Judge: Military's Ban on Gays Is Unconstitutional

[Nitro Express]

If we killed the gays off we wouldn't have decent fashion designers, waiters, or hair stylists. A quarter of the Republican party would be killed off along with many ministers.

[kwame k]

[hambon4lif]

"Hi, it's oh-twenty one hoursth.. time to hit the sthack, asth your Commanding Offisther I order you to sthtrip for sthumb shut-eye.."

Lady Gar Gar even types with a lisp.....

....who would've guessed?

[sadaist]

Lady Gar Gar

HAHAHAHA!

Did you coin that or has it been around the forums? I have not seen that yet.

Sorry Gar, but that's funny to me

[jhale667]

[FORD]

Judge orders lesbian reinstated to Air Force
By GENE JOHNSON Associated Press Writer
Posted: 09/24/2010 12:30:34 AM PDT

TACOMA, Wash.—A federal judge ruled Friday that a decorated flight nurse discharged from the Air Force for being gay should be given her job back as soon as possible in the latest legal setback to the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Ronald Leighton came in a closely watched case as a tense debate has been playing out over the policy. Senate Republicans blocked an effort to lift the ban this week, but Leighton is now the second federal judge this month to deem the policy unconstitutional.

Maj. Margaret Witt was suspended in 2004 and subsequently discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy after the Air Force learned she had been in a long-term relationship with a civilian woman. She sued to get her job back.

Leighton hailed her as a "central figure in a long-term, highly charged civil rights movement." Tears streaked down Witt's cheeks and she hugged her parents, her partner and supporters following the ruling.

"Today you have won a victory in that struggle, the depth and duration of which will be determined by other judicial officers and hopefully soon the political branches of government," the judge told her, choking up as he recalled Witt's dramatic testimony about her struggles.

The ruling was the second legal victory this month for opponents of "don't ask, don't tell," and it throws the law into further disarray.

Barring an appeal, Witt will now be able to serve despite being openly gay, and a federal judge in California earlier this month ruled the law unconstitutional and is considering whether to immediately halt the ban. While such an injunction would prevent openly gay service members from being discharged going forward, it wouldn't do anything for those who have already been dismissed.

Witt's attorneys, led by the American Civil Liberties Union of Washington, say her case now provides a template for gays who have been previously discharged to seek reinstatement.

Gay rights advocates say that if the government must justify each firing under "don't ask," it will mean a slow death for the policy—even if an outright repeal isn't endorsed by Congress or the courts.

The 1993 law prohibits the military from asking about the sexual orientation of service members, but allows the discharge of those who acknowledge being gay or are discovered engaging in homosexual activity.

The Justice Department did not immediately comment on the ruling, but James Lobsenz, Witt's attorney, said he expected an appeal.

In 2006, Leighton rejected Witt's claims that the Air Force violated her rights, following precedent that the military's policy on gays is constitutional. An appeals court panel overruled him two years later, holding that in light of a Supreme Court ruling striking down a Texas ban on sodomy, "don't ask, don't tell" intrudes on the rights of gay service members. For the government to discharge gays it must prove that their firings further military goals, the panel said.

Leighton determined after a six-day trial that Witt's discharge advanced no legitimate military interest. To the contrary, her dismissal hurt morale in her unit and weakened the squadron's ability to carry out its mission, he ruled.

"There is no evidence that wounded troops care about the sexual orientation of the flight nurse or medical technician tending to their wounds," Leighton ruled.

Leighton became emotional as he recalled Witt's testimony about the support she has received from her parents since she came out to them on the eve of filing her lawsuit.

"The best thing to come out of all this tumult is still that love and support," he said.

A crowd of spectators remained quiet until the judge left the courtroom, when it erupted in cheers.

"I'm just so thrilled I have the chance to do what I wanted to do all along: that's return to my unit," Witt said.

She also said that she appreciated the judge's recognition of the many gays who continue to quietly serve in the military.

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[vh rides again]

They should take them queers out and fuck the shit outa them, teach em a lesson they'll never forget.

Give em all the cock they want, till they dont want no more.

You disagree? look what it did to your wife.

[FORD]

They should take them queers out and fuck the shit outa them, teach em a lesson they'll never forget.

Give em all the cock they want, till they dont want no more.

You disagree? look what it did to your wife.

You sure spend a lot of time thinking about "giving cock" to queers and "fucking the shit" out of them. I think we found GAyR's new partner.

[Anonymous]

They should take them queers out and fuck the shit outa them, teach em a lesson they'll never forget.

Give em all the cock they want, till they dont want no more.

You disagree? look what it did to your wife.

So, basically, what you're saying is "C'mere boy. You sure got a purdy mouth. Ye're gay, ain't ya? I'll fuck your ass an' teach you a lesson about bein' a real man. Squeal like a pig, boy."

Oh, the ironae... Zo, how many times a day do you fantasize about doing ze screwing mit homosexuals, hmm?

Seems to me there's a lot of unresolved issues there, buddy.

Cheers! :bottle:

[jhale667]

If you think this is a good idea, you may be a confused homosexual. Deal with it.

They should take them queers out and fuck the shit outa them, teach em a lesson they'll never forget.

Give em all the cock they want, till they dont want no more.

You disagree? look what it did to your wife.

OK, so let's see here ...guy claiming to be straight posts about himself or someone also presumably straight "fucking the shit" out of some dude's ass to "teach them a lesson they'll never forget" y'know by "giving them" "cock" ... trips me out when people say this shit, but they don't want you to think about the fact that it also presumes they're (sure, he just "suggested someone should", but ya know he thought about doing it before he made the "suggestion"...) going to be aroused, not in a flaccid state to do said fucking... So guess what you (or whoever acts out your fantasy) are excited about butt-slamming a dude...how are you missing the other "lesson" here, dummy?

As in by going there with the "'Deliverance' fantasy on them would be a good thing" bit, how are you NOT gay, dude???

[vh rides again]

You sure spend a lot of time thinking about "giving cock" to queers and "fucking the shit" out of them. I think we found GAyR's new partner.

not as much time as you do defending them. im sure if that was the militarys answer to queers in the military you get get right down to the recruiters office asking where to sign. have a nice day ms fonda

[jhale667]

not as much time as you do defending them. im sure if that was the militarys answer to queers in the military you get get right down to the recruiters office asking where to sign. have a nice day ms fonda

[vh rides again]

OK, so let's see here ...guy claiming to be straight posts about himself or someone also presumably straight "fucking the shit" out of some dude's ass to "teach them a lesson they'll never forget" y'know by "giving them" "cock" ... trips me out when people say this shit, but they don't want you to think about the fact that it also presumes they're (sure, he just "suggested someone should", but ya know he thought about doing it before he made the "suggestion"...) going to be aroused, not in a flaccid state to do said fucking... So guess what you (or whoever acts out your fantasy) are excited about butt-slamming a dude...how are you missing the other "lesson" here, dummy?

As in by going there with the "'Deliverance' fantasy on them would be a good thing" bit, how are you NOT gay, dude???

heres another one of the jane fonda wannabees in here defending the queers.

just because you have homosexual tendancys, doesnt mean i do. im sure you think all men think that way or should just because you do, same old shit with you, think the way i do or ill insult ya.

you are the one in here trying to talk everyone into thinking its fine to be queer, is it you who wants to be accepted?

[jhale667]

you are the one in here trying to talk everyone into thinking its fine to be queer, is it you who wants to be accepted?

You're the one wearing your homo tendencies on your sleeve dude... your "lesson" of the day...

[vh rides again]

You're the one wearing your homo tendencies on your sleeve dude... your "lesson" of the day...

what i learned today is this

you have no life. do you work? i have been looking at your post and the time you spend on here tells me you are either collecting social security or live with your parents.

nobody who spends the time on here that you do could possibly have a life.

i wont even go into whether or not you have a significant other, jesus christ if you do i pitty the poor woman. or in your case possibly a man or as you guys call em, life partner.

get a life loser, you spend way too much time in here.

fuck, what do you guys do? this is it for you guys isnt it?

same goes for you Ford, get a fucking life. 32,000 posts, my god you should be ashamed of yourself, a warm bath and a razor blade seems fitting .

if im incorrect please explain to me how you guys manage this.

pathetic fucking losers.