Focus On The Family Takes A Stand On "Christmas"

[standin]

You know Kristy, it is one day out of the year, leave the Christians and their holiday alone. Why don't you really display how tough you are and post some anti Muslim rhetoric. I would not recommend it though, many have been threatened or killed for such actions. Oh and Merry Christmas!

actually, when hunting for food, you hunt the food you prefer to eat, even when hunting for substance.
Your silliness is silly. Christmas was not "your" holiday. The same as most holidays are adapted. The only holiday Jesus partook in was the passover. He did that once a year. And that was the only holiday Jesus "endorsed." He even adapted that holiday.

[Nitro Express]

I lived in the middle east for awhile and Islam is as fucked up as christianity is. In Iran they have a muslim sect that worships Muhammed's brother. Another thing the muslims like to do is call other muslims "inovators" and there is this huge us vs them over who interprets the law in the koran correctly. They are just as nuts. The average muslim over there wants to make a living, get laid, and enjoy some of the good things in life just like 99% of the rest of the world's population does.

[Nitro Express]

The pilgrims, Williamsburg, Ronoake all get mixed up. Basically Europeans came here for various reasons. Lief Erikson came here 1,000 years ago.

Those have NOTHING to do with The United States. This country is about the individual and their God given right to be an individual and persue their happiness. God as being the creator and the individual having the right to believe what that means in their own way. If you read what Jefferson penned it has nothing to do with Christianity but The Individual and the freedom for them to persue happiness on their terms and not an organized body.

[Nickdfresh]

Your turn to bring the Vestal Virgins this year

In this town? Good luck, brotha...

[Nickdfresh]

All of this "Attack on Christmas" shit has long ago been debunked as nothing more than pandering to the "flock" (of sheep) for money as it is little more than a fund raising campaign under the premise of "give, cause we're under siege!!"

Whores...

[kwame k]

In this town? Good luck, brotha...

Same problem I had last year

[Susie Q]

How many who post here celebrate Christmas by going to midnight mass, or going to their local churches? The whole "Reason for the Season" of Baby Jesus. How many here who have children discuss the story of the three wisemen, etc.? To me Christmas was lost many, many, many years ago when it became all commercialism.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Kwame er...Kwanza, Happy Hanukkah, and a blessed new year.

[Hardrock69]

Your turn to bring the Vestal Virgins this year

Sounds like THE WAY to celebrate the end of the year! :D

[Hardrock69]

I lived in the middle east for awhile and Islam is as fucked up as christianity is. In Iran they have a muslim sect that worships Muhammed's brother. Another thing the muslims like to do is call other muslims "inovators" and there is this huge us vs them over who interprets the law in the koran correctly. They are just as nuts. The average muslim over there wants to make a living, get laid, and enjoy some of the good things in life just like 99% of the rest of the world's population does.

No shit. I may rip on Christianity, but at least they don't cut some chick's head off for being in the same room as an unrelated male.....

[alexpgrimes]

jesus was born in july. they changed the date to coinside with the pagon winter sostice.

[FORD]

How many who post here celebrate Christmas by going to midnight mass, or going to their local churches? The whole "Reason for the Season" of Baby Jesus. How many here who have children discuss the story of the three wisemen, etc.? To me Christmas was lost many, many, many years ago when it became all commercialism.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Kwame er...Kwanza, Happy Hanukkah, and a blessed new year.

I always wanted to do the Midnight Mass thing just once, even though I'm not Catholic. Last time I was in Tucson for Christmas I tried to talk my family into going to the San Xavier mission, which is this really cool and really old church on the south end of town. Problem is I was on the north end of town and didn't have my own wheels, so I couldn't make it out there.



I did do a Christmas Eve church thing a few years back, but when the church had the exact same service three years in a row, I got bored with that. Obviously you only have one story to work with, but you can at least change up the presentation a little.

[kwame k]

I still do Midnight Mass and stop by the Church every so often. There's something comforting about getting into the rhythm of a Catholic Mass. Since I was never raped by a Priest or beaten the shit out of by a Nun, I still have fond memories of The True Faith.

[jhale667]

I still do Midnight Mass and stop by the Church every so often. There's something comforting about getting into the rhythm of a Catholic Mass. Since I was never raped by a Priest or beaten the shit out of by a Nun, I still have fond memories of The True Faith.

I like going occasionally when services aren't being conducted, agree there's something comforting about just sitting in the place...the joke always was Xmas midnight mass was when the "fair-weather" Catholics came out...

Never had any bad experiences with Priests (was an altar boy for a few years as I mentioned) but yeah, we used to get the shit kicked out of us by the nuns at my parochial school...it was like they'd sent them to combat training or some shit...they were just brutal, and like Ninjas!

[GO-SPURS-GO]

it was like they'd sent them to combat training or some shit...they were just brutal, and like Ninjas!

[standin]

I lived in the middle east for awhile and Islam is as fucked up as christianity is. In Iran they have a muslim sect that worships Muhammed's brother. Another thing the muslims like to do is call other muslims "inovators" and there is this huge us vs them over who interprets the law in the koran correctly. They are just as nuts. The average muslim over there wants to make a living, get laid, and enjoy some of the good things in life just like 99% of the rest of the world's population does.

Ehh. Then you got the Mormon sect. And let us not forget the Jim Jones. And that seems to be a running theme. Poison the whole community to save "us" from "them"

I think people want more than just to get laid. I thing people want to be secure in there beings.
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Another thing the Christians like to do is call other Christians "innovators" and there is this huge us vs them over who interprets the the Bible correctly.
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People have thee right to be fundie to an extent. I value fundies Christian, Jew, and Muslim, alike. Ehh and Hindu. It is not easy to live pois.

But just like people can become unhealthy with food, a people can become unhealthy with pois and with vice.

Many upon many use anything within grasp to seek admiration of a rightness they perceive. The "you like me because you agree with me" mentality and that mentality is even in the secular section.

The means justifies the ends mentality, which is so prevalent, fosters compliances in corruption. The "he is one of ours, his corruption is OK because he is working for the "good." When in no way can corruption do anything but fester more corruption. You may be able to turn the other cheek, but one should not turn a blind eye.

Is what Christmas has become healthy? I do not know. Do I like the Spiritual side, of course I do. Do I like the cards and gifts, of course I do.

Would it be an incredible thing if the wordily and worldly effects only honored the wonder, miracles, amazements, and awe-inspiring that are God's with reverence. Of course, it would.

Do I wish people would not be compelled to lie, cheat and steal during a certain time of year. Of course I do. But in reality, it happens all times of year just as much. When ratio with the same triangle of opportunity, motive and perceived need.