Truth about the so called tea baggers

[Guitar Shark]

What about the times where you could go to the local greasy spoon diner, have breakfast, smoke a cigarette & enjoy your coffee?

Due to the government, we now get:

Non-grease, no transfat, no MSG, grease substitute.

No smoking indoors or withing 50 feet of front door.

Coffee that is lukewarm so that we don't spill and burn ourselves.

And that's if you can even find any mom & pop type restaurant still able to operate in this economy. Taxed and regulated right out of business.

I suppose it's in the name of saving us from ourselves. Change we can believe in. And that's not on Obama. That's on the whole damned lot of them.

You can thank corporate culture for forcing mom & pop restaurants out of business. This "taxed and regulated right out of business" stuff is largely a bunch of crap. The bigger problem is the availability of cheap, mass produced fast food and other chain restaurants that have squeezed mom and pop out of business. Hard to blame government for that when the consumers are the ones making the choice.

[FORD]

Yep. I can remember when Olympia didn't even have a goddamn McDonalds (first one in the area was built in the mid 70's). And the burgers were much better at the local drive through that was here before. Still are, actually.

[jhale667]

What about the times where you could go to the local greasy spoon diner, have breakfast, smoke a cigarette & enjoy your coffee?

Due to the government, we now get:

Non-grease, no transfat, no MSG, grease substitute.

No smoking indoors or withing 50 feet of front door.

Coffee that is lukewarm so that we don't spill and burn ourselves.

And that's if you can even find any mom & pop type restaurant still able to operate in this economy. Taxed and regulated right out of business.

I suppose it's in the name of saving us from ourselves. Change we can believe in. And that's not on Obama. That's on the whole damned lot of them.

Think Guitar Shark already summed up why there are so few Mom & Pop establishments left, but to one of your other points -

I for one am glad I don't have to smell your nasty-ass cigarette smoke while I'm trying to EAT. Or work, for that matter. THAT's actually progress! :D

I already had a "no smoking within 50 ft of" my place rule! :tongue0011:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

You can thank corporate culture for forcing mom & pop restaurants out of business. This "taxed and regulated right out of business" stuff is largely a bunch of crap. The bigger problem is the availability of cheap, mass produced fast food and other chain restaurants that have squeezed mom and pop out of business. Hard to blame government for that when the consumers are the ones making the choice.

eh......the large "monopoly" chains certainly do receive better tax breaks from our "corporate culture" government than the mom and pops we used to have. it makes it impossible to choose bev's diner when she has to work at mc donalds after she couldn't compete with 99 cent shit that shouldn't be "regulated" as food.

[jhale667]

Let's also not forget Mom & Pop establishments didn't get tax breaks for outsourcing American jobs, either...

[standin]

That's what you think of when "simpler, better time" comes to mind? Minorities? People want to leave their front doors unlocked, neighbors being neighborly, kids being able to walk to school without worrying about abductions, milkman coming by twice a week, knowing the mailman's first name, when Willie Mays & Mickey Mantle were American heroes, buying a Coke for .10 cents without a .35 cent sin tax, flying the American flag out of pride and respect for your country, if you got fat & got sick from it that was your own damn fault, personal responsibility and not a nanny state where money is robbed from the people who do choose to work to take care of every person who chooses not to.

Now, if in your mind you envision that as all white people living in harmony like that...it's you that have an issue with racism.

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Blacks were also very different, but there was no question about the existence of racism. This was in the days of Jim Crow, and we thought blacks were an inferior race, period. They were okay, if they "kept their place." We thought they could work hard, but wouldn't if they could avoid it. Nobody seemed to notice that everybody they knew of any color was the same way.

Then there were our opinions of foreigners, none of which we had ever met.

Racism and World War II: Personal Memories, 1940s, by Carter Jefferson - MemoryArchive

[FORD]

Good fucking god! Who produced that cartoon, the KKK?

That's the most racist goddamn thing I've ever seen. Even the war propaganda cartoons with the ridiculous Japanese and German stereotypes weren't that blatant.

[standin]

Southern blacks used "peckerwood" as a derogatory term to describe poor and/or rural Southern whites. A dictionary of African-American slang explains that the term "peckerwood" had its origins in the word "woodpecker." Blacks saw blackbirds as a symbol of themselves and the contrasting redheaded woodpecker as a representation of whites. Eventually, the word "woodpecker" was inverted to become "peckerwood" in an attempt to hide the meaning and origin of the term. Later, peckerwood came to be used in the North as well, as a general description for white people.

At some point, peckerwood evolved into a term used to describe white prison inmates. In prison slang, a peckerwood or "wood" was a white inmate who was willing to fight to avoid being raped or robbed. Over time, white inmates appropriated the term peckerwood and made it a source of pride.

Currently, the term peckerwood is used to refer both to white youths with loose ties to white power gangs in and out of prison, as well as to actual skinhead gangs who have incorporated "peckerwood" into their name. The various Peckerwood gangs appear to be concentrated largely in California, where they participate in the methamphetamine trade and have ties to other white supremacist gangs such as the Nazi Low Riders. Peckerwood gang members have been charged with a variety of crimes ranging from dealing drugs to attempted murder. Many gang members sport Peckerwood tattoos to display their affiliations.

A Visual Database of Extremist Symbols, Logos and Tattoos

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[sadaist]

I for one am glad I don't have to smell your nasty-ass cigarette smoke while I'm trying to EAT. Or work, for that matter. THAT's actually progress! :D

I already had a "no smoking within 50 ft of" my place rule! :tongue0011:

Good for you. Glad you could impose your will on others. I wonder if anyone in earshot of your guitar playing are as offended as you were being close to someones smoke. You are polluting their air space with your sound.

I remember when my grandparents would take us to a restaurant, listening to them decide where to go. Let's go to place A...no, that place is too smoky, lets go to place B. If smoke is driving away your customers, you can choose to not allow it. But the government mandating it is bullshit. I can understand in an airplane. But even then, what if on long distance flights they offered a smoking flight & a non-smoking flight? I wonder if they could sell the smoking seats at a higher rate. But that would be capitalism, and we can't have that.

[Guitar Shark]

If smoke is driving away your customers, you can choose to not allow it. But the government mandating it is bullshit.

What about the people who work in the store? Their choice is to either work in a hazardous environment, or quit and try to find a different job. Not the easiest thing some of the time, like... now for example.

[jhale667]

Swings and misses!

Good for you. Glad you could impose your will on others.

Yeah, and I happen to pay for that privilege, thanks. My place, my rules. Don't like it? GTFO.

But you're just being an idiot here...

I wonder if anyone in earshot of your guitar playing are as offended as you were being close to someones smoke. You are polluting their air space with your sound.

Wrong. They're willing volunteers, moron.
Besides that being a dipshit analogy, people that may potentially be "offended" by my playing generally don't show up to the gig in the first place...fuck, you're stupid for even trying to go there with this one. Hater much?

Another factoid: So far studies linking second-hand exposure to my playing to CANCER have being inconclusive.


Nice try, Asshole.

[Seshmeister]

That's what you think of when "simpler, better time" comes to mind? Minorities? People want to leave their front doors unlocked, neighbors being neighborly, kids being able to walk to school without worrying about abductions, milkman coming by twice a week, knowing the mailman's first name, when Willie Mays & Mickey Mantle were American heroes, buying a Coke for .10 cents without a .35 cent sin tax, flying the American flag out of pride and respect for your country, if you got fat & got sick from it that was your own damn fault, personal responsibility and not a nanny state where money is robbed from the people who do choose to work to take care of every person who chooses not to.

Now, if in your mind you envision that as all white people living in harmony like that...it's you that have an issue with racism.

Now the reality of the 50s and 60s.

People able to leave their doors unlocked because they didn't have anything to steal, kids still almost never get abducted it's a false fear, having to spend ages going to various shops most days to get your weekly groceries, having to rely and wait for post instead of instant free email, being much much poorer in real terms and having far far less products to buy, being brought home in coffin covered in a flag from wars that the government forced you to fight in and then lost or at best drew with tens of thousands killed for nothing, lower life expectancy and quality of life, crappy TV, women unable to do much apart from bringing up kids and institutionalized racism where states say who you can marry and where you can sit. Politics knee deep in corruption, political assassinations and organized crime commonplace.

There's more, that's just for starters.

[sadaist]

My place, my rules. Don't like it? GTFO.

And owners of tax paying, employee hiring, service providing establishments should not be afforded that same privilege why exactly?

Don't ever open a bar, restaurant, coffee house, airline, bus, train, arena, stadium, park, arcade, shop, or anything else. Even though it will be "your place", it will be Uncle Sams rules.

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Hater much?

LOL. Me the hater? Try boxer shorts bro, they won't bunch up on you as easily.

[sadaist]

What about the people who work in the store? Their choice is to either work in a hazardous environment, or quit and try to find a different job. Not the easiest thing some of the time, like... now for example.

And there is the key right there..."Their choice". Not Uncle Sam deciding for them.

[Blackflag]

This thread is gross. So, essentially, the talking head made a video pandering the bold statement that racism is bad. What's next? His opinion that babies are cute and nuclear war should be avoided? But then you all eat it up, because you, also, think racism is bad and babies are cute.

And what the fuck does any of this have to these "tea party" people? What I'm reading is that you don't necessarily disagree with what they've espoused, but you don't like them...because they're racists. Because the talking head said so.

Holy shit. Seriously?