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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    White House Panicking Over Elections



    (CBS) With many polls indicating the Republicans may win back control of the House of Representatives (and possibly the Senate as well) in the upcoming mid-term elections, Jim VandeHei, the executive editor of Politico, told CBS' "Face the Nation" that the Obama administration is in a horrible position.

    "Does the White House understand this?" asked guest host Harry Smith. "Do you feel any sense of panic or concern" on the part of the administration?

    "They get it. There's panic. There's concern," VandeHei said. "The reality for this administration stinks, politically and practically, when it comes to the economy. You're not going to be able to change that 9.6-percent unemployment figure. You can't get anything from Congress in the next couple of months."

    CBS Congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes said the Democrats are distancing themselves from President Obama.

    "Not only are they running away from President Obama, they're running away from being Democrats in some cases. In some races you actually see the Democratic candidates not really mentioning that they're a Democrat in their campaign ads," Cordes said.

    Smith asked his guests to try to identify the source of the discontent: "From your experience on the Hill, have you heard any Democrats in private conversations say, 'You know what? We went down the wrong road. We went after health care. We went after so many other things on the Obama agenda as opposed to, in the end of the day, it's all about creating jobs?'"

    "Not only have we heard that, but we've been hearing it for months," said Cordes. "We heard it during the health care debate that dragged on for a year when the economy was so bad; they focused on health care and they focused on financial regulation.

    "Americans don't feel the impact of those pieces of legislation yet," she said. "There's a lot of frustration on Capitol Hill among Democrats who feel like the President led them down this path. They didn't all necessarily want to deal with health care. This was on the president's agenda, and then they felt like he kind of hung them out to dry."

    "Not a single Democrat has run an ad in support of the health care bill since April," VandeHei noted.

    Cordes pointed out that Democrats are very unhappy about Mr. Obama's speech last week, only the second Oval Office prime time address in his presidency.

    "What does he talk about? Not the economy, but Iraq," Cordes said. "And they say, 'No, we need to own the economy. If you’re going to use the power of your office to give a speech like that, talk about the economy."

    VandeHei said the Republicans feel more powerful today than they've felt at any point in the last five or six years.

    "On top of that, you have this enthusiasm gap that is killing Democrats. If you look at the polling data from Gallup and from others, it shows that Republicans are fired up about this election. The liberal Democrats are not. They're not enthusiastic about it. When you have races that are decided by a couple hundred votes, in a House that can be very, very close, that matters," VandeHei said.

    He also suggested that Democrats are much more pessimistic than they were merely three or four weeks ago. He cited a recent Gallup poll that showed Republicans with a 10-point generic edge. "They've been polling for 60 years. We've not seen a number like that."

    Cordes pointed out that predictions show the Republicans can win 45 to 50 seats in the House, and they only need 39 seats to take control.

    But VandeHei offered a glimmer of hope for President Obama and the Democrats.

    "It's never too late," he said. "Think about how fickle we are in everything in life now, whether it's the cell phone that we choose or what we think about politics or what we do in our daily life. People are fickle.

    "I still think you can start to pull people back," VandeHei said. "At the end of the day, it has to be that Obama has to find that magic. How can he get liberals to be as excited about him and about Democratic change as they were two years ago?

    Given suggestions that right-wing activists are more fired-up to support their candidates, VandeHei added, "I don't understand how liberals can sit at home and feel like Obama has not done enough for them. This has been a breathtakingly activist government for the last two years.

    "Some day they're going to sit back and go, 'Wow, look at all they did!'"


  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      #3
      The Democrats have totally dropped the ball! Pelosi and Reid are useless and have the spine of a jellyfish.

      The Democrats have bent to even the slightest pressure of the Repukes and even over the mildest objections from the Repukes they back off and concede to them.......leaving us with shit legislation.

      As far as I'm concerned.........you were hired to do a job and have failed miserably!
      Fuck the Left and fuck the Right........the time for petty politics is over! This country is bleeding and unless you have the balls to be part of the solution, you are part of the problem. NEXT!


      I think you're going to continue to see voters changing from Demos to Repukes and back again until the massive problems in this country are fixed. The vast majority of people are not Left or Right but in the center and looking for people who have the answers and not loyal to any Brand!
      Last edited by kwame k; 09-06-2010, 10:33 AM.
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        It's time for real Americans to abandon the left-right game...

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        • chefcraig
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Apr 2004
          • 12172

          #5
          Here we sit almost two years into the Obama administration's reign, and the Democrats have finally figured out that citizens do not actively care all that much about restructured health care when they are by and large unemployed. Throwing a bunch of ill conceived, pork-filled and ultimately useless concepts into a 55 gallon drum, calling it a stimulus package and then patting themselves on the back for the "accomplishment" is equally absurd as the Bush regime declaring "Mission Accomplished" on the deck of an aircraft carrier in 2003. To compound this utterly inept way of thinking, the Democratic lead congress applies this same nebulous logic to repairing the economy, with equally insipid results. So is it any surprise when these irresponsible simpletons attempt to remove the "Democrat" designation from their campaign posters and ads, in order to distance themselves from a President they were all so happy to embrace 18 months ago? Apparently, the "CHANGE" platform really meant "poorly thought out ideas wrapped in predictable expediency".

          Look, I've been a registered democrat since the late 1970s. This does not mean that I have voted a straight ticket over that time, as common sense will tell you that blindly following the ideals of one party will get you into trouble. The problem is that most people tend to swing to the left or right as a knee-jerk reaction to ineptitude. The whole "VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT!" concept really means "Well crap, that didn't work, let's try this", an attitude that only breeds failure and ultimately, outright contempt, not only for those voting, but amongst those that choose to run for office. If you are fair weathered in your voting principles, you are going to get fair weathered politicians. George Bernard Shaw supposedly once said "Democracy is a device that insures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." Whomever the hell said it, I'd like to buy the bastard a drink, because the quote more than aptly applies in this situation.
          Last edited by chefcraig; 09-06-2010, 11:19 AM.









          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
          ― Stephen Hawking

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          • vanhalen1r2
            Head Fluffer
            • May 2006
            • 303

            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            It's time for real Americans to abandon the left-right game...




            QFT
            “A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.”

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Obama is finding out that verbalizing ideas does not a President make...

              You can't just speak things and expect God knows who to make them materialize...

              So, now we're hearing that infrastructure is gonna put americans to work...

              Didn't we already hear this "shovel ready projects" BS two years ago ??


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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302

                #8
                Yeah, I've never blindly voted a straight party ticket, either............I try to vote for the best candidate based on the information at hand.

                How anyone thought that Obama was going to fix everything the day he was elected, either has zero concept of how this country works or was/is so desperate for any ray of hope that they'll throw common sense to the wind in hopes of a 4th quarter Hail Mary pass! Our system just doesn't work that way and correcting decades of abuse can't be done overnight. The real problem, IMHO, is that no politician is going to "sack up" and tell the American people that we need to sacrifice, tighten our belts, and heaven forbid.......pay for the trillions of dollars we squandered in two failed occupations and the rampant corporate greed we allowed to go on for decades.

                I hear all this nonsense about taking this country back and going back to the Old School ways.........That's all fine and dandy but that requires effort and sacrifice, two things the American people have overwhelmingly shown they have no real interest in.

                Unless you take away their couches and remote controls, I doubt you'll ever get more than the half-hearted, "We need a revolution in this country, what time does American Idol start?".
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kwame k
                  Unless you take away their couches and remote controls, I doubt you'll ever get more than the half-hearted, "We need a revolution in this country, what time does American Idol start?".
                  Speak for yourself...

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11967

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    Obama is finding out that verbalizing ideas does not a President make...

                    You can't just speak things and expect God knows who to make them materialize...

                    So, now we're hearing that infrastructure is gonna put americans to work...

                    Didn't we already hear this "shovel ready projects" BS two years ago ??



                    We did hear about "shovel ready projects" from Obama during the 2008 campaign...

                    As someone who voted for him, I must say he's turning out to have been a better candidate for office than a holder of said office.
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • GAR
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10881

                      #11
                      The corrected unemployment rate, weighted realistically with part-time/timed-out unemployment benefits/temporary employment is 16.7 % percent.

                      Of course, let's make it look better and not talk about that.

                      However, deduct federal and military employees as Reagan added back in 1987, and the figure floats another 1.5 % percent = true total is 18.2 % percent unemployed in this country.

                      OBAMA is toast!

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                      • GAR
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10881

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Terry
                        We did hear about "shovel ready projects" from Obama during the 2008 campaign...
                        Did anyone here think as I did when they talked about this, that you thought it would be like a Federal work program not unlike Roosevelt's WPA program back in the 1930's?

                        (national debt amt. is $1.2 billion daily..) http://www.federalbudget.com/

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58819

                          #13
                          The American people elected this guy because he sounded like the new FDR.

                          Instead we got a repackaged Bill Clinton, taking all the bad advice from the same people the original Clinton did.

                          Ironically the one Clinton guy he should be listening to (Robert Reich) is the one he's not.

                          Real Health Care Reform would have guaranteed a Democratic landslide. As would actual financial reform which restored the FDR reforms that protected this country for half a century. Instead we got mandatory corporate insurance and the Chris Dodd Federal Reserve Enabling Act.

                          What we are seeing here is the DLC dropping all pretense and openly destroying the Democratic party. And if you take a good look at Democratic Underground these days, it's more than obvious. And they'll ban you instantly over there if you talk about it.

                          There's only one way to stop this bullshit, and we all know what it is.......
                          DEAN 2012. YEEEEAAARRRGGGHHH!
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            The American people elected this guy because he sounded like the new FDR.

                            Instead we got a repackaged Bill Clinton, taking all the bad advice from the same people the original Clinton did.
                            It all seems so boneheaded at this point, does it not? I remember all of those people blathering about change on the mall at Washington eighteen months ago, and shaking my head about it all. These people were another variation of the prideful chanters running about when Clinton took office, and we all know how spectacularly that worked out in the end. After all these years, the only people to believe in any sort of "new hope" springing forth in United States government would unquestionably be either hopelessly naive, unfathomably dense, astoundingly misinformed or a combination of all three.









                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10881

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FORD
                              And if you take a good look at Democratic Underground these days, it's more than obvious. And they'll ban you instantly over there if you talk about it.
                              One would hope your party could look to groom conservative junior leadership for the 2012 elections, to have something attractive for the OTHER side to vote for.

                              This "I am an island" party of Yes to Everything didn't work out as it had campaigned for: which was working with the Repubs, etc. and pushing partisanship aside.

                              Instead, they keep pushing common sense aside. Even today you can't enjoy your FUCKING holiday without Obama getting in your fucking face - he wants to spend another 50 billion?

                              Fuck that.

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