The Democrats backed themselves into defending Afghanistan as being The Good War

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WTF?

The military general credited for capturing Saddam Hussein and killing the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq says he has only spoken to President Obama once since taking command of Afghanistan.

“I’ve talked to the president, since I’ve been here, once on a VTC [video teleconference],” General Stanley McChrystal told CBS reporter David Martin in a television interview that aired Sunday.

“You’ve talked to him once in 70 days?” Mr. Martin followed up.

“That is correct,” the general replied.
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How many times did any generals talk to Bush? Incidentally, the General "credited" for capturing Saddam was one of many officers pissed off that Bush's civilian assclowns in the Coalition Occupation Authority basically announced it and all but took credit for a military operation...

And instead of a steady stream of cut and pastes, perhaps you can actually give your opinion once?

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Why hasn't Obahhahhahhahhahhahhama displayed (to us, the people) any support, or explained his position regarding his foreign policy ??

On which specific subject? Or are you one of the idiots that
criticizes on some giant "nebulous" of foreign policy without actually mentioning any specifics?

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Obama has no foreign policy.

Oh, that's rich! yeah, no foreign policy, huh. This forum is getting more and more dumbed down...

You think he would have time to talk to our Generals rather than flying to Copenhagen to fight for Chicago with Oprah. He has spent less time in the White House than any other president in their first 9 months in office.

What's he going to talk to them about? He gets briefings daily, and obviously he appointed the guy who recently gave his own ballsy opinion that we should either shit or get off the pot.

How often did Bush try to speak to his senior officers in theatre?

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Last I heard, the President was still the President, whether he's inside the White House or not. And notice that the days away from the WH were not vacation days.

Besides that, the record holder for vacation days is still George W. Bush.

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How many times did any generals talk to Bush? Incidentally, the General "credited" for capturing Saddam was one of many officers pissed off that Bush's civilian assclowns in the Coalition Occupation Authority basically announced it and all but took credit for a military operation...

And instead of a steady stream of cut and pastes, perhaps you can actually give your opinion once?

I'm sure the relationship between his generals is pretty weak ever since General Odierno's objections to the release of a new round of photos of detainees being abused in Iraq that Obama was willing to share with the world.

How's that for opinion ?

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Last I heard, the President was still the President, whether he's inside the White House or not. And notice that the days away from the WH were not vacation days.

Besides that, the record holder for vacation days is still George W. Bush.

At least Bush was at his ranch working, while Obama is on his tour apologizing for for America.

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How many times did any generals talk to Bush? Incidentally, the General "credited" for capturing Saddam was one of many officers pissed off that Bush's civilian assclowns in the Coalition Occupation Authority basically announced it and all but took credit for a military operation...

And instead of a steady stream of cut and pastes, perhaps you can actually give your opinion once?

This war is Obama's war, it on his watch. Its the war he spoke of during his campain as the right war to engage in. How come the news media doesn't ask why he has not maintained regular correspondence with his top military generals? How come nobody's holding him accountable for troops that died since he took office like they did Bush?

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Bush was at his "ranch" posing once with some tools for a picture of him "brush cutting". The "ranch" was a stage prop. It didn't exist before his 1999 campaign, and he hasn't been there since his illegal occupation of the White House ended.

Working? Yeah, he was obviously "working" when he took the entire month of August 2001 off, wasn't he? We all saw the results of his "hard work". Especially that memo from August 6 that said something about an old friend of the family planning a big fireworks show in the US soon.

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This war is Obama's war, it on his watch. Its the war he spoke of during his campain as the right war to engage in. How come the news media doesn't ask why he has not maintained regular correspondence with his top military generals? How come nobody's holding him accountable for troops that died since he took office like they did Bush?

LMFAO.

So the president and "top military generals" are supposed to be pen pals, in your view?

WTF do you think the Secretary of Defense is for?

Just so that we're all clear, who else should be president be corresponding with on a regular basis? How about the assistant to the Postmaster General?

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I'm sure the relationship between his generals is pretty weak ever since General Odierno's objections to the release of a new round of photos of detainees being abused in Iraq that Obama was willing to share with the world.

Well, if there weren't a bunch of shill, incompetent shitbags with no moral courage running things under Bush with his counterproductive clusterfuck of an Iraq invasion, then the photos never would have existed to begin with because the US wouldn't have resorted to abuse, overcrowded prisons resulting from wholesale round-ups of suspects having no ties to the Sunni insurgency. And if you ever read Fiasco by Thomas Ricks, you'd know that Gen. Odeirno initially instituted the thug, "sledgehammer tactics" that alienated much of the Iraqi Sunni population and pushed those on the fence into the Baathist led insurgency early in the occupation. However, if should be stated that in an almost miraculous change of heart, Odierno adopted the precepts of intellectual counterinsurgency, and became a successful, true believer of Gen. Petraeus' basic "Hearts and Minds" strategy and seems to have become quite a good leader...

And in case you didn't notice, the first round of photos were released under the Bush Admin., and the second round really have been largely ignored...

How's that for opinion ?

I dunno. I'm not sure what it is? That it's Obama's fault that the US military and civilian incompetence was allowing Iraqi detainees to be abused in massively overcrowded prisons, and one of the reasons cited for the growth of the Iraqi insurgency BEFORE any photos were released. You see, the Iraqis really didn't need photos, they already had plenty of word-of-mouth...

Your opinion seems to be a mixture of hypocrisy, double-standards, and a useless simpleton, partisan attitude of "Democrats BAAAAADDDDD, Republicans GOOOOODDDDDD"....

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At least Bush was at his ranch working, while Obama is on his tour apologizing for for America.

Yeah, to busy for reports such as the August CIA threat briefing stating that Bin Laden was determined to attack the US. Or to see his "Antiterror Czar," Richard Clarke...

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This war is Obama's war, it on his watch.

I thought it was America's War. Even NATO's War...

Its the war he spoke of during his campain as the right war to engage in. How come the news media doesn't ask why he has not maintained regular correspondence with his top military generals? How come nobody's holding him accountable for troops that died since he took office like they did Bush?

Um, didn't you just supply us with an article nitpicking on his supposed lack of contact with his generals? And again, what's your point of comparison? How often is the commander in chief supposed to talk to his generals? There's a chain of command involving the National Security Council first and foremost....

What do you mean "hold him accountable?" I've seen casualty figures in the media, figures that have gone up in recent weeks. But maybe genius, it's because he didn't actually send troops into Afghanistan or Iraq, that was Bush. No one "held (Bush) accountable" for Afghan War casualties, either. In fact, I recall nothing but giddiness after we supposedly won a quick victory when the Northern Alliance overthrew the Taliban...

Maybe you can explain to us in detail why that 2001-2002 'victory' slipped away?

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How many times did any generals talk to Bush? Incidentally, the General "credited" for capturing Saddam was one of many officers pissed off that Bush's civilian assclowns in the Coalition Occupation Authority basically announced it and all but took credit for a military operation...

And instead of a steady stream of cut and pastes, perhaps you can actually give your opinion once?

Bush spoke with the Generals on the ground weekly. We have an Iran missile crisis on our hands and and 2 active wars. Obama needs to wake up and look out for our troops.

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Yes, he should look out for the troops. By bringing them home. ALL of them. And FUCK what Benji NutcaseYahoo and his AIPAC flunkies think about it.

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Bush spoke with the Generals on the ground weekly.

No. He didn't. He spoke with his advisers...

We have an Iran missile crisis on our hands and and 2 active wars. Obama needs to wake up and look out for our troops.

And how would he do that anymore so than he has? How is he looking out for the troops any less than any previous admin?