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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32942

    #76
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    That's just not the case. There are plenty or lazy poor people just like there are plenty of lazy rich people but the main decider in how much wealth you have is who your parents are.

    Secondly this idea if you have free healthcare for all and a welfare safety net for people means that you will have an equal spread of wealth is just plain wrong. For example in the UK the top 1000 richest people are worth $500 billion.

    Maybe unfortunately. Research shows that the happiest countries in the world are not the richest, they are the ones with the smallest difference between rich and poor. I realise you will reject that notion but you say you have travelled. Personally I wouldn't want to live somewhere like say Buenos Aires where you see kids and adults scrabbling around each night gathering up cardboard boxes from outside businesses in order to try and get a few pennies for food.
    I traveled a lot growing up and saw a lot of poverty. What I saw was the result of corrupt governments. I've seen hard working poor people and also lazy people who were poor. My mom came from a very poor family and my dad came from a very rich family. My grandparents were as far as you could get on the spectrum. My mom never had a car and they didn't have a bathroom until my dad built them one. My mom's dad was hard working but never created any jobs. My other grandfather had hundreds of people on his payroll and paid everyone equal no matter what your color was when he didn't have to. Blacks and indians usually got paid less.

    I know a doctor who goes to Guatemala every summer and volunteers his services for free. I've also seen asshole rich people as well and usually the wealth doesn't las beyond three generations before it's squandered off.

    Poor people on average don't create jobs and industry but rich people sometimes exploit them. The only thing I can see that helps is competition. The more providers the better. This is what we needed to do with our health industry instead of putting all the power in the hands of the government. We could have changed the insurance laws and allowed people to buy insurance across state lines. The premiums would go down due to competition and a more free market.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35771

      #77
      Insurance companies were taking a third off the top. That is just not sustainable with the rising cost of healthcare in the West with people living longer and the cost of new technology.

      Obviously if you are going to have it run by insurance companies then they should be in competition, but further down the line at the clinical end healthcare isn't like making cars, it's very difficult to use competition to drive efficiency.
      Last edited by Seshmeister; 11-01-2010, 12:30 AM.

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      • jhale667
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 20929

        #78
        This pretty much sums it up...

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        Originally posted by conmee
        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

        That is all.

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        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


        Originally posted by Isaac R.
        Then it's really true??

        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
        Originally posted by eddie78
        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59657

          #79
          FUCK Meg Witless and Carly FCINOarina!!

          Last edited by FORD; 11-01-2010, 12:16 PM.
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

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          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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