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U.S. defense bill would pay Taliban to switch sides - Yahoo! News
I busted out laughing when I read this, and I just had to share.
Go Barack!
I busted out laughing when I read this, and I just had to share.
Go Barack!
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February 19, 2008
A Bush / Sunni Alliance Against the Shia?
Paying Insurgents Not to Fight
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
It is impossible to keep up with all the Bush regime's lies. There are simply too many. Among the recent crop, one of the biggest is that the "surge" is working.
Launched last year, the "surge" was the extra 20,000 - 30,000 US troops sent to Iraq. These few extra troops, Americans were told, would finally supply the necessary forces to pacify Iraq.
This claim never made any sense. The extra troops didn't raise the total number of US soldiers to more than one-third the number every expert has said is necessary in order to successfully occupy Iraq.
The real purpose of the "surge" was to hide another deception. The Bush regime is paying Sunni insurgents $800,000 a day not to attack US forces. That's right, 80,000 members of an "Awakening group," the "Sons of Iraq," a newly formed "US-allied security force" consisting of Sunni insurgents, are being paid $10 a day each not to attack US troops. Allegedly, the Sons of Iraq are now at work fighting al Qaeda.
This is a much cheaper way to fight a war. We can only wonder why Bush didn't figure it out sooner.
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And how did that work out? When Bush did it, it was "lies" and "deception."
Now "it's called counterinsurgency?" Sure... :lmaoComment
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LMAO!
Nick sucks dick...again...
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LOL...if there's one thing that'll convert a religious fanatic, it's cold, hard cash...Twistin' by the pool.Comment
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bueno bob; LOL...if there's one thing that'll convert a religious fanatic, it's cold, hard cash...
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P.S. Cause it shure ain't Women. I mean if some fine white chicks at a strip club before 911 won't get these, -Children of "The" Better God- to mellow out maybe some cold hard cash will.
P.S.S. Or maybe we could go blow thier fukking heads off, and coral some of them in Cuba.....oh wait, this works too.Last edited by thome; 10-28-2009, 01:46 PM.Comment
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Now, that's a "strawman argument!"
Because I said the military should do JUST THAT as early as 2005 here --and I was of course labeled a "terrorist sympathizer" by the then flock of Neo Con dickheads for saying that instead of trying to exterminate the Sunni fighters and effectively side with the Shiites in their civil war, we should make common cause with them against al Qaida and pressure the Iraqi Shiite militia gov't to accept greater plurality. Then after the Bush Admin allowed this as they ceded the running of the war to the "dissenters" (that were initially against it) and effectively let the counterinsurgency brains fight the war in a more sophisticated manner, the same Neofuckwits crowed about a "great victory." (which it wasn't, we could have done it from the beginning)...
It's part of acknowledging that you pacify people by delegating authority and resources to them, not by using massive firepower and attrition...Comment
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It hasn't worked in Iraq, and it won't work here. Not only is it pathetic to try and bribe your enemy to stop fucking with you, it's just plain fucking stupid and doesn't work.Now, that's a "strawman argument!" Because I said the military should do JUST THAT as early as 2005 here --and I was of course labeled a "terrorist sympathizer" by the then flock of Neo Con dickheads for saying that instead of trying to exterminate the Sunni fighters and effectively side with the Shiites in their civil war, we should make common cause with them against al Qaida and pressure the Iraqi Shiite militia gov't to accept greater plurality. Then after the Bush Admin allowed this as they ceded the running of the war to the "dissenters" (that were initially against it) and effectively let the counterinsurgency brains fight the war in a more sophisticated manner, the same Neofuckwits crowed about a "great victory." (which it wasn't, we could have done it from the beginning)...
It's part of acknowledging that you pacify people by delegating authority and resources to them, not by using massive firepower and attrition...Comment
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Um, actually it did. It dramatically dropped levels of violence and has reduced US casualties there to almost nothing. What actually hasn't worked in the shitty Iraqi gov't, which is why we should leave...
It's not that simple dummy. It's about reaching out and engagement. Read an actual book on what does and doesn't work (Fiasco by Thomas Ricks for starters). But dividing and conquering/carrot and stick does work. It's the only way to work at this point because we're not really their enemy, their Afghan competitors are. And furthermore the Taliban are not some monolithic movement where every commander/warlord is the same...Not only is it pathetic to try and bribe your enemy to stop fucking with you, it's just plain fucking stupid and doesn't work.Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-28-2009, 02:59 PM.Comment
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You mean where 150 people were blown up on Monday? Occupation never works. It doesn't matter if you pay off one side, or install your own leaders. Never works.
And stop beginning sentences with "um," it's weak.
It was your favorite president who said he wanted to change their society and not have the Taliban go back to their old insane ways. Now they're going to be our allies? Sure, whatever. That's not war, that's politics.Comment
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