The "crazies" in the Tea Party Movement are...
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Originally posted by vandeleurE- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :DComment
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They're all man-crushing HARD...
Originally posted by conmee
If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.
That is all.
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I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667
Originally posted by Isaac R.
Then it's really true??
The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???
OMFG...who in their right mind...???
Originally posted by eddie78
I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.Comment
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Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!Comment
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Originally posted by conmee
If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.
That is all.
Icon.Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667
Originally posted by Isaac R.
Then it's really true??
The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???
OMFG...who in their right mind...???
Originally posted by eddie78
I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.Comment
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The Dems are getting themselves into hot water when they start marginalizing Joe Sixpack's right to dissent.
dissenters may be very well rational. and many are. they can rationally oppose the health care. they can rationally oppose the stimulus. they can rationally oppose pretty much anything. the tea partiers, by and large, are not rational.
seriously. like i said, their taxes are lower. bush started huge deficits. they get a voice in washington every 2 years. but they ignore ALL of those facts in order to stick with their mantra. that makes them irrational. and honestly, if they want to keep blindly ignoring facts, then their opinions probably should be marginalized.Comment
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but a fair one. i've had enough discussions with more than enough tea party attendees. again, those attending tea party events do NOT represent every person who dissents with the government's actions.
look, here's the deal. dissent is fine. but the tea partiers do not = the dissent. they represent only a small minority, even of the dissenters. (18% of the population.)
dissenters may be very well rational. and many are. they can rationally oppose the health care. they can rationally oppose the stimulus. they can rationally oppose pretty much anything. the tea partiers, by and large, are not rational.
seriously. like i said, their taxes are lower. bush started huge deficits. they get a voice in washington every 2 years. but they ignore ALL of those facts in order to stick with their mantra. that makes them irrational. and honestly, if they want to keep blindly ignoring facts, then their opinions probably should be marginalized.
Bush put the wheels in motion for escalating the deficit. There is no doubt about that and most fiscal conservatives weren't too happy about that. But Obama is hitting the accelerator hard on that runaway train.
Dissenters to Bush were called patriots. Dissenters to Obama are called racists and nazis. That's the State-Run Media (SRM) for you. It's also a typical play out of the Democratic Party playbook: when you can't dispute the conservatives, call them names and insult them.
Face it, you're just not used to, and definitely not comfortable with, this level of dissent. It scares you because the Dems are in serious trouble in November. Republican turnout in November will be much higher than usual for a mid-term election while Democrats will turnout in their usual numbers.
Even if the Republicans don't take control of the House or Senate, they will be much closer to being equal and Obama will never again get any legislation through using that assinine method used to pass Obamacare. Maybe then he'll actually use some of that bipartisanship he so promised.
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Do the Tea Party people represent all dissenters? No, of course not. Are they typical of the average dissenter? An emphatic YES!!!
Bush put the wheels in motion for escalating the deficit. There is no doubt about that and most fiscal conservatives weren't too happy about that. But Obama is hitting the accelerator hard on that runaway train.
Dissenters to Bush were called patriots. Dissenters to Obama are called racists and nazis. That's the State-Run Media (SRM) for you. It's also a typical play out of the Democratic Party playbook: when you can't dispute the conservatives, call them names and insult them.
Face it, you're just not used to, and definitely not comfortable with, this level of dissent. It scares you because the Dems are in serious trouble in November. Republican turnout in November will be much higher than usual for a mid-term election while Democrats will turnout in their usual numbers.
Even if the Republicans don't take control of the House or Senate, they will be much closer to being equal and Obama will never again get any legislation through using that assinine method used to pass Obamacare. Maybe then he'll actually use some of that bipartisanship he so promised.
because that IS what the tea party attendees are doing. they're perfectly able to have the opinion that taxes should be lower and that there should be less government. there is nothing irrational about that opinion.
but if there voice wasn't heard in the past, it's notbody's fault but their. ask yourself, how many of those tea partiers voted for ron paul in the presidential primary? he was probably the closest to their voice. how many of them yelled and screamed at bush in 2004 to quit raising the deficit? and i know, there were many conservatives who were "uncomfortable" with bush's spending. but still, did they organize, or just grouse to themselves and then decide once the country voted for democrats to get together and claim their voice wasn't heard?
again, let me be clear: agreeing with the ideals of less taxes and less government is fine. but the tea party attendees go farther. they DO largely ignore the past. they ignore their own previous apathy, and for the most part they're blaming democrats for the current fiscal situation.
i equate it to this: protesting the iraqi war was not irrational by any means. but the ciny sheehan crowd certainly was. (i'll give her a pass, because you're not expected to be fully rational after burying a son.) still, the rest of them were not. same thing here.Comment
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dude, i'm not afraid of dissent. i mean, let's be honest, was i ranting and raving during the bush administration when the republicans controlled both houses? and more importantly, was i screaming that my voice wasn't being heard because i voted for democrats and republicans were in office?
because that IS what the tea party attendees are doing. they're perfectly able to have the opinion that taxes should be lower and that there should be less government. there is nothing irrational about that opinion.
but if there voice wasn't heard in the past, it's notbody's fault but their. ask yourself, how many of those tea partiers voted for ron paul in the presidential primary? he was probably the closest to their voice. how many of them yelled and screamed at bush in 2004 to quit raising the deficit? and i know, there were many conservatives who were "uncomfortable" with bush's spending. but still, did they organize, or just grouse to themselves and then decide once the country voted for democrats to get together and claim their voice wasn't heard?
again, let me be clear: agreeing with the ideals of less taxes and less government is fine. but the tea party attendees go farther. they DO largely ignore the past. they ignore their own previous apathy, and for the most part they're blaming democrats for the current fiscal situation.
i equate it to this: protesting the iraqi war was not irrational by any means. but the ciny sheehan crowd certainly was. (i'll give her a pass, because you're not expected to be fully rational after burying a son.) still, the rest of them were not. same thing here.Comment
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Now you can argue whether his response to the situation has been correct or not. I'm certainly no fan of Larry $ummers or Timmy the Keebler Elf myself, and I would have much preferred an FDR style approach to the fucked up economy than more Clintonian DLC triangulation Repuke lite bullshit.
Fact is that shitty economic policy didn't take a break from 1993 - 2001, it was just managed better. Clinton was a better Republican than the BCE themselves. Obama, sadly, seems determined to follow that same road, or at least that's what he's done so far.
But you didn't see the teabaggers protesting Chimp. Or Poppy. Or Reagan. And when they protested Clinton, it was because he got his dick sucked, not because he allowed the repeal of Glass Steagal, or deregulated industry to the point where Rupert Murdoch, Clear Channel, and Time Warner were able to take over the media.
So what's different this time? The melanin content in the skin of the current White House occupant. And that's what is driving these lunatics.Eat Us And Smile
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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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I think the basic argument is that they're retarded, biased, and politically incompetent assholes that are incapable of affecting real change because they're so easily swindled by pretenders and rhetoric....Comment
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to be honest, nothing that’s going on now hasn’t been going on before. deficit spending. government control (TARP was a bush program). so if you’re protesting now about how nobody ever listens to you, then you’re an idiot. if you’re saying, “we’ve reached the breaking point, and it’s time for a change,” then fair enough.Comment
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