Spill Baby Spill - Who should really pay for this Disaster???

[PETE'S BROTHER]

London's outspoken Conservative mayor, Boris Johnson, joined the chorus of criticism, saying, "I would like to see ... cool heads, a bit of calm reflection about how to deal with this problem rather than endlessly buck-passing and name-calling. When you consider the huge exposure of British pension funds to BP and to BP's share price, it starts to become a matter of national concern if a great British company is being continually beaten up on the international airwaves." And there are reports that John Napier, chairman of one of the country's leading insurance companies, RSA, has written an open letter to Obama accusing him of lack of statesmanship.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599199605600;_ylt=Ah_IyuJZOVpI1Z5ZMoHx2Aus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNrNTg5ZTI5BGFzc2V0A3RpbWUvMjAxMDA2MTEvMDg1OTkxOTk2MDU2MDAEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwMxBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDYW5hbHlzaXN1a2Jy

pension funds, national concern, great british company gettin' beat up on tv? FUCK THE FUCKIN' LOT OF YOU!!! our coastline is being damaged beyond repair. our fishing industry in the gulf is shut down, and it's gonna follow up the east coast!! some brits may have less to retire on, americans are not even gonna have a chance to retire, their way of life is gone!


sorry, i watched another nat geo special yesterday on this. absolutely disgusting.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Perhaps the most strident remarks came from former Conservative trade minister Lord Norman Tebbit, who wrote on his blog: "The whole might of American wealth and technology is displayed as utterly unable to deal with the disastrous spill - so what more natural than a crude, bigoted, xenophobic display of partisan political Presidential petulance against a multinational company?"

FUCK OFF!!! (altho he did use 4 "p" words in a row) reverse this scenario, those limey fucks would wanna own texaco if it were us.

[chefcraig]

This article appeared in my local paper this morning. It's little things like this that give me some shaky confidence in how this whole issue is to be resolved. Nothing like having a dead guy on your payroll as an adviser.

FAU professor who died in 2005 named in BP's disaster plan for 2009

AP finds other glaring errors in oil company's plan

By Mike Clary, Sun Sentinel

11:14 PM EDT, June 10, 2010


As one of the only scientists in the world who had ever studied the effects of oil on sea turtles, South Florida biologist Peter Lutz seemed a perfect candidate to advise BP in the aftermath of a disaster such as the Gulf spill.

Indeed, the giant petroleum company listed Lutz as a consultant in its 2009 disaster response plan.

The former professor of marine biology at Florida Atlantic University died in February 2005.

"I think he would have been fairly horrified and annoyed to be in the BP plan when he probably was never consulted," said FAU marine biologist Sarah Milton, a former colleague. "And then he would have been amused."

The listing of Lutz in the 2009 response plan was just one of several mistakes uncovered by The Associated Press in BP's 582-page regional spill plan for the Gulf. The AP said Wednesday that the plan for dealing with emergencies on the Deepwater Horizon rig was "riddled with omissions and glaring errors."

In its analysis of the plan, AP found that under the heading "sensitive biological resources," the company listed several marine mammals, including walruses, sea otters, sea lions and seals, that do not live anywhere near the Gulf.

The names and phone numbers of several Texas A&M University marine life specialists are wrong. So are the numbers for marine mammal stranding network offices in Louisiana and Florida that are no longer in service.

In Houston, BP spokesman John Pack said the inclusion of Lutz's name in the 2009 response plan "was clearly an error, something we should have picked up."

When he died of pancreatic cancer at age 65, Lutz was well-known for his research on sea turtles and his role in several scientific societies. He joined FAU in 1991 after several years at the University of Miami, where he conducted one of the only experiments involving sea turtles and oil contamination.

According to Milton, Lutz and his UM colleagues added oil to a tank containing several sea turtles to study its effects. Those effects were "fairly dramatic" and detrimental, she said, but the study was ended before any of the turtles died.

A native of Glasgow, Scotland, Lutz also studied the effects on turtles of beach renourishment and latex balloon ingestion. He also invented a pop-up satellite tag used to track turtle movements.

"One of the complaints [Lutz] made often is that we don't have enough studies on physiology" of marine life affected by oil spills, Milton said.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-oil-spill-florida-professor-20100610,0,884195.story

[Seshmeister]

London's outspoken Conservative mayor, Boris Johnson, joined the chorus of criticism, saying, "I would like to see ... cool heads, a bit of calm reflection about how to deal with this problem rather than endlessly buck-passing and name-calling. When you consider the huge exposure of British pension funds to BP and to BP's share price, it starts to become a matter of national concern if a great British company is being continually beaten up on the international airwaves." And there are reports that John Napier, chairman of one of the country's leading insurance companies, RSA, has written an open letter to Obama accusing him of lack of statesmanship.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599199605600;_ylt=Ah_IyuJZOVpI1Z5ZMoHx2Aus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNrNTg5ZTI5BGFzc2V0A3RpbWUvMjAxMDA2MTEvMDg1OTkxOTk2MDU2MDAEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwMxBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDYW5hbHlzaXN1a2Jy

pension funds, national concern, great british company gettin' beat up on tv? FUCK THE FUCKIN' LOT OF YOU!!! our coastline is being damaged beyond repair. our fishing industry in the gulf is shut down, and it's gonna follow up the east coast!! some brits may have less to retire on, americans are not even gonna have a chance to retire, their way of life is gone!


sorry, i watched another nat geo special yesterday on this. absolutely disgusting.

These bozo's comments were in another thread where Binnie and I said how irrelevant they are.

In any case BP are more American than they are British which most people seem to be ignoring. Half the board and twice as many employees are from the US.

[Nickdfresh]

BP is really BP-Amoco and BP-Castrol. They bought out Amoco years ago and inherited a large U.S. based operation and refinery network. They also now own (formerly "Burma Castrol") Castrol lubricants, one of the bigger motor oil players in the U.S. market as well as in Europe and Asia. In fact I'm changing oil using quarts of their stuff bought years ago tomorrow using so called "German" Castrol SYNTEC 0W-30...

[Igosplut]

Guys I know that Tuna fish say that the fish (coming up from the Gulf as they do this time of year) are few. Also the large (700LB up) are mostly missing.They figure there's a connection....

[Seshmeister]

Do you speak to fish often?

What did they think of Finding Nemo, too far fetched?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Do you speak to fish often?

What did they think of Finding Nemo, too far fetched?

well yeah, who ever heard of talking sea turtles?

[Igosplut]

Do you speak to fish often?

What did they think of Finding Nemo, too far fetched?

You can speak to them all you want....when they talk back, THEN you have problems.....

I'm actually gonna go with one of the guys sticking for tuna. I've never done it that way before, we always lay-to and fished them with Tuna poles. THAT's the most boring shit I'll tell ya, you have two live bluefish hooked through their back swimming at a set depth (with a float, usually a soda bottle) and wait. You have to be quiet, no radio, nothing, even talking for the most part. If a fish hits, then you drop anchor, let the fish take some line, and then let him pull the boat around to tire him out. Most of the time though, you just sit around....

Sticking's a whole different ballgame. Usually you have a plane spot them for you, and you chase the school, trying to pick one out. The boats have flying bridges (pilot stations on top to see the school) and pulpits off the bow for the harpoon man. If you can manage to harpoon one (the barb comes off the end of the harpoon, and has line attached) then most have a zapper button that kills the fish before they can bruise themselves (buyers will turn it down for that). I've always wanted to try my hand at sticking, but it's not something most are offered because you're out there to catch, not miss ( from being inexperienced). But these guys figure I can stick, so maybe in a week or so I'll have some pictures.....

[Jagermeister]

You can speak to them all you want....when they talk back, THEN you have problems.....

I'm actually gonna go with one of the guys sticking for tuna. I've never done it that way before, we always lay-to and fished them with Tuna poles. THAT's the most boring shit I'll tell ya, you have two live bluefish hooked through their back swimming at a set depth (with a float, usually a soda bottle) and wait. You have to be quiet, no radio, nothing, even talking for the most part. If a fish hits, then you drop anchor, let the fish take some line, and then let him pull the boat around to tire him out. Most of the time though, you just sit around....

Sticking's a whole different ballgame. Usually you have a plane spot them for you, and you chase the school, trying to pick one out. The boats have flying bridges (pilot stations on top to see the school) and pulpits off the bow for the harpoon man. If you can manage to harpoon one (the barb comes off the end of the harpoon, and has line attached) then most have a zapper button that kills the fish before they can bruise themselves (buyers will turn it down for that). I've always wanted to try my hand at sticking, but it's not something most are offered because you're out there to catch, not miss ( from being inexperienced). But these guys figure I can stick, so maybe in a week or so I'll have some pictures.....

Cool..

[PETE'S BROTHER]

shit...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100615/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_fire

[BigBadBrian]

These bozo's comments were in another thread where Binnie and I said how irrelevant they are.

In any case BP are more American than they are British which most people seem to be ignoring. Half the board and twice as many employees are from the US.

So why are the Brits across the pond getting their panties in a wad when we talk smack about BP?

[ELVIS]

Because one in seven British pensions are at stake..

[Va Beach VH Fan]

As usual, Jon Stewart reminds us that these "alternate methods of energy" suggestions aren't exactly a new concept....

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[Seshmeister]

Because one in seven British pensions are at stake..

But only a little.

BP shares only make up 1.5% of British pensions, but most pension funds seem to have some.