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  • Kristy
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 16751

    #16
    Originally posted by sadaist
    I can understand if you are working with large sums of cash the need for something like this. If someone is drowning in debt, foreclosures, liens, property seizures & repossessions...you probably don't want them driving a Brinks truck. But for 99% of jobs I think it's pure bullshit.
    A lot of it was a smokescreen to crack down on the employment of illegals by forcing large corporations to check credit on top on U.S. citizenship identification. Problem with that is many illegals can get credit much more easily than they ever will a green card.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      #17
      Originally posted by chefcraig
      Agree completely. There is a current scam in my area where "renters" will come up with the required amount of money (a first and next, usually) for a home or apartment, then not pay another cent to the landlord. It takes months to evict these deadbeats, who essentially live rent-free until the process is completed. And shutting off the utilities does nothing, as these "people" will squat in the home, making do one way or another and causing so much damage that the landlord will need to completely overhaul the site in order to make it presentable again.

      Oh, and the creeps who caused the problems? They usually flee in the dead of night, only to begin the scam anew in the next township.
      You just described why I got out of the residential real estate business.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #18
        Originally posted by chefcraig
        Agree completely. There is a current scam in my area where "renters" will come up with the required amount of money (a first and next, usually) for a home or apartment, then not pay another cent to the landlord. It takes months to evict these deadbeats, who essentially live rent-free until the process is completed. And shutting off the utilities does nothing, as these "people" will squat in the home, making do one way or another and causing so much damage that the landlord will need to completely overhaul the site in order to make it presentable again.

        Oh, and the creeps who caused the problems? They usually flee in the dead of night, only to begin the scam anew in the next township.
        There's another even scarier one.....

        Scammers will rent a home, and then list it on craigslist.

        They'll show it to desperate families and grant them a lease without a credit check, so of course these families all pounce on it....

        Then moving day arrives only to find 4 or 5 families and their U-Hauls all showing up to the same house to move in.

        In a matter of days the scammers have made off with thousands and the families have NO recourse, and nowhere to live.....



        Republican Recessions / Depressions like the one we're in now always bring out the worst grifters.....
        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          #19
          There's a lady here that works at a grocery store in the winter and when the snow melts she dissapears into the mountains and lives off the land. She like being homeless and she doesn't want anyone to know where she goes. The last of the mountain people I guess.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16751

            #20
            Originally posted by Hardrock69
            I can see drug testing for jobs that have safety issues.
            And that's where it should start and end: air traffic controller, train operator, bus driver, 911 dispatcher...but to use it as an excuse for seeking minimum wage part time at a corporate shithole like Borders is beyond ridiculous.

            What if your "testing" comes up a false-positive? Or you do test positive and they don't hire you does that company you applied to have the right to sell that information to other employers by putting in on a data base? This is why, apart from public safety you never apply for a job that requires drug testing.

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            • kwame k
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Feb 2008
              • 11302

              #21
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              You just described why I got out of the residential real estate business.
              Me too......
              Originally posted by vandeleur
              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #22
                You can do all the checks you want and still rent to a dud. The problem you run into is the person who signs the lease might be decent but they have a bad taste in lovers, husbands, or their family sucks. I rented to a legal secretary who was a great tenant but like a dummy fell in love with a prison pen pal. Her born again church would befriend prisoners and she married her pen pal in prison! He gets out and starts running a meth lab when she's at work. The whole situation went south in a hurry. So you don't know who's going to be in your property when you rent it to even someone who shoots sparks out their ass on the good tenant guage.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Guitar Shark
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7579

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  I can see your point on jobs or insurance, but I can definitely see why someone would want a credit check on a potential renter.
                  Finally a worthwhile, mature post from BBB.

                  It was bound to happen eventually, so I thought I should make a note of it.
                  ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                  Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                  Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                  • LoungeMachine
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 32576

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                    Finally a worthwhile, mature post from BBB.

                    It was bound to happen eventually, so I thought I should make a note of it.
                    I got bored and hacked his account.....



                    sorry.
                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                    • sadaist
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11625

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      I can definitely see why someone would want a credit check on a potential renter.

                      I can too. With these stories of the dregs of society screwing things up. But should everyone be punished for what a few do? To me, this is just like the beach alcohol bans. San Diego beaches are now 100% dry. Why? Because a couple times a few douche bags over did it and got into fights on the boardwalks. So because a few people were idiots, no one can have a beer at the beach anymore.

                      To me, it boils down to enforcing current laws and don't make new ones. Bring the hammer down on the people abusing their rights, but do not take away those rights from others. (Fighting is already illegal)

                      Credit checks on renters is too black & white. And a lot of honest people with some mishaps in their past are having a hard time finding a place to live. The most basic of all needs.

                      What's next? Credit checks before you can order at an expensive restaurant? All because a few assholes skip out on their bill.
                      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                      • sadaist
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11625

                        #26
                        So far, the people in this thread have the same feeling about credit checks for employment. And we range from pretty far ends of the political spectrum, yet all agree here. So my question is this.

                        The politicians who are allowing this to happen, just exactly who are they representing? Who are the constituents that want this and think it's a great idea?
                        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                        • bueno bob
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 22951

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nitro Express
                          You can do all the checks you want and still rent to a dud. The problem you run into is the person who signs the lease might be decent but they have a bad taste in lovers, husbands, or their family sucks. I rented to a legal secretary who was a great tenant but like a dummy fell in love with a prison pen pal. Her born again church would befriend prisoners and she married her pen pal in prison! He gets out and starts running a meth lab when she's at work. The whole situation went south in a hurry. So you don't know who's going to be in your property when you rent it to even someone who shoots sparks out their ass on the good tenant guage.
                          Exactly. All the credit checks and background checks in the world, while initially beneficial, can suddenly mean nothing in a very short amount of time.
                          Twistin' by the pool.

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35755

                            #28
                            Yeah for example you could get married...

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