Afghan War to Expand, but with "Endgame"

[Seshmeister]

If he was still alive I don't see what difference killing or even capturing him would make.

He's only a boogey man for Americans, he doesn't run Islamic terrorism, noone does.

[jacksmar]

"I agree with what Mike Malloy says about 99% of the time."

There it is!!!!!!! Mike Malloy: Commie Lib for Dummies.
Tinfoil theories and no facts. Just when you suspect someone is a wandering chanting puffin, FORD reveals his bleat source.

Bush free Friday? Can't do it. Didn't that wimp get fired for being BORING!!

President Bend Over caught his muslim brother Osama? No? Thought there wasn't anything Bend Over couldn't do. Why are we discussing this? President Bend Over said this was the war he would shine the light on over 6 years ago.

You guys are too easily duped.

[Nickdfresh]

I always thought Obama would be a 1 term President. (If he doesn't appoint himself Dictatator first).
Now I'm wondering If he'll make it to be a 1/2 term President before he's run out of town on a rail.
He's proving himself to be a big nothing, Angering, and alienating both the right, the left, and the moderates.
That's what we get when we elect a President with no core values , Just another career politician with different colored skin (which is the big reason he was elected in the first place).

So. Do you support the Afghan mission or are you against it? I'm not sure WTF a "Dictatator" is? Someone who can write shit down?

Second, I do not agree with this position and think we should largely get out. But to say he has "no core values" is kind of silly shit based on this or any other issue.

Thirdly, he did not create this clusterfuck, he inherited from the assclowns that Jacksoff voted for.

[Nickdfresh]

"I agree with what Mike Malloy says about 99% of the time."

There it is!!!!!!! Mike Malloy: Commie Lib for Dummies.
Tinfoil theories and no facts. Just when you suspect someone is a wandering chanting puffin, FORD reveals his bleat source.

Bush free Friday? Can't do it. Didn't that wimp get fired for being BORING!!

President Bend Over caught his muslim brother Osama? No? Thought there wasn't anything Bend Over couldn't do. Why are we discussing this? President Bend Over said this was the war he would shine the light on over 6 years ago.

You guys are too easily duped.

Dude, did you graduate high school yet? Seriously, you shtick is painfully stupid and and so 2008 at this point...

If you're asking "why we are discussing this," then you're in the wrong forum, moron and need to GTFO...

[ZahZoo]

I like the fact that we're giving the military the requested resources to perform their objectives and setting some time-tables to move out of this thing...

But I am wondering now in 8 years... are we really fighting a war or just "nation building"? I guess some of both.

I'd really like to see much more international pressure on the Afgan government to clean up and take charge of their own back yard. Enough with the fancy hats crap... they need to take charge now not 18 months from now.

[Hardrock69]

Personally, I am in favor of sending 100,000 additional troops, forming a line of death to start at one end of Assramistan, then walk towards the other end, killing anything that even looks at them funny. Oh, and post soldiers along the borders at the other end, so the sobbing, frightened little children (otherwise known as Taliban or Al-Quaeda) have nowhere to hide, and get squashed like the bugs they are.

Seriously....ONLY 30,000 additional troops? Sounds like we are going to be in this quagmire a lot longer than 2-3 more years.

[Nickdfresh]

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[lesfunk]

So. Do you support the Afghan mission or are you against it? I'm not sure WTF a "Dictatator" is? Someone who can write shit down?

Second, I do not agree with this position and think we should largely get out. But to say he has "no core values" is kind of silly shit based on this or any other issue.

Thirdly, he did not create this clusterfuck, he inherited from the assclowns that Jacksoff voted for.

I think we should get the fuck out of the land of the flying carpets.
I believe he is extending this clusterfuck.

[FORD]

I like the fact that we're giving the military the requested resources to perform their objectives and setting some time-tables to move out of this thing...

But I am wondering now in 8 years... are we really fighting a war or just "nation building"? I guess some of both.

More like "pipeline building"......

[Nitro Express]

If he was still alive I don't see what difference killing or even capturing him would make.

He's only a boogey man for Americans, he doesn't run Islamic terrorism, noone does.

He was the excuse to get us over into the oil producing countries so we could control those and blackmail the rest of the world.

I will use an example. The Chinese called the Federal Reserve chairman and Treasury secretary to Bejing. The Chinese told them the US dollars we were giving them were worse than opium because at least the opium gave them pleasure during the opium wars. The Chinese told us to clean up our act and stop starting wars and meddling in other nations or they would start dumping their dollars and crash our economy. Then OPEC told China if they dump the dollar they won't get any oil.

So geopolitically the US is out to control the world's oil so they can force the world to take our worthless dollars. This is what it's all about and we have no plans on leaving the middle east anytime soon. If people think Obama is going to pull us out of there. Ha! ha! ha! Nothing is going to change with him. Change is all you will have in your pocket when he gets done with us.

[Little Texan]

Have we learned nothing from what happened to the USSR from their 80's occupation of Afghanistan? The Soviets were there for 10 years, kept sending troops, kept coming up with different battle plans and strategies, and kept spending billions of dollars only to be sent home with their tails between their legs. We all know what happened after this...the Soviet Union went bankrupt, then collapsed a few years later. History is repeating itself all over again.

[ZahZoo]

Has anyone in the history of mankind ever won a war in that shithole?

[FORD]

Has anyone in the history of mankind ever won a war in that shithole?

Nope. It's called the "Graveyard of Empires" for a reason.

The Soviet Union being the most recent example that we all remember. The Brits couldn't do it either, and that's when the sun began to set on the British Empire. Alexander the Great failed. So did Genghis Khan.

Obviously none of the above were military amateurs, but rather the greatest war machines of the time. And they all lost.

Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[standin]

You got to ask the question, why?
What is it about the place?

[Kristy]

What is it about the place?

It may be a backwards gawd-forsaken shithole but the place has a LOT of strategic value not just for pipelines but clandestine military bases, and covert CIA-funded operations. Problem is, the Taliban have all the quality real-estate for such plans to take shape.