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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32798

    #46
    Originally posted by FORD
    Donut sniffing dogs wouldn't be too useful in law enforcement though. After a week on the police force, they would be around so many donuts they would be completely desensitized to the smell.
    We used dogs at Hanford. Busted a lot of contractors for having drugs in their vehicles. You get a dog trained to look for something, they love it. It's a game to them.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • sadaist
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jul 2004
      • 11625

      #47
      Originally posted by Nitro Express
      I say vote the best candidate regardless of party.

      I agree with that. But the problem is that candidate will go to Washington and just fall in lock, stock & barrel with his/her party leaders. So while the voting public ignored party lines, the politicians do not. Maybe we should abolish all parties and everyone is just Independent.
      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32798

        #48
        There's always been a certain level of political corruption but now it's rampant to the point where it's threatening our freedom and national security. In my opinion is the average American voter wasn't politically involved. All they cared about was quick money, looking cool, and being entertained. While Joe public was being distracted, the power brokers in Washington had a hey day and now it's come to a head to where Joe Public is feeling the pain and it's waking him up. People are now going what in the hell is going on? Two years ago they were asleep.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35212

          #49



          Menstruating woman subjected to TSA grope because panty-liner obscured her vulva on pornoscanner


          Cory Doctorow at 11:49 PM Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010
          A self-described "rule follower" went through an airport pornoscanner wearing a panty-liner (she was menstruating). Because the hygienic item obscured the screener's view of her vagina vulva, she was made to endure a humiliating fondling, "so invasive that I was left crying and dealing with memories that I thought had been dealt with years ago of prior sexual assaults."

          'These new scans are so horrible that if you are wearing something unusual (like a piece of cloth on your panties) then you will be subjected to a search where a woman repeatedly has to check your "groin" while another woman watches on (two in my case - they were training in a new girl - awesome). So please, please, tell the ladies not to wear their liners at the airport (I didn't even have an insert in). I'm a strong, confident woman; I'm an Army vet (which is why those camo liners crack me up), I work full-time and go to graduate school full-time, I have a wonderful husband, and I don't take any nonsense from anyone. I don't dramatize, and I don't exaggerate. I'm trying to give you a sense of who I am so you won't think that this is a plea for attention, or a jumping on the bandwagon about the recent TSA proposed boycott. I just don't want another woman to have to go through the "patting down" because she didn't know that her glad-rag would be a matter of national security."

          There are plenty of TSA apologists who say that objections to the TSA's invasive "pat-downs" are just whining from people don't want to go through the backscatter radiation machines -- we bring it on ourselves. But as we've seen, anything out of the ordinary -- wearing a fabric pad during menstruation, artificial limbs, medical prostheses, etc -- can send you off for a date with Doctor Jellyfinger, Junior G-Man extraordinaire.'


          By declaring war on the unexpected, the TSA has set in motion a policy that makes the lives of cancer sufferers, disabled people, people who've had major surgery, and many others who're already having a hard time even harder.
          Last edited by Seshmeister; 11-25-2010, 12:52 PM.

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32798

            #50
            If people continue to tolerate this shit, they are a bunch of pathetic wimps and deserve what they get. Bullies always prey on the weak.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49219

              #51
              One of the most retarded things of all is that people are being singled out and groped because they have one-way tickets (it happened to me about four years ago).

              So, I'm pretty sure the next terrorists are going to just fly round trip...

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #52
                While the TSA is busy with their little show, the real terrorists will just drive across the open border like the narco cartel bandits do. If the government was really concerned about national security, they would take care of our border problems but it's not about security. It's about making money selling the government equipment and controlling the public using safety as the the excuse to do it. It's about money and power. Not security.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35212

                  #53
                  Over a third of a million Americans have been killed in road accidents since 9-11.

                  Maybe the TSA people should give everyone an internal examination before they get in a car.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58824

                    #54
                    God damn you, Judas IsKerryot!!!

                    Several Lawmakers Invested in L-3 Communications, Maker of Airport Body-Scanning Machines
                    By Michael Beckel on November 23, 2010 6:05 PM


                    A handful of federal lawmakers are invested in one of the companies behind the controversial full-body scanning machines now in more than 60 U.S. airports. The individual investments are worth thousands, and in some cases tens or hundreds of thousands, of dollars.

                    According to a Center for Responsive Politics review of the most recent personal financial disclosure filings, eight members of Congress -- three Democrats and five Republicans -- owned at least $2,000 worth of stock in L-3 Communications, which is one of the two main contractors involved in the full-body scanning machines.

                    Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) disclosed possessing the most stock in L-3 Communications -- with a minimum investment of at least $500,000 and a maximum value of $1 million. The L-3 Communications stock is fully owned by his wife, Teresa Heinz, according to federal financial disclosure reports.

                    Members of Congress file annual personal financial disclosures detailing their assets and liabilities, as well as those of their spouses and dependent children. These forms also allow lawmakers to describe the value of their holdings and debts in broad ranges, so it's impossible to know exactly how much the holdings of Kerry's family, or any other lawmaker's household, are worth.

                    Republican Reps. Michael Castle (R-Del.) and Michael McCaul (R-Texas) both disclosed possessing between $16,002 and $65,000 worth of L-3 Communications stock in 2009.

                    And Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) was the member of Congress with the next most valuable holdings in L-3 Communications, worth between $15,001 and $50,000.

                    Here is a table of all eight lawmakers whose 2009 personal financial disclosure forms, which were filed in May, noted holdings in L-3 Communications, along with the minimum and maximum value of these holdings, according to the Center's research.

                    Name Value
                    Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) $500,001 to $1,000,000
                    Rep. Michael Castle (R-Del) $16,002 to $65,000
                    Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) $16,002 to $65,000
                    Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) $15,001 to $50,000
                    Rep. Ron Klein (D-Fla.) $1,001 to $15,000
                    Rep. Robert Scott (D-Va.) $1,001 to $15,000
                    Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) $2,173
                    Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-Texas) $2,086

                    The government's investment in full-body scanners has broadened since the "underwear bomber's" failed terrorism attempt last Christmas. Days later, L-3 Communications was awarded a $165 million contract for the machines, and another company, RapiScan, was also awarded a $173 million contract.

                    Both companies have seen significant jumps in their federal lobbying expenses since just a few years ago, and both are employing officials with well-heeled government connections, as OpenSecrets Blog previously reported.

                    For instance, RapiScan utilizes the services of Michael Chertoff, the secretary of Homeland Security under Republican President George W. Bush. And former Republican Sen. Alfonse D'Amato (R-N.Y.) and Linda Daschle, the wife of former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), are both actively lobbying for L-3 Communications.



                    Fuck you Judas. You too, Daschle. And the other two as well. Never even heard of either one, but odds are they're worthless DLC'ers since neither Florida or Virginia seems capable of electing actual Democrats. I expect this kind of bullshit from Republicans. Not from those who claim to be on the side of the American people.
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58824

                      #55
                      Police State USA: TSA Gestapo Empire

                      By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

                      Global Research, November 23, 2010

                      It doesn’t take a bureaucrat long to create an empire. John Pistole, the FBI agent who took over the Transportation Security Administration on July 1 told USA Today 16 days later that protecting trains and subways from terrorist attacks will be as high a priority for him as air travel.

                      It is difficult to imagine New Yorkers being porno-screened and sexually groped on crowed subway platforms or showing up an hour or two in advance for clearance for a 15 minute subway ride, but once bureaucrats get the bit in their teeth they take absurdity to its logical conclusion. Buses will be next, although it is even more difficult to imagine open air bus stops turned into security zones with screeners and gropers inspecting passengers before they board.

                      Will taxi passengers be next? In those Muslim lands whose citizens the US government has been slaughtering for years, favorite weapons for retaliating against the Americans are car and truck bombs. How long before Pistole announces that the TSA Gestapo is setting up roadblocks on city streets, highways and interstates to check cars for bombs? That 15 minute trip to the grocery store then becomes an all day affair.

                      Indeed, it has already begun. Last September agents from Homeland Security, TSA, and the US Department of Transportation, assisted by the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office, conducted a counter-terrorism operation on busy Interstate 20 just west of Atlanta, Georgia. Designated VIPER (Visible Inter-mobile Prevention and Response), the operation required all trucks to stop to be screened for bombs. Federal agents used dogs, screening devices, and a large drive-through bomb detection machine. Imagine what the delays did to delivery schedules and truckers’ bottom lines.

                      There are also news reports of federal trucks equipped with backscatter X-ray devices that secretly scan cars and pedestrians.

                      With such expensive counter-terrorism activities, both in terms of the hard-pressed taxpayers’ money and civil liberties, one would think that bombs were going off all over America. But, of course, they aren’t. There has not been a successful terrorist act since 9/11, and thousands of independent experts doubt the government’s explanation of that event.

                      Subsequent domestic terrorist events have turned out to be FBI sting operations in which FBI agents organize not-so-bright disaffected members of society and lead them into displaying interest in participating in a terrorist act. Once the FBI agent, pretending to be a terrorist, succeeds in prompting all the right words to be said and captured on his hidden recorder, the “terrorists” are arrested and the “plot” exposed.

                      The very fact that the FBI has to orchestrate fake terrorism proves the absence of real terrorists.

                      If Americans were more thoughtful and less gullible, they might wonder why all the emphasis on transportation when there are so many soft targets. Shopping centers, for example. If there were enough terrorists in America to justify the existence of Homeland Security, bombs would be going off round the clock in shopping malls in every state. The effect would be far more terrifying than blowing up an airliner.

                      Indeed, if terrorists want to attack air travelers, they never need to board an airplane.

                      All they need to do is to join the throngs of passengers waiting to go through the TSA scanners and set off their bombs. The TSA has conveniently assembled the targets.

                      The final proof that there are no terrorists is that not a single neoconservative or government official responsible for the Bush regime’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the Obama regime’s slaughters of Pakistanis, Yemenis, and Somalians has been assassinated. None of these Americans who are responsible for lies, deceptions, and invasions that have destroyed the lives of countless numbers of Muslims have any security protection. If Muslims were capable of pulling off 9/11, they are certainly capable of assassinating Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Libby, Condi Rice, Kristol, Bolton, Goldberg, and scores of others during the same hour of the same day.

                      I am not advocating that terrorists assassinate anyone. I am just making the point that if the US was as overrun with terrorists as empire-building bureaucrats pretend, we would definitely be experiencing dramatic terrorist acts. The argument is not believable that a government that was incapable of preventing 9/11 is so all-knowing that it can prevent assassination of unprotected neocons and shopping malls from being bombed.

                      If Al Qaeda was anything like the organization that the US government claims, it would not be focused on trivial targets such as passenger airliners. The organization, if it exists, would be focused on its real enemies. Try to imagine the propaganda value of terrorists wiping out the neoconservatives in one fell swoop, followed by an announcement that every member of the federal government down to the lowest GS, every member of the House and Senate, and every governor was next in line to be bumped off.

                      This would be real terrorism instead of the make-belief stuff associated with shoe bombs that don’t work, underwear bombs that independent experts say could not work, and bottled water and shampoo bombs that experts say cannot possibly be put together in airliner lavatories.

                      Think about it. Would a terror organization capable of outwitting all 16 US intelligence agencies, all intelligence agencies of US allies including Israel’s Mossad, the National Security Council, NORAD, air traffic control, the Pentagon, and airport security four times in one hour put its unrivaled prestige at risk with improbable shoe bombs, shampoo bombs, and underwear bombs?

                      After success in destroying the World Trade Center and blowing up part of the Pentagon, it is an extraordinary comedown to go after a mere airliner. Would a person who gains fame by knocking out the world heavyweight boxing champion make himself a laughing stock by taking lunch money from school boys?

                      TSA is a far greater threat to Americans than are terrorists. Pistole has given the finger to US senators and representatives, state legislators, and the traveling public who have expressed their views that virtual strip searches and sexual molestation are too high a price to pay for “security.” Indeed, the TSA with its Gestapo attitude and methods, is succeeding in making Americans more terrified of the TSA than they are of terrorists.

                      Make up your own mind. What terrifies you the most. Terrorists, who in all likelihood you will never encounter in your lifetime, or the TSA that you will encounter every time you fly and soon, according to Pistole, every time you take a train, a subway, or drive in a car or truck?

                      Before making up your mind, consider this report from antiwar.com on November 19: “TSA officials say that anyone refusing both the full body scanners and the enhanced pat down procedures will be taken into custody. Once there the detainees will not only be barred from flying, but will be held indefinitely as suspected terrorists . . . One sheriff’s office said they were already preparing to handle a large number of detainees and plan to treat them as terror suspects.”

                      Who is cowing Americans into submission, terrorists or the TSA Gestapo?

                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #56
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Police State USA: TSA Gestapo Empire

                        By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

                        Global Research, November 23, 2010
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                        FORD, that's not a half-bad op-ed you posted. I agree with about 95% of it.
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #57
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          TSA is a far greater threat to Americans than are terrorists.

                          Make up your own mind. What terrifies you the most. Terrorists, who in all likelihood you will never encounter in your lifetime, or the TSA that you will encounter every time you fly and soon, according to Pistole, every time you take a train, a subway, or drive in a car or truck?

                          Before making up your mind, consider this report from antiwar.com on November 19: TSA officials say that anyone refusing both the full body scanners and the enhanced pat down procedures will be taken into custody. Once there the detainees will not only be barred from flying, but will be held indefinitely as suspected terrorists . . .

                          Who is cowing Americans into submission, terrorists or the TSA Gestapo?
                          I'll take my chances with terrorism, thankyaverymuch...


                          Excellent excellent article!


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                          • sadaist
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11625

                            #58
                            Everyone in the Obama Administration is fucking loony. It's ok to photograph & run your hands on peoples genitals & breasts...but AZ police aren't allowed to ask for some beaners ID card.
                            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35212

                              #59
                              The article is almost correct except that it makes the faulty logical leap that because there have been no Al-Qaeda attacks in the US since 9-11 then 9-11 wasn't an attack by Al-Qaeda.

                              As usual people confuse the loose Al-Qaeda idea with a James Bond villain style organisation working out of a hollowed out volcano. It's been 9 years can we move on from that?

                              In case no one noticed 9-11 was a suicide attack...

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35212

                                #60
                                After a bit more reading it's a real stopped clock being correct twice a day article because the guy that wrote it is an idiot supporter of complete fucking idiots.

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