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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    White And Conservative? Must Be A Racist

    David Stokes

    Writing about race and racism in America is always risky and potentially polarizing if you are—like me—a middle-aged white guy from the suburbs. So I am a little hesitant to weigh in with some observations about the current climate in America.

    As a minister who leads a congregation composed of people from more than 30 nations (not descendants—first generation here), I have the opportunity to interact with wonderful people from around the world. I have learned much from them over the years about the challenges and hardships they have faced, both back in the old country, and trying to assimilate here and carve out their own niche of the American dream.

    Being on the conservative side of all things political—with an emergent streak of libertarianism—I realize that this adds another strike against me when it comes to sharing (or in the view of some—even having) a reasonable and valid opinion on the subject of racism. Because I am a white man and a conservative, therefore I must be a racist.

    Strike three is the fact that I did not vote for Barack Obama (though a significant number of my congregants surely did) and my opposition to his presidential policies has been unwavering. That seals the deal. Back to the dugout for me it is—I have no credibility. How dare I talk about this issue?

    Yet, I am distressed by what I am seeing and hearing—distressed enough to speak up. As the Apostle Paul’s spirit was stirred in him while visiting Athens (Acts chapter 17) because of what he saw and heard (in that case, pervasive idolatry), my spirit is troubled because of what I see in America these days.

    The problem in America is not racism. Sure, there are cases of enmity driven by bigoted ignorance, but the greatest prejudice in this country is the now systemic painting of those who oppose policy as racists—ipso facto. We have a new McCarthyism in the nation—one that paints with a broad brush. “Are you now, or have you ever been, a card-carrying racist?”

    We are witnessing the “borking” of America. Robert Bork, of course, was Ronald Reagan’s nominee to the Supreme Court in 1987. He found himself the victim of an insidious smear campaign—that worked—and his name became a verb: "To defame or vilify (a person) systematically, esp. in the mass media.”

    If you’re a white person and you don’t support Obamacare—you must be a bigot. If you think global warming is an overheated issue—it’s surely racially motivated. The same goes with what is happening now in Arizona. It must be racism driving all the “hate.” The 7 out of 10 citizens of Arizona who support the recently signed immigration law must be motivated by “hate.” That whole property, safety and not wanting to overtax an already cash-strapped state with financial burdens—well, that’s just a cover.

    To hear some describe it (newspapers, blogs or any hour on MSNBC), racism is all over the place and there is no defense allowed if you are accused. It’s a charge that sticks. It’s also a charge that, to an extent, works. This is why playing the race card tends these days to be the first from the deck. It has a way of stopping further discussion. It’s a tried and true intimidator.

    Martin Luther King Jr. famously said something about people not being judged by the “color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” Amen! That statement rings so true. But what kind of character is represented when former ACORN president, Bertha Lewis, slanders the Tea Party movement as a “bowel movement” riddled with and motivated by “racism.” She was speaking, by the way to a group called the Young Democratic Socialists (the youth arm of the Democratic Socialists of America). Or for that matter, what kind of character was represented by the now discredited ACORN and their financial and moral bankruptcy?

    It is disturbing to me that the historic election of the first black President of the United States has not led to a “post-racial” national experience, but rather it’s polarizing opposite. Are we moving toward a kind of country where speaking out and reasonable—even animated—opposition to policies and those who make them can be dismissed as merely racist and therefore irrelevant?

    I do not support President Obama’s policies, but I am not a racist. I pray for the man (and other leaders) every day, by name, following the scriptural directive. I make sure to commend him when I can—for example, I thought his remarks at the memorial service for the West Virginia miners a week ago were excellent. He fulfilled one of his presidential duties—an extraordinarily difficult one (as any clergyman knows)—with grace and obvious compassion.

    Mr. Obama loves his wife and children—they are truly a beautiful family. So, when I disagree with what he stands for politically I am not “hating” a man, or his “race,” I am simply exercising my rights as a citizen. But it is now clear that we have entered into a part of our national narrative, one that at first promised to be “post-racial,” that is becoming “most-racial.” The president has recently made a video for the Democratic National Committee appealing directly to (his words) "young people, African-Americans, Latinos and women,” in an effort to mobilize people to vote for his party in 2010.

    How is that “post-racial?”

    I implore all those on the other side of the political spectrum from today’s conservatives to resist the temptation to throw the racist flag when all that is happening is that some are voicing their disagreements to policies, the very way many of you did when George W. Bush was in office. It’s quintessentially American to disagree and speak out.

    I recently heard a clergyman—someone I know and respect but strongly disagree with in this case—suggest that what Christians need to do these days is to “obey the powers that be.” This is, of course, Paul’s admonition from Romans 13 and it means that we are to be law-abiding citizens. However, the minister was using the text as a “proof text”—suggesting that speaking out or criticizing our current national leaders and their policies is a violation of scripture. Interestingly, I am not sure that text and argument were rolled out 5 years ago, but I digress.

    What that clergyman—and some Americans—miss is that the “powers that be” in this nation are not merely governmental (though they are, in part), but reside ultimately in “We The People.” And we have a right to criticize and oppose and should be able to do so without heavy-handed “theologies” and broad-brush smears of racism.
    Writing about race and racism in America is always risky and potentially polarizing if you are—like me—a middle-aged white guy from the suburbs. So I am a little hesitant to weigh in with some observations about the current climate in America.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2
    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    If you’re a white person and you don’t support Obamacare—you must be a bigot. If you think global warming is an overheated issue—it’s surely racially motivated. The same goes with what is happening now in Arizona. It must be racism driving all the “hate.” The 7 out of 10 citizens of Arizona who support the recently signed immigration law must be motivated by “hate.” That whole property, safety and not wanting to overtax an already cash-strapped state with financial burdens—well, that’s just a cover.
    It's usually the only argument Democrats can think of. Pitiful, really. I guess this Tea Party guy is a racist also.

    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      #3
      Tea bagger's aren't racist.........just horrible spellers
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #4
        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
        It's usually the only argument Democrats can think of.

        I welcome it. In the last two years the term has lost a lot of its sting. The more they just randomly throw it out there where it doesn't belong, the more value it loses. If they keep it up, it will be like the word "bitch" on network television. When it was first used on a Designing Women episode, I remember the uproar about cursing & obscenities on television. TV Guide among many other publications had big stories about it. But it's been overused so much that most people probably don't even notice it in their favorite shows anymore. That's what is happening to the term "racist".

        Anyone remember the South Park episode about the word "shit"?

        The moral of the story is not that saying "shit" is wrong, per se, but saying it in excess leads to boredom with the word.



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        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • sadaist
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jul 2004
          • 11625

          #5
          Originally posted by kwame k
          Tea bagger's aren't racist..........just horrible spellers
          Hmmm. Anyone want to wager how long he stands behind this statement? I'll take two days for $1.

          PS - That apostrophe doesn't belong there Kwame (bagger's), and you forgot a period at the end of the sentence.
          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            #6
            Can't take a joke, Sadie?

            Lighten up!
            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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            • sadaist
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jul 2004
              • 11625

              #7
              Originally posted by kwame k
              Lighten up!

              Am I too dark for you? Racist.
              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                Originally posted by chan_bkny

                This is an interesting piece, actually. I've read it twice and had a different reaction after each reading. It'd be even more interesting if it were published on a non-right-wing site. Or perhaps Mr. Stokes was too "intimidated" by feedback from a non-white-male-conservative readership?

                [/COLOR]
                What site would you have preferred ??

                BTW, I doubt Minister Stokes is very easily intimidated...


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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kwame k
                  Tea bagger's aren't racist.........just horrible spellers
                  You criticized a black man...you're a racist!!!
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chan_bkny
                    This is an interesting piece, actually. I've read it twice and had a different reaction after each reading. It'd be even more interesting if it were published on a non-right-wing site. Or perhaps Mr. Stokes was too "intimidated" by feedback from a non-white-male-conservative readership?
                    I seriously doubt any "non-right-wing sites" would have the balls to post such a truthful op-ed like this one.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chan_bkny
                      Hold up. An Op-Ed is an opinion piece. "A truthful op-ed?" Are you saying opinion = fact?
                      yes, they can be, as this one is.

                      And why would one need balls to publish something that's "truthful?"
                      There's alot of truth that isn't published in the State-Run Media (MSNBC, CNN, NYT, etc.).
                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • jhale667
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 20929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        truthful op-ed

                        Originally posted by conmee
                        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                        That is all.

                        Icon.
                        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                        Originally posted by Isaac R.
                        Then it's really true??

                        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                        Originally posted by eddie78
                        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                        • chefcraig
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 12172

                          #13
                          When you think about it, every group out there, be they political, religious, following a sports team or (God forbid) chasing after a rock band has members that tend to take their devotion to the extreme. If you speak critically of, question the motives of or feel some dissent toward the particular subject, you are a heretic. There are some that believe a person questioning the actions of Israel must be antisemitic, as with those that do not quite grasp the apparent contradictions of radical Muslims simply must be God-less. If you find fault with South American governments, you are an imperialist, and of course in this country there is always the idea that someone is a racist if they happen to be white and discussing other non-white members of the populace.

                          It's just so damned childish at this point. People today seem to be walking around with a giant chip on their shoulder, just waiting to be offended by just about anything. Their is a weird sense of not only entitlement at work here, but also an astoundingly perverse attitude of political correctness that goes with it, as if society itself will collapse if anyone from outside a group should offer an opinion about said group. Crap, where and when did folks begin to get so damned thin-skinned and objectionable? If the generations that came before were as prickly and sensitive to every little thing, the industrial revolution never would have occurred, and chances are we'd all still be shitting outdoors. The concept of forward movement never would have been conceived, but then again, we wouldn't have as much to regress from, which appears to be the case of society currently.

                          Every time some professionally indignant nitwit opens his mouth and points a finger of blame at another individual, it's sets all of us as a society back another 5 years. At the current rate of this occurring, we won't have to worry about the end of the world in 2012, because by calendar date we are never going to get there.
                          Last edited by chefcraig; 05-03-2010, 12:09 PM.









                          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                          ― Stephen Hawking

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                          • hambon4lif
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2810

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chefcraig
                            When you think about it, every group out there, be they political, religious, following a sports team or (God forbid) chasing after a rock band has members that tend to take their devotion to the extreme.
                            Every time some professionally indignant nitwit opens his mouth and points a finger of blame at another individual, it's sets all of us as a society back another 5 years. At the current rate of this occurring, we won't have to worry about the end of the world in 2012, because by calendar date we are never going to get there.
                            ....God willing!

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                            • WACF
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2920

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chan_bkny
                              This playing the race card, a "tried and true intimidator," as Mr. Stokes calls it goes both ways. Whenever a minority protests a racist act a white person has perpetrated, s/he is called names or is told there was no racial motive behind the act. Ever read a book entitled Between Barack And A Hard Place: Racism And White Denial In The Age of Obama?
                              The racism card has been so overplayed it is starting to not mean anything.

                              As a white 40 something Conservative (Canadian version) male I am tired of always....and I do mean always hearing the racism angle.

                              When a minority commits a crime against someone else it is never called racism here....but when ever a white commits a crime and the victim was a minority...holy hell all you hear is it was racism. When the police or courts try and deal with criminals...and they actually get a sentence...and the criminal is not white...once again the media runs with the family crying racism against their people.

                              Never just some jackass commiting a crime.

                              Why...can we not just be equal and happy about it.

                              The law states we are....how about we start acting like it and media should stop playing it for the drama.
                              Last edited by WACF; 05-03-2010, 04:12 PM.

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