they are all stupid

**FORD** · 02-08-2010, 05:54 PM

And yet, with all of her cheating, the dumb cunt still managed to say "Alaska" when ever her right wing script (which she probably didn't write - just like her book) said "America".

Unless her husband Todd wrote it. Since he's a registered member of the secessionist "Alaskan Independence Party", maybe he really DID mean to say "Alaska", since he doesn't believe in America.

**BigBadBrian** · 02-09-2010, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by FORD

And yet, with all of her cheating, the dumb cunt...

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!

Since verbal assaults against certain people using vile descriptive terms is OK, is it OK if we call Obama a "lying Negro?" Or more descriptively (and recently), a "light skinned Negro with no Negro dialect?"

There is no difference in those two types of insults.

**kwame k** · 02-09-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by BigBadBrian

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!

Since verbal assaults against certain people using vile descriptive terms is OK, is it OK if we call Obama a "lying Negro?" Or more descriptively (and recently), a "light skinned Negro with no Negro dialect?"

There is no difference in those two types of insults.

No it's not OK using the N-Word here. Why? The guy that owns this place and pays the bills doesn't want it......Really can't be any clearer then that.

As far as calling Palin a dumb cunt.....can you think of a better descriptive word for her? If she's not a text book definition of the phrase, I don't know who is.

**jhale667** · 02-09-2010, 02:07 PM

Oh, please. Not even close.

Nice try, Brie...(welcome back, btw) but you can't really compare the two. You know this, but you figured you'd try to go there anyway, huh?

Originally posted by kwame k

No it's not OK using the N-Word here. Why? The guy that owns this place and pays the bills doesn't want it......Really can't be any clearer then that.

As far as calling Palin a dumb cunt.....can you think of a better descriptive word for her? If she's not a text book definition of the phrase, I don't know who is.

Never did a better descriptor exist for her. That speech made my skin crawl - not like her voice doesn't do it to me already, but the BS she was spewing, coupled with the lame-ass crib notes -while simultaneously making the zillionth uber-lame teleprompter crack? It's like she's TRYING to see how far she can get into NEGATIVE credibility points...less than zero already...

**FORD** · 02-09-2010, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by BigBadBrian

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!

Please...... shall we look up all the things you have said about Hillary, Judy Dean, or Judas IsKerryot's wife Theresa?

**Nitro Express** · 02-09-2010, 02:12 PM

Mitt Romney will get the Republican nomination over nutball Sarah Palin. She will continue to draw lots of attention, make lot's of money but when the Republicans choose their candidate they will avoid her like the plague. Choosing her as a running mate blew McCain out of the water. It was a huge mistake and now the bitch has her 15 minutes of fame and is exploiting it to the max.

**Nitro Express** · 02-09-2010, 02:15 PM

Obama who was a champion debater at Harvard would eat the bitch for lunch if she went up against him. The Republicans need somebody who can face Obama in a public debate and not look like a fool. Sarah is a celebrity and that's it. The economy will be pretty hammered by the time we start the presidential campaign stuff and people are going to be looking for substance and solutions and not a media whore.

**jhale667** · 02-09-2010, 03:04 PM

And gee, Palin's undeniable C-word factor aside, since this is about Republicans and racism was brought up, anyone think Tom Tancredo SHOULDN"T be drawn and quartered for trying to bring back "literacy" tests for voting??

Tom Tancredo got idea for civics literacy tests critics call racist from an immigrant

Tom Tancredo got idea for civics literacy tests critics call racist from an immigrant - Denver News - The Latest Word

Last week, ex-Congressman and former presidential candidate Tom Tancredo, delivering the keynote address at the First National Tea Party Convention, drew accusations of racism when he suggested that President Barack Obama was elected partly because "we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote... People who could not even spell the word 'vote' or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House."

Tancredo scoffs at the notion that these remarks were racially motivated. As evidence, he reveals that the person who helped spur the idea of a civics literacy test for voting was what he describes as "a black guy" driving a limo in Detroit who happened to be studying for his citizenship test.

The incident took place in July 2007 during Tancredo's presidential run, when he became the sole Republican candidate to accept an invitation to speak before the NAACP convention. "I always joke about the fact that this debate was the only one I won, because I was the only one who showed up," he allows. "They had nine podiums and I went out and stood by the one with my name on it, and took all their questions."

When he flew to Detroit prior to the event, he did so solo. "I didn't travel with an entourage. It was just me when I got off the plane, and I had on jeans and a sweat shirt and a baseball hat. And the people who were putting on the debate sent a limo to pick me up.

"The driver was a black guy, and we started making conversation. He said in very precise English, 'What are you doing here?'" Tancredo goes on, effecting an Indian accent when speaking for the driver. "I said, 'Because they asked me.' He said, 'Why?' I said, 'Because I'm running for president. He said, 'Naaaah.'"

After a laugh, Tancredo continues the tale.

"I said, 'Honestly, I am running for president. I know it doesn't look like it, but I'm really running. And I'm a congressman.' And he said, 'Ah, congress,' and he picks up this sheaf of papers on the front seat and starts giving all these facts: 'There are 535 members of congress, with one-hundred in the Senate and 435 in the House. And the United States flag has thirteen stripes, standing for the original thirteen colonies...'

"I said, 'You're going to take your citizenship test?' And he said, 'Yes.' And I said, 'I'll bet we could ask any of the people out there to come over and try to answer questions about what you just said, and I'll bet you wouldn't get ten out of a hundred who would know any of this stuff.' And when I told people this story when I came home, I talked about how immigrants have to know more than people born here have to know, and isn't that ironic, to say the least."

Such subjects had been on Tancredo's mind thanks to Howard Stern and Jay Leno, who put together comedy bits in which they asked seemingly typical people basic questions, and often received moronic answers in response.

"I know I talked about this stuff at least twice on KOA," a Denver radio station where he has served as both guest and fill-in host. "We ran these things and talked about civics literacy and how bad it is. You'd see all these polls taken on college campuses, where students couldn't name the first three presidents and things like that."

In an attempt to combat this problem, Tancredo discussed possible legislation for a civics-literacy test with his chief of staff, Mac Zimmerman, who currently works for state senator Josh Penry.

"We pursued it quite far," he recalls, only to discover that "there were all kinds of problems" with a proposal of this sort. "The responsibility for developing voting requirements is at the state level, but the federal government will tell you, and has told you, what you can and can't do, and who you can't keep from voting -- although there's nothing that says who you may allow to vote.

"So we pursued it as far as we could, but it didn't look like there was anything we could get through. Well, we knew we couldn't get anything through, but I thought it would be good to at least raise the issue -- and we wouldn't have had the ability to even have a hearing about it. There would have been a lot of opposition, to be sure, so it seemed fruitless."

Nonetheless, the notion retains an appeal for Tancredo, which is why he mentioned it at the Tea Party Convention, to which he traveled at his own expense. According to him, the people he met there didn't seem anything like the loonbag stereotypes portrayed by liberals.

"They were really just regular folks who've gotten together for sort of a unique purpose -- to express a concern about the country they love," he says. "And it was fun because there was this big hotel, with lots of people going around -- the same kind of thing you see at any other political event. But no one was there to stump for anybody, or to get you to vote for anybody, or to put forth a specific agenda."

During Tancredo's speech, the reaction was enthusiastic: "There were at least three standing ovations and a bunch of interruptions, so I've got to assume my message was well-received."

Nonetheless, he was startled about the portion of his comments that got the most play.

"The only thing that was discouraging to me was I was really hoping to have a lot more attention drawn to my remarks about John McCain, who I dislike intensely and hoped wouldn't win," he says. "That was three-quarters of the speech, but the Wall Street Journal was the only one to write about that part of it. The rest took a different focus in order to embarrass, I think, the Tea Party, and to make it appear as though, well, 'We know these folks are a bunch of redneck-hillbilly racists, and Tancredo is a perfect example of that.'"

Still, Tancredo has no problem defending the concept of a civics-literacy test, which he thinks could be based on the type of citizenship test his driver in Detroit was asked to take. Indeed, he recently sent a note to Terrance Carroll, speaker of the Colorado House, challenging him to find anything racially questionable in these questions.

At the same time, Tancredo admits to some self-interest in the passage of such a measure.

"It's my belief that if you had a really well-grounded understanding of the free market and the Republic, you would more likely than not vote Republican, or at least conservative," he maintains.

That said, he concedes there may well have been as many Caucasian John McCain voters as non-native-born Obama supporters who would have failed a civics literacy test.

"Civics literacy isn't a fact of race," he emphasizes. "It's not a racial trait or characteristic, although the people who attack me all the time must consider it that."

According to Tancredo, he meets a lot of people he'd consider ignorant from a civics-literacy standpoint, "and when I look at them, they're not black, and they're not brown -- they're just stupid. This is the honest to God truth, but when I've talked about this, and when I see things on the news, I'm not picturing in my mind black people saying these things, or brown people. I'm picturing those people on Howard Stern and Jay Leno. And to the best of my recollection, I think most of them were white."

Not that such arguments are likely to convince critics that his heart is in the right place.

"I haven't had so much nasty mail since I said something about bombing Mecca," he notes. "At first, I wondered why they were so damned defensive -- but it's probably because they voted for Obama and thought I was calling them stupid. And maybe they are stupid from my perspective -- but that doesn't mean they're necessarily stupid people."

Funny, from my perspective, HE's pretty fucking stupid.

Saw this on MSNBC last night too, and the commentator noted the majority of people who voted for Obama were white...so there goes Tom's premise out the window....

But I guess we're supposed to be OK with THIS form of discrimination, since it's only against BROWN people....?

Seriously doubting his "black limo driver" was the source of said "idea" either.

**FORD** · 02-09-2010, 04:15 PM

TanKKKredo is such a joke, even Repukes wouldn't vote for him.

Funny thing is, if his "literacy tests" were actually used, and applied to everyone, most of the Chimp/Palin fans votes would be lost. Those people literally like the idea of voting for somebody as fucking stupid as they are.

Of course, in the old south, they never gave those tests to the white folks.

**Nitro Express** · 02-09-2010, 05:17 PM

Cunt isn't a racial word but ****** is. There really is no good place for the word ******. If you don't agree with a black person or don't like them, call them a cunt or a dork or a mother fucker or whatever. ****** just goes back to demeaning a race of people it goes back to times where nations thought they would be justified as using another race as work animals and property because they were another color and less. Everyone should be treated equal and the insults should be equal. Call them a swine fucking dork instead of a ******, chink, spic, paddy, wop, rag head ect...

**Nitro Express** · 02-09-2010, 05:20 PM

If you don't like Obama, don't bring his skin color into the issue. Call him a Bush chimp fucking, Sarah Palin cunt licking mother fucker who tosses Rohm Emanuel's salad and pumps Timothy Gietner off with a pnematic device.

**Blackflag** · 02-09-2010, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Nitro Express

Cunt isn't a racial word but ****** is.

It's not racist, but it's sexist. You know I'm for people calling people whatever they like, but it's logically inconsistent to be against one but not the other. Either that, or super-PC. So I see Brian's point.

**BigBadBrian** · 02-09-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Blackflag

It's not racist, but it's sexist. You know I'm for people calling people whatever they like, but it's logically inconsistent to be against one but not the other. Either that, or super-PC. So I see Brian's point.

Exactly! Racism and Misogynism are both hatred on the same level. To deny that simple fact is illogical.

Besides, calling Sarah Palin a "dumb cunt" is just another play out of the Liberal/Progressive/Socialist playbook of insulting the individual when you can't argue against their point or message.

**jhale667** · 02-09-2010, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by FORD

TanKKKredo is such a joke, even Repukes wouldn't vote for him.

Funny thing is, if his "literacy tests" were actually used, and applied to everyone, most of the Chimp/Palin fans votes would be lost. Those people literally like the idea of voting for somebody as fucking stupid as they are.

Of course, in the old south, they never gave those tests to the white folks.

Exactly, exactly.

they are all stupid

they are all stupid

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