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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59558

    How Progressives Can Move Obama to the Left

    Published on Sunday, December 27, 2009 by Firedoglake
    How Progressives Can Move Obama to the Left

    by Cenk Uygur
    After talking about this with a great many progressives on our show, I’ve come to some conclusions. These are so self-evident that they will be viewed as obvious in hindsight.

    Does he mean well or does he have bad intentions? Come on, don’t be ridiculous. Of course, he means well. But in his own mind, George Bush thought he meant well too (for the most part). I’m positive that Obama thinks that he is doing the best he can to bring about as much change as he can within the limits of this system.

    Is he a true progressive or a corporatist sell out? Well, that depends on what you mean. Has he wound up helping corporate America tremendously through health care "reform," finance "reform," etc.? Well, Wall Street certainly seems to think so (and so do most progressives). Did he do that because he thought, "I can’t wait to help corporate America and screw over the little guy"? No, I’m sure he thought he had to accommodate the powers that be in order to affect any change at all in this system. But the bottom line has been the same, either way – the system has been tweaked but corporate America chugs along with even more government largesse than before.

    I’m sure Obama is a progressive that would help the average American if he thought he could. But apparently he thinks he can’t. He can only bring them a small amount of change because of what he thinks the system will allow.

    You can criticize him for lack of imagination, duplicity during the campaign, lack of spine and political miscalculation. And you might be right about some or all of that, but all of those aren’t the essence of Obama. The core of Obama is a man who is a cautious politician. That is what he is at his center. He can’t help himself. Asking him to be something else is asking a rock to be a little less hard. He is what he is.

    So, what Obama does by his nature is find the middle ground. As an excellent innate politician, he will find the political center of any field and rush to it. That’s where elections are won – the center. So, that’s why he sounded so progressive during the primaries, because that was the center of the left. And why he sounded like such a reformer during the general election because the great majority of Americans desperately wanted change.

    So, what happened to that Obama? The country is the same, so why did Obama drop the progressive reformer angle and go toward the right and corporate America? Because his field changed. He went from campaigning all across the country to being in the middle of Washington, DC. The center of Washington is very different than the center of the country.

    The Washington bubble leans far more to the right than the rest of the country (poll after poll indicates this). The corporate media in Washington are pros at protecting the status quo and view people who challenge the system as fringe players. A natural politician would naturally move right to accommodate this new environment. Obama can’t help himself. Why does a scorpion sting, why does a horse gallop? Because they were made to. Hoping Obama snaps out of it is hoping against reason and nature.

    So, what can we do? Well, showing him data on where the American people actually stand didn’t help at all. Nearly a dozen polls showed overwhelming support for the public option across the country. That didn’t budge him. There are now polls showing 40% of Democrats are not going to show up in the 2010 elections because they are so disenchanted. It hasn’t even made a dent in Obama. The Washington force field is strong.

    So, our only hope is to move the island. We have to move his center. If we can move what he perceives to be the center, he will naturally flow to it. In Lost, when they move the island they move across time. In our case, when we move the island we need to move across the political spectrum.

    Right now, Obama perceives the center of the country to be somewhere between Dick Cheney and Harry Reid. Do you know where that leaves him? Joe Lieberman. That’s why we’re in the sorry shape we’re in now.

    The reality is that Howard Dean is a moderate. Progressives in Vermont were upset with him when he was governor because they thought he was too far right. I just heard from someone who was on a cruise that The Nation organized and that Howard Dean spoke at. The crowd on the cruise nearly booed him when he spoke because they thought he was far too moderate.

    If you look at Dean’s policies, they are right down the middle of the country. That’s part of the reason his 50 state strategy worked so well. But the establishment media hate him. Why? Because he points out when they’re doing something wrong – and he winds up being proven right in the end. There’s nothing that irritates the establishment more than that.

    As things stand, Howard Dean is perceived to be to the left of all of the Democratic senators in Washington (not because he’s more liberal than Bernie Sanders or Harry Reid; it’s because unlike them, he’s willing to fight for his positions (sorry Bernie, at this point, it’s true)). That’s unconscionable. Washington has shifted so far right that Dean is considered some sort of wild-eyed liberal. We have to move it back if we are to have any hope that Obama will move further left (and much closer to the true center of the country).

    So, how do we do this? It’s not pretty, but it’s necessary. We have to attack Obama relentlessly from the left. Right now he is a giant that is unmoved by anything in his left flank, he keeps looking to his right and ducking and worrying and moving to accommodate them. They are so loud and so visible. It’s hard to miss them. We have to make him look left. We have to shake him off his foundation.

    Rahm Emanuel gave a wonderfully condescending interview to the Wall Street Journal where he explained that the White House has nothing to worry about from the left. That’s exactly what we have to change. Unfortunately, the only way to capture their attention and make them accommodate us rather than Fox News Channel is to hurt them. When we can put on the same kind of pain and pressure on the Obama White House as Fox does, that’s when they’ll have to move, at least to get out of the way.

    You inflict political pain by voting things down. So far progressives have been completely unwilling to do this. They got rolled on healthcare because they had no intention of putting their foot down – and everyone knew it.

    The next time Obama pushes a corporate agenda, progressives have to knock him upside the head. Deny him. Or as the kids would say, send his shit. And make a big stink out of it. Draw everyone’s attention to how far right Obama is and how out of whack he is with the American people.

    If that scares you and you start to worry about damaging a Democratic president, you’re never going to win at this game. You’re never going to get the policies you want. They don’t listen to reason, they listen to power.

    Let’s get real, we already lost the health care fight. But luckily, something even more important is up next. Financial reform. That’s where we know for a fact the American people have our back. We also already know that Obama’s Treasury Department is a joke. Tim Geithner has fought reformers in the House every step of the way. It’s time to take out a couple of lead pipes and a blow torch and go to work on his ass.

    If Obama wants to fill the legislation full of loopholes, he should be called out at every turn. We vote no and we point out in no uncertain terms that Obama is pushing that agenda to help corporate interests so that he can fill Democratic coffers.

    This has the advantage of being true. If you don’t have the stomach for being this tough on Obama and the Democrats, well then you don’t have the stomach for politics. And you will permanently be the Republican’s bitches.

    If you don’t move the island, the rest is futile. You have to shift the ground underneath them. And the only way to do that is to create such a strong and aggressive progressive movement that they cannot help but notice it – and respond to it. Move the center and you’ll move Obama. And he’ll move the country. There is no other choice.

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  • bueno bob
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22951

    #2
    Here's the thing of it all...

    Traditionally, governmental revolutions take place with the populace taking to the streets with torches and pitchforks. Of course, it's not revolutionary France anymore and we probably won't be beheading our elected leaders anytime soon. The new age is upon us, and with the advent of that, revolution could in fact come through legislation.

    That said, is revolution really what's necessary at this point? Perhaps, but you have to get people motivated enough to actually do something about it. The last time America really had a large scale uprising of the populace to make an impact on itself (and subsequently the world at large) was WWII - we were at an absolute wall that NOBODY could deny and we had to change course, and that dramatically.

    This begs the question, "Are we at that point now?". I don't know. Maybe? But the fact that I'm not completely certain that we are means that others feel like me and that leads me to believe that we're not.

    How does all that play into Obama and his Presidency? Well, Obama fashioned himself as a revolutionary candidate - and, truth told, he was. Small guy from nowhere, smart as they come and he really did want to make some good changes for the country (and anybody who says otherwise, "Oh he was full of shit from the beginning, I told ya so!" is really just fooling themselves and nobody else - quite obviously had a hate based relationship with him from jump street, either because of his politics or skin tone or a combination thereof).

    Well, now that Obama's got the office, he's still being the same politician he ever was - and, like the article says, that's a cautious one. While his detractors like to chant out catchphrases and keywords like "Socialism!", "Communism!" and "Born in Kenya!", it's pretty easy to deflate all of that with just a smattering of logic. The real truth is that Obama has gotten into office with the best of intentions and, in an effort to keep everybody happy, he's not making a lot of people happy at all. He's too much a Democratic for Republicans, but at the same time he leans too much to the right for the left to be satisfied with him.

    The sad news? Come 2012, that's going to be held against him and he's going to catch a lot of blame for health care reform (which has pretty much bottomed out) and the economy will be held against him as well. After all, the masses believed they were going to receive Utopia after his election, so why wouldn't they be pissed?

    Well, unless they did any critical thinking and realized that Utopia was never just around the bend with a single election, but I don't give most Americans that much credit when it comes to thinking.

    Anyway, some of that blame will be his - a lot of it won't, but it will fall his way just the same. Like any other sitting President, Republican or Democrat, he's got interests that have control over many of his strings and a lot of his maneuverability is compromised because of that.

    Obama's trying to avoid the pitfalls of becoming George W. Bush or, worse yet, Dick Cheney and that's quite obvious - every time he speaks in public, you can almost feel how he's attempting to separate himself from them and their way of conducting the business of Presidency. Normally I'd say that would be a wise maneuver, but with the steadfast belligerency of the Republicans in ALL areas of his Presidency (and more than a number of do-nothing Democrats who just want their paycheck with the least amount of grief), what we could really use right now is for a little Dick Cheney to rub off on Obama - when he does something RIGHT for the country, if/when special interests, Republicans and big business bitch at him, the proper response would be, in fact, "So what?". Republicans and big business are, on a very realistic note, exactly what's gotten America into the situation it's in today.

    Write your letters and buck back. Respond with the same vigor that the Republicans do. MORE. They're a party without direction or leadership and empty cans rattle the most, quite obviously. There's no telling what an organized movement could accomplish. Teabaggers be damned.

    Just say "SO WHAT?"

    That's the answer!
    Twistin' by the pool.

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    • letsrock
      Veteran
      • Mar 2007
      • 1595

      #3
      "The sad news? Come 2012, that's going to be held against him and he's going to catch a lot of blame for health care reform (which has pretty much bottomed out) and the economy will be held against him as well."

      That fact alone may sink the Democrats.

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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #4
        Just what Obama needs...to be even more to the left.
        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35750

          #5
          All they need to do is spend a few hundred million buying Congress and the voters.

          You can completely control the US government with comparatively small amounts of cash.

          In fact if you do it right you get ten times your money back.

          Otherwise how could it be even remotely possible to pursuade people that the share price of insurance companies was more important to them than the danger of losing everything if a family member gets sick???

          The rest of the Western world is looking on absolutely stunned...
          Last edited by Seshmeister; 12-29-2009, 07:19 AM.

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          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7579

            #6
            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            Otherwise how could it be even remotely possible to pursuade people that the share price of insurance companies was more important to them than the danger of losing everything if a family member gets sick???

            The rest of the Western world is looking on absolutely stunned...
            Americans are fat, lazy, and stupid.

            Remember, we are the same morons who elected George Bush as our president not once, but TWICE
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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            • ZahZoo
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 9163

              #7
              Originally posted by Guitar Shark
              Americans are fat, lazy, and stupid.

              Remember, we are the same morons who elected George Bush as our president not once, but TWICE
              That 1st comment will get you voted off the island at the next tribal council...

              Let's not forget the economic down-turns of the early 70's and 80's that were nearly as bad as today. We survived the elections and presidencies of Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and the deindustrialization that occured under them. Some would say it was some pretty dramatic economic times... I remember it when I was in high school.

              Then follow that with the Ford, Carter and Reagan period of deregulation which I would place most of the blame for today's economic shithole... Bush senior and Clinton rode out the post-Reagan growth burst until the dot.com bubble popped due to an over-inflated stock market... So GW Bush inherited that plus 9/11.

              Point is you can't pin this on the last 2 terms of Bush's presidency... the wheels of this bus started rolling as far back as Kennedy/Johnson's time.

              I see some coorelation back to Carter's presidency and him taking the blame for the early 70's economic woes. Obama could get a similar bad rap for leading during this time when much of the problem is rooted several presidencies before him...
              "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302

                #8
                I agree with your points, Zah. Taking us off the gold standard and basically allowing corporations to run this country, while great for corporations, bankings and Wall Street, has done nothing but continue to lower the standard of living for the Middle Class and Lower classes.

                What I do hold every elected official accountable for is....if you know there's a problem and do nothing to fix it or add to that problem, you should be rode out of Washington on a rail and be blamed for the current problems we have or had.
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                • Guitar Shark
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7579

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo
                  That 1st comment will get you voted off the island at the next tribal council...

                  Let's not forget the economic down-turns of the early 70's and 80's that were nearly as bad as today. We survived the elections and presidencies of Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and the deindustrialization that occured under them. Some would say it was some pretty dramatic economic times... I remember it when I was in high school.

                  Then follow that with the Ford, Carter and Reagan period of deregulation which I would place most of the blame for today's economic shithole... Bush senior and Clinton rode out the post-Reagan growth burst until the dot.com bubble popped due to an over-inflated stock market... So GW Bush inherited that plus 9/11.

                  Point is you can't pin this on the last 2 terms of Bush's presidency... the wheels of this bus started rolling as far back as Kennedy/Johnson's time.

                  I see some coorelation back to Carter's presidency and him taking the blame for the early 70's economic woes. Obama could get a similar bad rap for leading during this time when much of the problem is rooted several presidencies before him...
                  My comments were really only in relation to Sesh's point about health care reform, not about economic conditions during the various presidencies.
                  ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                  Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                  Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                  • ZahZoo
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 9163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                    My comments were really only in relation to Sesh's point about health care reform, not about economic conditions during the various presidencies.
                    Alright I'll let you off the hook this time... but watch your mouth on who you're callin fat, lazy & stupid there... lawyer scum!!
                    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                    • GAR
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10881

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZahZoo
                      That 1st comment will get you voted off the island at the next tribal council...
                      He's being completely accurate.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        #12
                        I'm very jaded about the POLITICAL PROCESS. Every time we get a new president he just turns his back on us and does the bidding of the elites. The Constitution be damned. The president has been reduced to a puppet.

                        What worries me is a currency meltdown. If the British Pound or US Dollar goes it will pull the Yen and Euro down with it. I think it's the classic situation that fiat currency always fails but this time it will be on a global level.

                        If that happens you will see things fall apart fast. Stores will run out of food in three days. Forget martial law, it's going to be a grass roots thing. The communities that can pull together in a crises will make it and the ones that can't will destroy themselves.

                        The central banks are just printing money like crazy because it's all they can do and it buys time. The people who get it are buying land away from big population centers. Where I live I'm seeing a lot of government people relocating here. Some think the whole thing is just going to unravel with a currency crises setting it all off.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32942

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                          Americans are fat, lazy, and stupid.

                          Remember, we are the same morons who elected George Bush as our president not once, but TWICE
                          No. George Bush was appointed president by the courts. He never was elected. Al Gore was.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sadaist
                            Just what Obama needs...to be even more to the left.
                            As far as I can see, Obama is on the side of crooked bankers, corporations, military contractors, health insurance companies, and pharmacutical companies. Obama is a special interest wet dream.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kwame k
                              I agree with your points, Zah. Taking us off the gold standard and basically allowing corporations to run this country, while great for corporations, bankings and Wall Street, has done nothing but continue to lower the standard of living for the Middle Class and Lower classes.

                              What I do hold every elected official accountable for is....if you know there's a problem and do nothing to fix it or add to that problem, you should be rode out of Washington on a rail and be blamed for the current problems we have or had.
                              The US Dollar has lost 96% of it's purchasing value since the Federal Reserve Act passed in 1913. It was passed along with the federal income tax which Ronald Reagan said paid the interest on the federal reserve interest on issuing the money. It's the biggest ponzi scheme but most your industrialized countries are on the same central banking system. Once you lose control of your money, you lose your country. Thomas Jefferson said that and he was right.

                              Never before in world history has so much fiat currency been issued and so much debt accrued. The world economy is unsustainable. There are more claims than there are assets by a very huge margin. We will either kill each other over the situation or agree to desolve the debt and start over. The problem is the solution needs to be global but this can be abused in the fashion of a global dictatorship. I think we cold put together a global currency with a global open board governing it but as soon as global mandates start over ruling sovergn constitutions that's trouble!
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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