Euthanasia: Mercy or Murder?

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  • PETE'S BROTHER
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2007
    • 12678

    #31
    Originally posted by binnie
    Mercy. No question.
    agreed
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    • PETE'S BROTHER
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2007
      • 12678

      #32
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      Falling thousands of feet wouldn't be so bad, good fun really. Lots of people pay to do that.

      The only problem is the last few feet...

      Sky Diver Says "I'm Dead, Bye" | Big Humor
      nope, it's the sudden stop at the end.
      Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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      • binnie
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • May 2006
        • 19145

        #33
        My mom suffers from MS, has done for 26 years. Can't walk, can't cook, can't shower herself, and lives a life controlled by when someone is available to help her on an off the toilet.

        I quite often wonder how much worse it'll get before she has no quality of life whatsoever - having endured a body slowly rebelling against her almost her entire lifetime, anyone who would deny her the authority or ability to make a descision on whether or not she wanted to live can gladly fuck off.

        There is a difference between not wanting to live and actively wanting to die. But with an ever-increasing ageing population, these our issues that we need to FORCE into the forum of debate.
        The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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        • Kristy
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 16751

          #34
          Originally posted by Seshmeister
          Euthanasia is fine by me as long as there are safeguards in place.

          Money shouldn't come into it though.
          It should never become a business of profit as it has with animals. Could be a food chain type of ethic but humans should never be euthanized by organized groups despite what medical credentials they may or may not have. If you death is immanent due to untreatable standards of your disease and you're in tremendous suffering and/or pain and adding to family debt for medical cost then by all means you should have the (personal) right to make the choice to die.

          And on a side note, none of you should be pussies and fail to become a organ donor at your next driver's license renewal.

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35755

            #35
            Originally posted by Kristy
            If you death is immanent due to untreatable standards of your disease and you're in tremendous suffering and/or pain and adding to family debt for medical cost then by all means you should have the (personal) right to make the choice to die.
            One of the many problems in living in a country without a civilized health care system...

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            • thome
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Mar 2005
              • 6678

              #36
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              One of the many problems in living in a country without a civilized health care system...
              Dude, c'mon think...


              We are America we are light years ahead of the game....bro ...man.

              There are many organizations set up, but until you have helped a family member thru it. I guess you wouldn't know..?

              If you have perhaps you haven't done that in America...no harsh, i'm just say'n//

              This is the confusion you get when responding to a objectivley incorrect statement written as if it was a issue of concern.. by the thread creator...dude...
              Last edited by thome; 02-22-2010, 06:00 PM.

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              • Anonymous
                Banned
                • May 2004
                • 12749

                #37
                Originally posted by Kristy
                adding to family debt for medical cost
                Doesn't it suddenly become clear why all those hypocrite sons of bitches claim that euthanasia is a crime?

                Can't we allow people the choice to die, and kill those profiting from a suffering person too?

                Cheers! :bottle:

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                • chefcraig
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 12172

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  If you death is immanent due to untreatable standards of your disease and you're in tremendous suffering and/or pain and adding to family debt for medical cost then by all means you should have the (personal) right to make the choice to die.
                  Living wills do not cover this?









                  “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                  ― Stephen Hawking

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                  • LoungeMachine
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 32576

                    #39
                    Originally posted by thome
                    Dude, c'mon think...


                    .
                    You first....

                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                    • thome
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 6678

                      #40
                      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                      You first....


                      Ok I'll bite ..Who's there..?

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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #41
                        I don't support the term Euthanasia, at least as it's defined here.

                        This implies medical people have a responsibility to help a person end their life.

                        Not acceptable...medical people should be used for life-saving measures only.

                        If a person really wants to die, they should have their family steal enough potassium chloride to inject in them or their IV to stop their heart. Leave the doctors, nurses, and profiteers out of it.
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35755

                          #42
                          You don't seem to undertand what euthanasia is.

                          It is a deliberate intervention undertaken with the express intention of ending a life, to relieve intractable suffering. So the example you give would be euthanasia.

                          Your simplistic idea completely misses the whole debate. The family you describe could currently be charged with theft and murder, some people think that is unjust.

                          Your libertarianism doesn't work here because with no government/legal framework how do you distinguish between the family member who murders or the one that does it out of love to end suffering?
                          Last edited by Seshmeister; 02-23-2010, 07:45 AM.

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            You don't seem to undertand what euthanasia is.

                            It is a deliberate intervention undertaken with the express intention of ending a life, to relieve intractable suffering. So the example you give would be euthanasia.

                            Your simplistic idea completely misses the whole debate. The family you describe could currently be charged with theft and murder.
                            I understand full well what euthanasia is.

                            Relieving suffering is a noble idea, but the medical establishment should have no part in that if it results in deliberate death.
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • binnie
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • May 2006
                              • 19145

                              #44
                              But families shouldn't have to risk criminal prosecutions for ending a loved one's sufferings either....
                              The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                              • BigBadBrian
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 10625

                                #45
                                Originally posted by binnie
                                But families shouldn't have to risk criminal prosecutions for ending a loved one's sufferings either....
                                Sure they should. That's the law.

                                Life's full of hard choices.
                                “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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