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  • Carloscda
    Foot Soldier
    • Jan 2009
    • 666

    Unemployment Extension Defeated In House

    WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives on Thursday voted down a measure that would have reauthorized extended unemployment insurance for another three months, leaving no clear path forward to prevent the benefits from lapsing as scheduled on Nov. 30.

    Without a reauthorization, the Labor Department estimates that two million long-term unemployed will prematurely stop receiving benefits before the end of the year.

    "I think it's a sad moment," said Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) after the vote. "It appalls me that the Republicans keep pitching and pitching and pitching the tax cuts for the rich and won't join in a bill to help people keep their homes and not have to live in their cars."

    The bill was brought to the floor under a "suspension of the rules," meaning it required approval from two-thirds of the House. It failed 258 to 154, with mostly Democratic support. Twenty-one Republicans voted in favor and 11 Democrats voted nay.

    Even if it had passed the House, it's unclear how it would get through the Senate, where Democrats will need at least three Republicans to switch sides. No GOP moderates have signaled a willingness to support an unemployment reauthorization that isn't "paid for" with spending cuts -- something Democrats have refused to do all year. In most recessions, the cost of federally-funded jobless aid is usually paid for with deficit spending.

    It's likely there will be another effort in Congress to reauthorize the benefits before the Christmas break, though lawmakers will be off next week for Thanksgiving.

    "My understanding is the Senate is trying figure out what vehicle they can add it to and how they can include and we'll see, but I don't think we should be going home over the holidays when people are losing their unemployment benefits, and especially when the struggle seems to be how you can give more money to rich people," Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Education and Labor committee, told HuffPost.
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    Democrats may attempt to attach a reauthorization of the extended benefits to a broader bill, such as a measure reauthorizing some of the Bush-era tax cuts set to expire at the end of the year.

    Advocates for the unemployed want a bill that preserves existing benefits for the entirety of 2011.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Thursday said Congress ought to reauthorize the benefits before its Christmas break.

    "When we discuss how to get our economy moving again, there isn't an economist in the country who won't tell you that ensuring [that] those who lost their jobs have the ability to pay their rent, support their families, isn't in and of itself a great boost to the economy," he said.
    I do not think that we want to leave here having fought for tax cuts for millionaires and against... unemployment insurance for those who lost their jobs."

    Federally-funded extended benefits, which give the unemployed up to 73 weeks of benefits once they exhaust 26 weeks of state benefits, have needed several reauthorizations in the past year, and Congress has let them lapse three times. The shorter lapses didn't cause too much of an interruption in benefits, but over the summer, as Senate Republicans filibustered a reauthorization for 50 days, 2.5 million people stopped receiving checks for several weeks.

    "Sadly, Congress is once again heading out of town just as the federal unemployment insurance programs are slated to expire, this time right as the holiday season begins," said Christine Owens, director of the National Employment Law Project, in a statement. "It is critical that a full-year renewal of the program moves to the top of the agenda when Congress returns on November 29th, to minimize the hardship and disruption to families and the economy that will result from the November 30th cut-off."
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #2

    "When we discuss how to get our economy moving again, there isn't an economist in the country who won't tell you that ensuring [that] those who lost their jobs have the ability to pay their rent, support their families, isn't in and of itself a great boost to the economy," he said.
    I do not think that we want to leave here having fought for tax cuts for millionaires and against... unemployment insurance for those who lost their jobs."


    Right! This is just the beginning of basic anti-middle class douchebaggery the GOP cocksniff whores will inflict on America as the continue to get bribed by their corporate benefactors...

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59651

      #3
      If this is not corrected, AND the tax "cuts" for tax dodging billionaires are allowed to stand, AND the Catfood Commission begins to hack up Social Security, things are about to get very ugly in this country.

      My preferred solution? 18th century French style. Starting with every last piece of shit in the Goldman Sachs building.

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      • Va Beach VH Fan
        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
        • Dec 2003
        • 17913

        #4
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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35755

          #5
          If the missus finds out you can spend $60k on a handbag I'm fucked...

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          • Carloscda
            Foot Soldier
            • Jan 2009
            • 666

            #6
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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32942

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              If this is not corrected, AND the tax "cuts" for tax dodging billionaires are allowed to stand, AND the Catfood Commission begins to hack up Social Security, things are about to get very ugly in this country.

              My preferred solution? 18th century French style. Starting with every last piece of shit in the Goldman Sachs building.

              It's too good for them Ford. I say kill them slow.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Carloscda
                Foot Soldier
                • Jan 2009
                • 666

                #8
                Hmm they want the economy to recover, merchants want to be in the black with sales etc
                Won't be this yr!!

                Right, it's all good to add to the deficit giving tax breaks to the rich but those who actually bust their ass 24/7 gets the short end of the sick once again!!

                This idiot rep was on MSNBC earlier saying how the rich need the tax breaks because they own the small businesses & they'll be they one's hiring people. Really?!

                So why hasn't it happened already?!

                Once again those repubs pull the wool over the eyes of the American people and they fall for it!

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                • Va Beach VH Fan
                  ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 17913

                  #9
                  But that's the point, the term "small business" is being used as a scam in itself....

                  Watch....

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #10
                    The Democrats actually do the same thing. When big business like McDonald's complains about the increased costs of Obamacare (which is just another form of tax), they get an exemption. So both sides are dirty.

                    What we need to do is get rid of the ear marks in the tax cod. The richest people in the US pay around an 18% tax rate which is lower than the middle class. The poor don't pay any taxes, the middle class gets killed and the rich qualify for the ear marks.

                    Also, don't want to pay any tax? Become a US Congressman like Rangle or a cabinet member like Timothy Gietner.

                    Both sides are dirty here and it's not just a Republican thing.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #11
                      Most small business owners aren't rich but they create most the jobs. We need productive jobs and people need to learn to work again. I quit the corporate world in the late 1990's because of the corruption and how poorly employees were treated to working for myself. It's more responsibility and you are on your own but I've done well. Trust me, neither the Republicans or Democrats in the the Federal government are on the side of small business. Cap and Trade would blow my overhead up so high I would have to try and sell my properties because the tenants wouldn't be able to afford the rent. Either some fat cat would buy them or they would just sit there empty and abandoned. Oh yes, and Obama care will be nice for small business as soon as it kicks in all the way. The fat cats will get exemptions. So small business is in the cross hairs because politicians and big corporations hate small business and indapendant wealth earners because they can get by without either. Monsanto hates people who can produce their own food. The big banks hate small local solvent banks who loan to small farmers.

                      This is the real deal.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • hambon4lif
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2810

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        things are about to get very ugly in this country.
                        Alot sooner than even I expected. On December 1st, over 4 million people will be tossed into the gutter and left for dead. Some will curl up and die, and those with stronger survival instincts......well, let's just say they will go out and take whatever they have to in order to live...by any means necessary.

                        Then these clueless fucks will scratch their heads wondering why the crime rate has shot through the motherfucking roof.

                        This is exactly what Obama was trying to prevent, and it's also what people have been warned would happen.

                        Oh, it's going to be a Merry bloody Christmas!!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32942

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hambon4lif
                          Alot sooner than even I expected. On December 1st, over 4 million people will be tossed into the gutter and left for dead. Some will curl up and die, and those with stronger survival instincts......well, let's just say they will go out and take whatever they have to in order to live...by any means necessary.

                          Then these clueless fucks will scratch their heads wondering why the crime rate has shot through the motherfucking roof.

                          This is exactly what Obama was trying to prevent, and it's also what people have been warned would happen.

                          Oh, it's going to be a Merry bloody Christmas!!
                          The politicians won't and can't get us out of this mess. The cowards will hunker but the people who think for themselves, work hard, and work with others will pull out of it. It's social darwinism in action and yes it's brutal.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #14
                            People just need to stop looking to politicians for handouts, tell them to fuck off, and fix things themselves and if they get in your way, give them a right straight to the face.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • hambon4lif
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2810

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nitro Express
                              People just need to stop looking to politicians for handouts, tell them to fuck off, and fix things themselves and if they get in your way, give them a right straight to the face.
                              That's more or less what I'm trying to say. Someone with children to feed and no means doesn't really give a fuck that sticking a gun in your face is illegal or not. They're in a different mindset.

                              It's also been reported that 1 in 5 people have been suffering untreated mental illness' as a result of the unemployment rate. Down on your luck & out of your mind is a dangerous mix (see Gar), and people like Alex Jones will spend the rest of their careers saying "I told you so".

                              Ammo, bitches! Buy it cheap and stack it deep!

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