glaciers and even an ice shelf have disappeared altogether in this century and many more are retreating so rapidly that they may vanish within a matter of decades
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28 Sep 2009

Wild weather in the year ahead, scientists predict

guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2009

[Fuct Jup]

[I]Firstly, only an idiot would base his anti-Climate Change thesis on one single summer. Secondly, temperatures overall are on the rise, especially winter temperatures that have been climbing steadily, as have water temperatures. Fluxes in the jet stream such as "El Niño are effecting ocean temperatures, which are far more pertinent the debate than how many days Fuct Jup could suntan his balls.

How about this fact based Antartic's summer?

Not News? Antarctic Ice Melt Lowest in Satellite History

The ice melt during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the lowest ever recorded in the satellite history:


The above figure was adapted by World Climate Report from Tedesco M., and A. J. Monaghan, 2009. An updated Antarctic melt record through 2009 and its linkages to high-latitude and tropical climate variability. Geophysical Research Letters, 36, L18502, doi:10.1029/2009GL039186:

“A 30-year minimum Antarctic snowmelt record occurred during austral summer 2008–2009 according to spaceborne microwave observations for 1980–2009. Strong positive phases of both the El-Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and the Southern Hemisphere Annular Mode (SAM) were recorded during the months leading up to and including the 2008–2009 melt season.”

Not a peep from the climate alarmist media. Now, if the melt had been a record high…….

Climate Research News » Not News? Antarctic Ice Melt Lowest in Satellite History

[ELVIS]

Don't confuse cockforbreath with facts...

[FORD]

Facts? Some bullshit spew from a right wing Murdoch funded blog in Australia doesn't qualify as "facts".

[Nickdfresh]

Don't confuse cockforbreath with facts...

Dude, you listen to Alex Jones. You wouldn't know a fact if somebody shit it into a bedpan you pulled out from under some old hag, Man-Nurse.

Here's some actual science affiliated with an Ivy League school:

Peering Under The Ice Of Collapsing Polar Coast

ScienceDaily (Oct. 8, 2009) — Starting this month, a giant NASA DC-8 aircraft loaded with geophysical instruments and scientists will buzz at low level over the coasts of West Antarctica, where ice sheets are collapsing at a pace far beyond what scientists expected a few years ago. The flights, dubbed Operation Ice Bridge, are an effort by NASA in cooperation with university researchers to image what is happening on, and under, the ice, in order to estimate future sea-level rises that might result.

Since 2003, laser measurements of ice surfaces from NASA's ICESat satellite have shown that vast ice masses in Greenland and West Antarctica are thinning and flowing quickly seaward. Last month, a report in the journal Nature based on the satellite's measurements showed that some parts of the Antarctic area to be surveyed have been sinking 9 meters (27) feet a year; in 2002, one great glacial ice shelf jutting from land over the ocean on the Antarctic Peninsula simply disintegrated and floated away within days. NASA's satellite reaches the end of its life this year, and another will not go up until 2015; in the interim, Operation Ice Bridge flights will continue and expand upon the satellite mission.

In addition to lasers, the plane will carry penetrating radars to measure snow cover and the thickness of ice to bedrock, and a gravity-measuring system run by Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory that will, for the first time, plot the geometry and depth of ocean waters under the ice shelves. The gravity study is seen as key because many scientists believe warm ocean currents may be the main force pulling the ice sheets seaward, melting the undersides of ice shelves and thus removing the buttresses that hold back the far greater masses of ice on land.

"What our colleagues see from modeling of these glaciers is that warm ocean water is providing the thermal energy to melt the ice," said Lamont geophysicist Michael Studinger, a co-leader of the gravity team who will be on some of the flights. "To really understand how the glaciers are going to behave, we need the firsthand measurements of water shape and depth." Earlier this year, an icebreaker cruise co-led by another Lamont scientist, Stan Jacobs, sent an automated submarine to look under the region's Pine Island Glacier, which has been moving forward rapidly in recent years. Its bed, where the ice contacts rock, is below sea level, and scientists are concerned about what would happen if a sudden large movement were to introduce seawater underneath. The plane flights, over some six weeks starting Oct. 15, are aimed at providing a wider-scale picture of Pine Island and other targets.

For each of some 17 flights, the 157-foot DC-8--too big for runways on Antarctic bases--will make an 11-hour round trip from Punta Arenas, Chile, with two-thirds of each trip spent getting to Antarctica. There, the plane will fly survey lines as low as 1,000 feet, some of them along sinuous glacial valleys that may test the nerves of both pilots and scientists. Some flights will investigate the region's open sea ice, which also seems to be in decline. The campaign will cost about $7 million.

"We learned how fast the ice sheets are changing from NASA satellites," said Lamont geophysicist Robin Bell, who is helping lead the project. "These flights are a unique opportunity to see through the ice, and address the question of why the ice sheets are changing."

"A remarkable change is happening on Earth, truly one of the biggest changes in environmental conditions since the end of the ice age," said Tom Wagner, cryosphere program scientist at NASA headquarters in Washington. "It's not an easy thing to observe, let alone predict what might happen next. Studies like this one are key."

Investigators from the University of Washington and University of Kansas will run their own suites of instruments.

Adapted from materials provided by The Earth Institute at Columbia University.

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