House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

[FORD]

That is complete and utter bullshit, FORD. It's more like 75% of the people want their insurance to stay the same as it is now.

Quit reading those horses asses on the DU and read some other stuff for once.

Guess you haven't been to DU lately?

The fucking Rahm Emanuel hired "Message Discipline INC" trolls are trying to take over the board, and any condemnation of the Insurance Corporate Fellation Act of 2010® shall not be tolerated!

The 75% comes from numerous polls taken last summer, before all the teabagger bullshit and corporate misinformation distorted the issues.

And these were "traditional" polls too, not online polls that can be easily manipulated by "rallying the chairborne Rangers" or whatever metaphor you want to apply to the online poll skewing tactics invented by FreeRepublic.com and later adopted by Democratic Underground.

[FORD]

Except how to pay for it. Don't give me that buying in crap, either. That won't work. It wouldn't even come close to covering the costs. People couldn't afford it and Barry wants to cut $500 Billion from Medicare to help pay for his boondoggle as it is. Grayson is an idiot, and probably the son of an idiot at that.

Paying for it is easy.......

1) End the useless occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

2) Never start any other wars which are not directly related to an actual proven tangible threat to the United States of America.

3) End all government subsidies of harmful industries like tobacco and GMO corn.

4) Restore the tax levels on the rich to the Eisenhower era numbers.

And of course you would also have the money currently being paid to corporate insurance companies, going into Medicare.

Funding is not a problem, if we just do what is right.

[VanHalener]

I am in and out of DC once a week lately, and the bullshit in the air was smelling pretty bad as I drove through today.

[SilvioDante]

I just heard Obama say that premiums will drop 3000%! If that's true (why would he lie to the American people... right???) then I should get a $3000 a month raise!!!

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I AM NOW OFFICIALLY ON BOARD!!!!

Socialism Fever....CATCH IT!!!!!

[FORD]

How the fuck are mandatory payments to a private insurance corporation even remotely considered "socialism"?

[Blackflag]

In this case, the only difference between socialism and facism is who's taking your fucking money. The fuck difference does it make?

[LoungeMachine]

Since the supreme court has essentially deemed corporations "people", why not just cut out the middleman [congress] and let United HealthCare, Inc. write the laws....

To think we still live in "democracy" [or even a republic for that matter] is laughable.

Corporations and Lobbyists run this country, they just use our elected members of congress as their mouthpiece.

Throw 'em all out, rewrite campaign finance rules and regulate lobbyists back to the stone age...

While we're on a roll, make it law that anyone that serves in congress, or FOR a congressperson may NOT work for a registered lobbyist for 20 years....



The whole system is a clusterfucking joke

[Seshmeister]

Okay, who had MARCH 16 in the RA pool as to when Brie would call for a military coup?

It's about time they put the US Military directly under the control of the Australian billionaires so that freedom can be maintained.

[Unchainme]

Paying for it is easy.......

1) End the useless occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

2) Never start any other wars which are not directly related to an actual proven tangible threat to the United States of America.

3) End all government subsidies of harmful industries like tobacco and GMO corn.

4) Restore the tax levels on the rich to the Eisenhower era numbers..

Agree with this all except for number 4 on things that need to be done in this country (not so much the gov't health care section)

Tax break, across the board 20%. I think that someone like..say..Lounge, should have the right to donate his money where ever he feels fit, rather than watch his money get pissed away on a meaningless war or something of that nature.

Bring back power to the individual and remove it from DC and Big Business.

This bill is horseshit, it's being forced down our throats and no side agrees that it's a good idea. And the way it is being pushed through congress is right on par with the complete crap we as a country have had to put up with..for..Hell, I don't even remember! I'd say W., but we all know that this has been going for longer than that.

Throw 'em all out and ban political parties in some way, let us vote on someone's integrity or where they stand on issues, not because someone has an "R" or a "D" by their name.

[SilvioDante]

Throw 'em all out

Finally something we can all agree on...

[SilvioDante]

How the fuck are mandatory payments to a private insurance corporation even remotely considered "socialism"?

The end game in this whole deal is government run single payer. If the government is in charge of my health care, runs my bank, runs my car company, it is a socialist government.

I do not want the government running my health care choices, forcing me to take health care by threat of imprisonment, paying for abortions OR deciding how long I should receive my care when I get sick.

[jhale667]

paying for abortions

It doesn't.

[Seshmeister]

I do not want the government running my health care choices, forcing me to take health care by threat of imprisonment, paying for abortions OR deciding how long I should receive my care when I get sick.

Who do you want to pay for abortions?

Why would you possibly think that a public system means your care would stop or that you couldn't opt out? I hope you haven't been listening to Australian billionaires and insurance companies?

[LoungeMachine]

The end game in this whole deal is government run single payer. If the government is in charge of my health care, runs my bank, runs my car company, it is a socialist government.

I do not want the government running my health care choices, forcing me to take health care by threat of imprisonment, paying for abortions OR deciding how long I should receive my care when I get sick.

Jesus dude turn off the FAUX news for once....


But hey, HERE's a thought....

How do you like the current system where the HealthCare Corporationsare run by DEATH PANELS that decide IF you get treatment, and can RAISE or CANCEL your premiums/coverage at ANYTIME??

How do you like the current system where the entire scam is based on RETURNING PROFITS BASED ON DENYING CARE??????

Get it yet?

Can you vote out of office your insurance company? No.

Hate to break it you you, Champ.... but the big bad "government" is US



God Help us if this is today's low information voter.

[BigBadBrian]

It doesn't.

Under the current HCR Bill it will.

I find funding abortions for stupid women without any knowledge of birth control as revolting as you having your money going to "illegal wars."