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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21889

    DNA Test On 'Hitler's Skull' Shows It Belongs To Someone Else

    There was a show on History channel I saw last week. Turns out the piece of skull with a bullet hole in it that the Russians have had in their possession since WWII actually is from a woman under age of 40.

    Hitler's skull is really a woman's: Fresh doubts over death after tests on bullet hole | Mail Online

    By Mail Foreign Service
    Last updated at 3:11 PM on 28th September 2009

    Adolf Hitler may not have shot himself dead and perhaps did not even die in his bunker, it emerged yesterday.

    A skull fragment believed for decades to be the Nazi leader’s has turned out to be that of a woman under 40 after DNA analysis.

    Scientists and historians had long thought it to be conclusive proof that Hitler shot himself in the head after taking a cyanide pill on 30 April 1945 rather than face the ignominy of capture.

    The piece of skull - complete with bullet hole - had been taken from outside the Fuhrer’s bunker by the Russian Army and preserved by Soviet intelligence.

    Now the story of Hitler’s death will have to rewritten as a mystery - and conspiracy theorists are likely to latch on to the possibility that he may not have died in the bunker at all.


    The traditional story is that Hitler committed suicide with Eva Braun as the Russians bombarded Berlin.

    Although some historians doubted he shot himself and suggested it was Nazi propaganda to make him a hero, the hole in the skull fragment seemed to settle the argument when it was put on display in Moscow in 2000.

    But DNA analysis has now been performed on the bone by American researchers.

    Adolf Hitler

    Where is he? The skull the Soviets found in 1946 is not Adolf Hitler's, tests show

    'We know the skull corresponds to a woman between the ages of 20 and 40,' said University of Connecticut archeologist Nick Bellantoni.

    'The bone seemed very thin; male bone tends to be more robust. And the sutures where the skull plates come together seemed to correspond to someone under 40.' Hitler was 56 in April 1945.

    Mr Bellantoni flew to Moscow to take DNA swabs at the State Archive and was also shown the bloodstained remains of the bunker sofa on which Hitler and Braun were believed to have killed themselves.

    'I had the reference photos the Soviets took of the sofa in 1945 and I was seeing the exact same stains on the fragments of wood and fabric in front of me, so I knew I was working with the real thing,' he said.

    His astonishing results have been broadcast in the U.S. in a History Channel documentary titled Hitler's Escape.
    Adolf Hitler and his mistress Eva Braun

    Is it hers? Eva Braun died aged 33 and the skull was from a woman under 40

    According to witnesses, the bodies of Hitler and Braun were wrapped in blankets and carried to the garden just outside the bunker, placed in a bomb crater, doused with petrol and set ablaze.

    In May 1945 a Russian forensics team dug up what was presumed to be the dictator’s body. Part of the skull was missing, apparently the result of the suicide shot. The remaining piece of jaw matched his dental records, according to his captured dental assistants. And there was only one testicle.

    A year later the missing skull fragment was found on the orders of Stalin, who remained suspicious about Hitler’s fate.

    Just how and when he died is now shrouded in mystery. Mr Bellantoni said it was unlikely the bone was Braun’s, who was 33.

    'There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards,' he said. 'Many people died near the bunker.'
    The bunker: Where Hitler and Braun's bodies were said to be burned and buried

    The bunker: Where Hitler and Braun's bodies were said to be burned and buried

    Unknown to the world, the corpse then believed to be Hitler's was interred in Magdeburg, East Germany.

    There it remained long after Stalin’s death in 1953.

    Finally, in 1970, the KGB dug up the corpse, cremated it and secretly scattered the ashes in a river.

    Only the jawbone (which remains away from public view), the skull fragment and the bloodstained sofa segments were preserved in the deep archives of Soviet intelligence.

    Mr Bellantoni studied the remains after flying to Moscow to inspect the gruesome Hitler trophies at the State Archive.

    He was allowed only one hour with the Hitler trove, during which time he applied cotton swabs and took DNA samples.

    The samples were then flown back to Connecticut.

    At the university’s centre for applied genetics, Linda Strausbaugh closed her lab for three days to work exclusively on the Hitler project

    She said: ‘We used the same routines and controls that would have been used in a crime lab.’

    To her surprise, a small amount of viable DNA was extracted.

    She then replicated this through a process known as molecular copying to provide enough material for analysis.

    ‘We were very lucky to get a reading, despite the limited amount of genetic information,’ she said.
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49361

    #2
    Dude, Hitler's dead. Even if he got out of Berlin, he was a shivering vegetable with Parkinson's disease and he wouldn't have lived long with out a large support staff that scattered after the Soviets hit Berlin...

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59227

      #3
      Well, he's dead now regardless, because he would be well over 100 by now.
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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #4
        I remember when I was young seeing the tabloids with headlines like "Adolf Hitler Alive in Argentina" or some such thing. Along with some blurry hidden camera pic of an old guy. Haven't seen one of those headlines in a long, long time.
        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35508

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          Well, he's dead now regardless, because he would be well over 100 by now.
          I thought he would be running the BCE...

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49361

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            Well, he's dead now regardless, because he would be well over 100 by now.
            I'm reading Beevor's The Fall of Berlin 1945 now. Hitler was around 56 during the last days of the Reich, but was said to look at least 20 years older and was completely deranged by that point and having fantasies of a final victory with armies that didn't exist anymore. Even the hard core Nazis had no more use for him alive, and it's pretty well documented that Hitler thought of any escape from Berlin to be cowardly if possible at all...

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            • Kristy
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 16548

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              Well, he's dead now regardless, because he would be well over 100 by now.
              Not good enough. Obviously, a lot of money was spent and scientific research that could have been put to better use wasted on a fact that even a single-cell amoeba already knows. Hooray for progress.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49361

                #8
                Incidentally, I'm still waiting for some other media to pick up on this, otherwise it's in the silly "Batboy" category. I'd like to know how they verified or got a sample of his DNA? Although I believe Hitler has close relatives that defected to the US during the War and of course changed their names...

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32902

                  #9
                  They say Hitler could have escaped to Antarctica. Ok. I've been to Antarctica and put it this way, living in Antarctica would be worse than being in hell. I would rather be warm in hell than freezing in Antarctica and during the warmer season, it smells like penguin shit.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • VanHalener
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5451

                    #10
                    ~Hitler and his entire army should be found, dug up, encased in raw sewage and reburried~
                    ~Only you can prevent low volume~

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                    • GAR
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10881

                      #11
                      Please, I'll have a slice of Pork Koran on my Auschwitz Pease Soufflee please.

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                      • Grant
                        Sniper
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 881

                        #12
                        I'm pretty certain that the body (the one with one testicle) was said to have been Hitler's, according to interviews with Hitler's dental staff who recounted the jaw structure from memory which matched those of the charred body found and surviving x-rays of the skull which were done after the assassination attempt in 1944. The problem though was that since part of that skull was missing - leading many to assume was from the result of gunfire - the brain itself was well preserved with no bullet tracks through it. I guess that part of the skull came from elsewhere. Anyhoo, I'm satisfied in the belief that Hitler shot himself in the head whilst taking a cyanide capsule then burned by his cronies to spare him being put on display in a Soviet museum.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49361

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VanHalener
                          ~Hitler and his entire army should be found, dug up, encased in raw sewage and reburried~
                          Hitler, yes. But I don't agree with the entire army part. There were some decent folk doing the wrong thing for the right reasons in the German Wehrmacht, and even in the Waffen SS --to a much lessor extent though. That's not to say that the average German soldiers didn't commit atrocities because many did on the Eastern Front especially. However, many fought desperately to halt the Soviet advance and were essentially left in cow pastures and unmarked graves. They were simply fighting for their home against a terrible retribution that their families may not have deserved. Also, keep in mind that good men in the form of Allied pilots dropped incendiary bombs on women and children. Some also killed prisoners not unlike the Nazis did. So, it's not black or white...

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35508

                            #14
                            In any case I thought the 1 testicle thing was a myth put about by allied propaganda???

                            Plus would his balls not have been burnt?

                            I think this story is pretty suspect.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 59227

                              #15
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